With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

You know... At this point I kind of hope Paul doesn't find the dial.

Because the idea that out of everything he has done it's a tiny inanimate object that ends up stymieing him is hilarious.

 

Artifacts from beyond time are pretty damaging to squishy humans like us. This is a good story mang.

 

Holy fuck does this Master guy sound nasty.

Anyway, so the dials give you the tools you need, it's not just random powers. That's interesting.

 

Wait, did that incinerator thing actually happen in the comics? Seems a bit extreme for the 60s.

 

The orderly walks back inside what appears to be a glass-fronted...


Boy... Mr Reed is all kinds of effed up because of the Dial, isn't he. Robin might be right, it's not worth using, merely keeping out of the hands of those who would abuse it...

 

Hamill: "It's not hilarious from where I'm standing!"

 

That's just because all the plus's haven't really had time to set in yet.

 

So what did Mr Hamill want to do if it always gives an ability useful in a given situation?
Edit: also, does anyone know why Victoria Grant is crazy?

 

Zoat might be going for the "transformations are manifestations of subconscious desires" explanation that Superboy and the Ravers went with.

In which case they'd be helpful powers because they're ultimately the powers you want.

The Ravers for example didn't take it as a good sign when Hero turned into the healing super Caduceus the Healer because they saw that as "Oh, Hero thinks we're going to get our asses kicked, nice vote of confidence man, really confidence building."

 

Maybe it responds to the user's will: if you focus on the need for something (say, a way to beat a villain,) the Dial will pick up on it and provide a suitable form.
Just randomly fiddling with the thing? Well, that's how you get shenanigans like gender-swapping or evil twins...

 

To be fair Robbie needed to be in two places at the same time, so he got what he wanted.

It's just that "evil biologist" was a free gift with purchase.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Plus, it's probably not exactly what you want, it just gets something kinda close. If it wasn't, half the time you'd probably just dial Superman or someone else similarly flying-brick-y.

 

Yeah... Instead you get super-humans drawn from the fever dream logic of 90's adventure game puzzle designers.
I mean, if you used the Dial to produce a super-human capable of extinguishing a house fire, you're more likely to get Mister Snowcone, dispenser of shaved ice treats, than Tidal Tom, king of the ocean waves.
Sure, they can both control water, but the former is gonna take some clever tricks to be useful

 

Holy shit!

 

I don’t know... depending on where the house is a giant snow machine dropping snowballs on a house or a fire hose shooting syrup/ice would be a lot more useful than controlling water ... especially if it’s only sea/salt water. You don’t get an aqua man is useless situation if your water source is actually a car.
Also: crazy idea that wouldn’t be out of place in a bad 90’s adventure game: can aqua man talk to birds if he thinks of them as “air fish”?

 

I would suggest that fixing Reed, probably via telepathy and ring, is something that should be prioritized to insure no one breaks him out to make him The Master again.

 

Yup. Like Devil Fruits in One Piece, the usefulness of a Dial persona depends on the user, not the powers it possesses... Though, to bring it back to the story, I doubt Mr Hamill would agree.

 

Probably doesn’t work like that, since the transformations were probably mostly one time only and the dial can probably turn anyone into someone like the Master if they input SPLIT. You might make him think he’s the master permanently but he might not be capable of the same kind of mad science due to lacking powers/super-intelligence. You’d also likely have to deal with the Wizard personality at some point if you’re talking about using brainwashing to make him the Master.

 

Ok this is weird:

All these updates are at the top of the page

Also Mr Zoat, all updates in QQ should be GMT -5, GMT -6 and GMT -7 instead of -5 GMT etc. (Also the last update in SV is like that but that one is locked)

 

The 1960s in comics did include a lot of horrifying implications, they just had more limits in what they could show or what words they could use. I had thought that the first appearance of the Master was in the 1980s, but that art doesn't suggest the '80s to me.

 

Wait, hold on. Can you just put any word that you want into the dial?

I thought it only had the letters "H" "E" "R" and "O", and so you can basically only do "HERO" or "HORROR" unless you find some clever and obscure word.

I mean, if you can put in anything, that opens up some rather scary possibilities. Like, for instance, "GOD".

 

There are variations. Robbie Reed's Dial (and thus the one Mr Hamill used) has a full spread of letters, across ten digits (presumably including H, E, R, O, V, I, L, A, N, S, P and T.)
Other versions such as the 80's series' Dials (from which the Master's scene above comes) have only H-E-R-O. Mr Zoat appears to be using the 80's idea of them as creations of the Wizard persona. No word on the aspects introduced in the modern series from the *** **, where the Dials stole powers from an alternate universe's super-beings..

 

The original dial (that Mr Hamill had I think) would technically enable that though due to eventually turning out to be in a time loop and not having an origin, it might be powerful enough to subtly stop people from doing that, or just do something like kill you and teleport you to a god (like Hades) (or just make you into a minor god ), but the later versions created by the wizard and the master only had the letters H,E,R, and O on them, so you could write HORROR or HERO or HER or HOE or ROE... but not just anything.

 

At least he's doing the OSHA compliant thing and clearly marking his deathtraps.

Zoat tags the updates with whatever time zone Paul's in at the time, or GMT if he's not on Earth.

Edit: Nevermind I see what you meant now

 

Thank you, corrected.

DC Comics Presents #44, April 1982. Actually Comic Code approved.

 

If you go with this idea, they could turn you into GOD-man from that one image on tv tropes/ the series of comic -strips since again, alternate universe, though who knows.

 

Here's a picture of Hero Cruz, as Isis, manhandling Granny Goodness during the Genesis event

Spoiler

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So yeah.

 

Gotta say, wasn't expecting Robbie to be so....broken, when they found him. Also wasn't expecting him to be so old, and I have no idea why I thought that. Figured, "Oh, another JL recruit."

I could use about 18 more hours of sleep.

 

Well let's compile the list. Do only English words count? What about acronyms?

Fear me for I am OREO the cookie master!

Dial HO HO HO and get all the powers of Santa.

ROO for super hopping powers.

OH for the power of sudden insights.