Taking a Duce (A Benito Mussolini SI)

[CelestialNorth]

I love the writing!

I hate these policies, I hate the institutions he's building, I hate the rivers of blood flowing unmourned, it goes against everything I believe in, I hate it all.

But I'm engrossed. I wait eagerly for every chapter. Excellent storytelling. Bravo!

 

[wetwipefatass]

HAIL ROMANIA

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Made me laugh.

the story just goes from strength to strength

 

[Wolffils]

Vivat Imperium!

"Jim Crow is the Devils Law." Never before have I heard such accurate words.

 

[Tobirama_Senju]

As a black dude this genuinely makes me happy

 

[Chaoswind]

Dewey is going to get murdered isn't it?

Anyways awesome chapter

 

[Wolffils]

Absolutely amazing writing here .

 

[ATP]

I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY OF THIS. This little rhetorical and ideological vomit was the result of me reading hours of fascist, integralist, traditionalist and even syndicalist writings. Even sprinkled some Jreg in there.

If you genuinely base your political ideology on this then comrade, go outside

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But you still created system more logical then Imperial Truth of Emprah from WH40.Or communism from real life.You did well.
But - Italy still do not have economy and army to win like that.....

 

[Thiccc Shaedy]

As a black dude, this genuinely makes me happy

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Right?! I've always been of the opinion that African Americans back then shoulda fought tooth and nail for their rights instead of enduring all that abuse. Maybe they woulda been taking more seriously if a few thousand white women and children hung from the trees every time a black American was lynched. Since they liked to murder black people to protect their precious little white girls, then maybe they (black folks) shoulda REALLY given them a reason to worry about them melanin-deficient hoes. Can't have black women being the only ones getting gang raped in these streets, am I right?

Oh, and all them judges, police officers and politicians that endorsed that shit? Yeah, they shoulda gotten their homes and workplaces bombed to the ground. Honestly, my black American and Latino (cos I ain't forget about them racist clowns across the border) cousins shoulda just turned the Western Hemisphere into a warzone to get their reparations. Too, bad it didn't go that way.

 

[Chaoswind]

Right?! I've always been of the opinion that African Americans back then shoulda fought tooth and nail for their rights instead of enduring all that abuse. Maybe they woulda been taking more seriously if a few thousand white women and children hung from the trees every time a black American was lynched. Since they liked to murder black people to protect their precious little white girls, then maybe they (black folks) shoulda REALLY given them a reason to worry about them melanin-deficient hoes. Can't have black women being the only ones getting gang raped in these streets, am I right?

Oh, and all them judges, police officers and politicians that endorsed that shit? Yeah, they shoulda gotten their homes and workplaces bombed to the ground. Honestly, my black American and Latino (cos I ain't forget about them racist clowns across the border) cousins shoulda just turned the Western Hemisphere into a warzone to get their reparations. Too, bad it didn't go that way.

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Hard disagree.

They should have fire bombed the institutions, police and armed themselves to the teeth, but explicitly targeting women and children is a fast way to lose.

 

[Alenco98]

Hard disagree.

They should have fire bombed the institutions, police and armed themselves to the teeth, but explicitly targeting women and children is a fast way to lose.

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This man knows urban guerrilla warfare

 

[Thiccc Shaedy]

Hard disagree.

They should have fire bombed the institutions, police and armed themselves to the teeth, but explicitly targeting women and children is a fast way to lose.

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I know. I'm just being petty. Also... Due to my narcissism, my first thought whenever someone pisses me off is to hit 'em where it really hurts, which is usually either their family or their livelihoods. Also, one of the main reason why black men were lynched is cos white women'd falsely accuse them of sexual assault or harassment, like in the case case of Emit Till, so it's not like them heffas were innocent either.

But, yeah, I defo agree with you on that whole bombing their institutions thing. Like, if it were me, and I got denied access to all the services that my taxes paid for? Yeah, no, if I can't have it then no one else can. Honestly, with how psycho I can get, the only reason why I haven't committed crimes against humanity is cos I live in a social democracy that treats me right. Lord knows that if I were living back home in Somalia I'd have probably been a terrorist or serial killer by now cos that place is basically the Wild West but with more melanin.

 

[Alenco98]

I know. I'm just being petty. Also... Due to my narcissism, my first thought whenever someone pisses me off is to hit 'em where it really hurts, which is usually either their family or their livelihoods. Also, one of the main reason why black men were lynched is cos white women'd falsely accuse them of sexual assault or harassment, like in the case case of Emit Till, so it's not like them heffas were innocent either.

But, yeah, I defo agree with you on that whole bombing their institutions thing. Like, if it were me, and I got denied access to all the services that my taxes paid for? Yeah, no, if I can't have it then no one else can. Honestly, with how psycho I can get, the only reason why I haven't committed crimes against humanity is cos I live in a social democracy that treats me right. Lord knows that if I were living back home in Somalia I'd have probably been a terrorist or serial killer by now cos that place is basically the Wild West but with more melanin.

