Exalted 3E Discussion

Eh, that's a fairly 'depends on your taste' issue. I like my Daiklaves just cool swords and ornamented with diamonds created by crushing several civilizations(and if you have really good eyes you can see how it was crushed. graphically!)

 

This is the best book in the Exalted line in a long time. Sorcerer with Talion, The Quincunx, and a Collar of Dutiful Submission hooooooo~

 

It can be both, honestly. A look into the mind of it's creator, who wanted to control those mightier than them with magic...

Or a gift to a lover who was really into submission and choke play (I would totally love an RP based around that actually). Though as a tool to dominate for drama, I would say a collar is a bit too on the nose I'd probably make it a ring or a suit of armor or something. A plausible gift to a rival that enslaves them, and the PCs have a reluctant miniboss to free!

 

Certainly the best in the last fifteen months.

 

Well I mean...there is literally not a single 2E book that rises to this level of quality, in prose or mechanics, or has as many interesting little tidbits. I think Dragonblooded: The Outcaste, or Exalted: The Dragonblooded, is comparable? 3e has the advantage on mechanics, admittedly, since it has a system that isn't swiss cheese. Or, rather, 'paper mache made out of glass', for my preferred metaphor.

 

Have you ever read Compass: Autochthonia?

E is no better, simply less explored.

 

Yeaaaaah no. I've played both extensively. E is functional. 2e is not. The sheer number of gentleman's agreements and houserules required for 2e to not collapse in on itself was staggering. E we can just run out the box. The issues it has are annoying at worst, not game shattering

1e is best in fluff so far. I adore the DB books.

 

Craft. Also, there's a prolonged discussion on the Initiative mechanic in this thread, also covering the new concept of rerolling part of a dice pool based on conditions that require the dice pool to be counted first. Indefinitely.

There are some improvements, but they're weighed down by new problems. Remember, by the way, that this is the second book. Only one type of Exaltation has so far been given actual charms, and creation has a minimum of five types of Exalted. That's four more books to break the system.

Ignoring them, however, E core is not a well-designed system. Some assembly is required.

Edit: Almost forgot. Rules as written, Withering attacks can't actually hit anything ever, regardless of stats.

 

Really? Please do tell.

 

No step for declaring target. No target = No chance to hit.

Certainly, this is an easy fix. It is still a fix, however.

 

Is it one worth complaining about, though? I mean, this strikes me as nitpicking. If someone declares an attack, they generally declare the target in the same sentence.

 

It's one of several issues in the core combat system, one that highlights the gaps E has so far. This one is quite visible: There will be others less so.

Further, it's the least of the issues raised in that post.

Firstly, that isn't how it's worked in my experience. Plenty of "I attack." *Rolls* / "Attack who, again?"

Regardless, however, declaring a target isn't part of the attack steps. Doing so, therefore, is a house rule or player consideration.

 

You were playing with idiots. My condolences.

Still don't think this is an issue worth noting, but I can see why you think otherwise.

 

If you can find a group without idiots, then I'll call you lucky.

I add it mostly to point out that the system clearly wasn't competently proof-read. It's not an issue any group is likely to have problems with, aside from someone "smart" rolling and then applying the attack to any target they think they can hit, but it's a section that renders combat fundamentally broken without a fix.

 

Things fall through the gaps.

 

It's literally Sun Wukong's headband.

 

And this is supposed to stop the Exalted from using it for kinky stuff?

 

Pretty sure that didn’t even stop Sun Wukong from using it for kinky stuff.

 

It's a very different approach that gives an interesting new option, but I can see how it could be very frustrating for many. You'd really have to keep around a very solid backup option. OTOH, you should really have that anyway, and it lets you screw up other people's weapons.

 

Very interesting tidbit of lore from the last book: apparently, in 3E, Creation has an anima, shaped by the Essence expenditures of the gods. Was there anything to that effect in previous books? It also seems to retcon starmetal as being from dead gods - it is just the pooling of the anima on the celestial vault...

 

Nope. This is entirely new.

 

Yeah, I remember it being mentioned that they wanted to change Starmetal from being made out of dead gods to minimize overlap with soulsteel and to stop encouraging Sidereals to arrange for gods to executed on trumped up charges because they wanted a new pair of boots.

 

But that was the source of half the political intrigue of playing one!

 

And now the Sidereal Exalted should always be better armed than the Lunar and Solar Exalted, and on par with any given Terrestrial.

Also, as mentioned, an aspect of their splat-specific conflict has been weakened.

 

Leaving aside that Sids had that benefit already, if anything the way Starmetal is formed now should mean they have less than before given that Starmetal is now naturally created when Essence tangles up in the constellations and then falls to the earth, unlike before where the two fold issue was "Who can I get executed and can I reach the starmetal before someone else does?"