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Speaking of Somalia, I made Siad Barre (yes that one) a guerrilla working under Skorensky to set Africa on fire to spread African liberation.

He will be VERY prominent in future Africa chapters. I want your take on it.

 

[Thiccc Shaedy]

Speaking of Somalia, I made Siad Barre (yes, that one) a guerrilla working under Skorensky to set Africa on fire to spread African liberation.

He will be VERY prominent in future Africa chapters. I want your take on it.

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Yeah. I noticed. I hope you do my uncle Siyaad justice, cos that man is a legend for my people! Honestly, our country has never been the same without him. Like, we miss him so much that I wish I could learn necromancy so I can bring him back, cos them clowns that are running my "country" are a legit embarrassment, and we need him to fix the mess that absence has created.

 

[AAAustinYu]

Well......
Aside from that, will the Israel of this timeline be as technologically innovative as OTL Israel? They did have some good tech

 

[ATP]

Stern was bandit and terrorist,BUT- not soldier.He could murder civilians or blown up hotels,but fighting real soldiers? sorry,but no.
And italian mafia do not had catholic Punisher.Only average assasins.
Dirlewenger was german bandit good only for fighting civilians,not real soldiers.

But - still funny to read!

 

[Pef]

The critique of communism was pretty well done. Missed the crucial point, but then most Western people that never lived under communism do. The means of production is people. People do the work. So, when you "seize the means of production" what do you seize?

America during WW2, probably less well done, colored by woke propaganda and college education.

MC Benito, quite a failure, due to excessive explanations of reasoning, personal quirks and then apologizing for his speeches.
It's a book, if you can write, then you don't apologize. That's why fans exist, let them apologize for you.
Still, I listened to a few nice synth pop songs I never knew about, so that was cool. Should link said songs in each chapter, make them a theme, like Star Wars.

Anne Frank was beautiful, if reductive. Perhaps read her diary and copy some passages to let readers experience the actual truth.

The British...described in a far too competent manner. Yes, they eventually became good by applying science to military calculus, but it took time and enormous loses for that. The WW1 mentality and the bomber supremacy doctrine did more damage than good.

Stalin and his amazing defense vs Barbarossa was far too much. OTL, Stalin did know about the German plans too, but his answer was to mass troops, tanks and planes near the border. Which failed spectacularly.
The Yalta treaty was...silly. As if the Lend-lease and the Arctic convoys never happened. Not to mention the Iran line, which transported 70% of all American aid.

The sharing of nuclear secrets...kinda nuts. Exposing the Soviet spies inside the Manhattan Project would pay more dividends.
Same with the spy ring in England.

Then again, many, many writers who post on Alt history are Stalin fans, for some reason. Daddy issues, I think.

 

[ATP]

The critique of communism was pretty well done. Missed the crucial point, but then most Western people that never lived under communism do. The means of production is people. People do the work. So, when you "seize the means of production" what do you seize?

America during WW2, probably less well done, colored by woke propaganda and college education.

MC Benito, quite a failure, due to excessive explanations of reasoning, personal quirks and then apologizing for his speeches.
It's a book, if you can write, then you don't apologize. That's why fans exist, let them apologize for you.
Still, I listened to a few nice synth pop songs I never knew about, so that was cool. Should link said songs in each chapter, make them a theme, like Star Wars.

Anne Frank was beautiful, if reductive. Perhaps read her diary and copy some passages to let readers experience the actual truth.

The British...described in a far too competent manner. Yes, they eventually became good by applying science to military calculus, but it took time and enormous loses for that. The WW1 mentality and the bomber supremacy doctrine did more damage than good.

Stalin and his amazing defense vs Barbarossa was far too much. OTL, Stalin did know about the German plans too, but his answer was to mass troops, tanks and planes near the border. Which failed spectacularly.
The Yalta treaty was...silly. As if the Lend-lease and the Arctic convoys never happened. Not to mention the Iran line, which transported 70% of all American aid.

The sharing of nuclear secrets...kinda nuts. Exposing the Soviet spies inside the Manhattan Project would pay more dividends.
Same with the spy ring in England.

Then again, many, many writers who post on Alt history are Stalin fans, for some reason. Daddy issues, I think.

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Mostly agree,with few exceptions:
1.Sralin massed troops on border,becouse he plan to attack germans.And lost thanks to that - forces prepared to attack could not defend itselfs.
Not mention - his doctrine was "attack" - soldiers do not even had shovels to made trenches.They simply do not knew how to defend.

2.Yalta was stupidity - USA gave us for free to sralin,when in politics you sell your dear allies,not gave them for free.But -FDR was dying and Wallace was commie,as well as many democrats,so we could explain it by that.

3.Exposing soviet spies - yes,he should do that,not share anytching.


Main problems of story
1.Italy from 1939 do not have enough dakka to fight like that
2.USA lead by FDR did what soviets wonted,so it is impossible yo play them against each other.

 

[ATP]

Very good plan.They forget two thing - soviets arleady infiltrated USA,and have their own plans.Not only politicians and bussiness - they send about 1000 agents to catholics seminars to become priests.
And Wall Street supported soviets for their own reasons - and practically ruled USA,no matter who was president.

 

[Chaoswind]

In the years to come, Breaker of Chains would be studied as a landmark in the evolution of political cinema—one that refused to shy away from difficult truths, even when those truths provoked fear, hatred, and violence.

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Could have added the film she made about escape from the middle kingdom, you already wrote a minor synopsis about it and its absence from this modern wikipedia article is glaring.

That is something I have noticed with the flash forwards, some details are conspicuous in their absence.

 

[Alenco98]

Could have added the film she made about escape from the middle kingdom, you already wrote a minor synopsis about it and its absence from this modern wikipedia article is glaring.

That is something I have noticed with the flash forwards, some details are conspicuous in their absence.

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There's a reason I stopped at 1950

A part 2 will come later, it will show the full cultural and cinematic revolution in Italy

 

[Platypus_98]

In "Segregate This!!!!" Two minor mistakes: "An excerpt from Maya Angelou's 1977 book: We just wanted to be free"

and then a little further in:

"In what would become his final interview—given from his deathbed in 1983 and broadcast live—he said this:"

This whole chapter is from the POV of an in universe book chapter, yes? So she couldn't have possible known about the 1983 interview just yet, but maybe you can edit it to be like an in universe reprinted edition that has minor updates or something to excuse the addition?

 

[ATP]

Caliphate - bad idea.Muslims made it to conqer world known to them,not become pals woth Rome.
But - possible.Mussolini so far beat only turks,and both arabs and iranians hate them.

 

[Alenco98]

In "Segregate This!!!!" Two minor mistakes: "An excerpt from Maya Angelou's 1977 book: We just wanted to be free"

and then a little further in:

"In what would become his final interview—given from his deathbed in 1983 and broadcast live—he said this:"

This whole chapter is from the POV of an in universe book chapter, yes? So she couldn't have possible known about the 1983 interview just yet, but maybe you can edit it to be like an in universe reprinted edition that has minor updates or something to excuse the addition?

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Fixed

It's 1987 now

 

[wetwipefatass]

NGL I am invested in the Anne Frank story

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A friend asked me if i had been reading anything recently. i told him i was reading an alt-hist drama novel that has an insane protagonist. when he asked for further details, i said "terrorist Anne Frank"

there's a good chance you'll be getting a new reader soon

 

[ATP]

A bombs for everybody? now i undarstandt.Dude is Fallout fan,and decide to made it better !

 

[Pef]

The Rouge Prince, a sweeping religious and political TV series

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I swear, that word makes my eye bleed. Rouge? Fuck sakes. That means lipstick.
It's Rogue. Even the novel whence you copied the title of your fake movie is called the same Rogue Prince

https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/The_Rogue_Prince

 

[CelestialNorth]

Honestly, thanks for the happy ending. It felt almost cathartic.

 

[KadinaruDess]

Buhjeesus. Keep up the good work magic man. You have programmed us conditioned to read the Duce's life as you have to writing it.

But really, most rewrites take forever last time I heard, enough time for the conditioning to wear off (or more likely, be dedicated to somewhere else). Sure, I remember seeing the cracks of City Pop appear and surprised that it wasn't the latest act yet where I expected most diktatur going insane are, but this is a wordy althist story.

I wonder what the reaction of most people would be seeing the casual gym pics of the emperor. Critics would claim staged and curated footage for the cult of personality, Romeboos would praise the hard work, Analysts would see the perfectionist ordermania in action... But what about the gymbros and future memelords that made the chad bear-mounted Putin?

 

[Alenco98]

Buhjeesus. Keep up the good work magic man. You have programmed us conditioned to read the Duce's life as you have to writing it.

But really, most rewrites take forever last time I heard, enough time for the conditioning to wear off (or more likely, be dedicated to somewhere else). Sure, I remember seeing the cracks of City Pop appear and surprised that it wasn't the latest act yet where I expected most diktatur going insane are, but this is a wordy althist story.

I wonder what the reaction of most people would be seeing the casual gym pics of the emperor. Critics would claim staged and curated footage for the cult of personality, Romeboos would praise the hard work, Analysts would see the perfectionist ordermania in action... But what about the gymbros and future memelords that made the chad bear-mounted Putin?

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I'm like 75-80 percent done

3-4 more chapters

Writing is easy, the hard part will be reuploading the first 25 ish chapters

 

[ATP]

I'm like 75-80 percent done

3-4 more chapters

Writing is easy, the hard part will be reuploading the first 25 ish chapters

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Good,but since you made him overpowered,he should take over entire Earth and go to space before he die.There is no reasons for keeping soviets and USA in world when he exist and could made armies out of thin air.Well,turn obsolate italian army from 1939 into force capable of destroing germans in 1942.