With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Is cheeky git the right phrase here? You know damn well what I meant. XP

Ah well see, the quote.

It's the almost there at the end that made me think he pulled the trigger anyway.

Is it a known unknown, or an unknown known?

 

Well I guess Truggs is going to be living up to his potential from that Superboy comic.

He hacked the dial so that he could turn other people into villains who are under his command.

So he turned Lana and Pete into supervillains against their will (among others) and forced Superboy to fight his own friends.

While he's portrayed Truggs as clever, Zoat's rendition has never been the threat that he was in his comic appearance.

 

She regards the dial curiously for a moment.

 

It's a known known.

 

Well, Mary-Jane has that to look foward too.

 

So ... fisting? Except with semen?

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Fascinating. It's too bad Mr. Joe Hamill here deals with his problems by drinking, because i'm sure there's some sort of deep philosophy about gender identity here, if only he wasn't drunk as shit. Still, dope storyline so far.

 

And zoat deals with the controversy that sparked the move in the first place, if people had shut the fuck up and waited or held their tongues then perhaps this situation would have been settled satisfactorily over on SV.

 

I’m not one who really cares about this since it doesn’t affect me, but the term tranny always seemed to me to be coparable to the n word. I don’t know if this is actually the case, and I get you’re a little angry, but this chapter as is would have DEFINITELY gotten you kicked off of sufficient velocity.
As for the whole controversy this still probably isn’t considered the RIGHT view by people on sv (though I don’t know what is).

 

The partially sober American construction worker folks.

 

Wasting energy discussing things that have already happened and are unlikely to change is somewhat pointless, and we should refrain from bringing it up again.

 

...But it's perfectly possible that he dialed something else first."
(This one tripped the spellcheck's US dictionary, but I can't remember your previous usage... Can't hurt to check it)

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Scans a bit roughly, at least to my eyes... maybe '...that they...' perhaps?

Heh. The allure of possibilities. Guessing he wasn't too interested, given the lack of Avarice.

Ah, if SV could see this...

...Or not.

"I got it! If that dial had put my mind in Wonder Woman's body, I'd be Wonder Woman, right?"

Boy, this episode was a shitshow on multiple levels, huh? I suspect I'm not the only one glad to move on, am I...

 

Eh, different people get bothered by different things.

This arc didn't bother me at all, but that last one with silver city was hitting all kinds of buttons.

The choice is either to just drop the fic, grit your teeth and power through it, or cause enough trouble that the fic has to move to a different site.

To each their own and as long as the people in the thread can stay civil with each other it's not really that hard to be tolerant of veiwpoints that are different than your own.

It's when everything devolves to personal attacks and insults that everything bursts into flames.

 

So does anyone else picture Parasite noshing on the H-Dial and going Kevin 11 now that Truggs has it?

 

mind

 

Joe is not exactly PC.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Everyone here read Transmetropolitan?

In the city in which Transmetropolitan is set, there is a group of people who have used alien DNA to alter their bodies. They are referred to locally as 'Transients', in that they are 'transitioning' from one species to another. When pressed, the group's nominal leader admits that no one has successfully fully transformed into an alien and that partial transformations are the best they can do. The main character then says 'So you're all failures', which the leader finds rather offensive.

I could write any of that on SV, but substitute one word...

 

And its over, with another victory for the villains.

And we are back in space dealing with things that could be a threat for Paul.

Also I am still happy that the angels nuked Kord Tech and that they agreed to revive everyone they killed (meaning even if the blue beetle died because it was weaker in stealth mode it probably counted for a revive) meaning we have achieved sufficient levels of plot, for Jaime to have the beetle and Paul will even be in space doing his thing when Jaime starts being active as a super hero.


Then again I could be wrong.

 

Wait, does the dial change your brain at all? Or does it leave that alone unless changing the person's mind is part of the power-up like the Master?

 

It would probably have to, or give you some sort of weird magical intermediary. While looking for the dial, we saw someone turn into a Sherlock Holmes stand-in with improved inductive reasoning, and a alien with a different language and some sort of extra sense for tracking stuff. Would be pretty hard to do any of those without changing how you think at least a little.

 

It generally doesn't change the mind. Generally. However....

Truggs made Superboy's friends into slaves.

Chris once turned into Cosmic Viking or something and didn't remember being Chris.

Wizard and Master had different personalities than Robbie, although they didn't forget being Robbie until Wizard dialed "hide" on the dial.

Hero changed mentally with each transformation. As Isis, bragged about being Osiris' sister-wife, and he had multiple transformations that obviously didn't share his sexual orientation.

Caused a bit of a plot point, Sparx did not take rejection well. If she had taken it any worse death by electrocution would have been on the table.

In the China Miéville series a soldier with the sidekick dial became submissive, and dial users suffering bleed through from the person they transformed into was a common occurrence. Manteau wears a cloak, mask, and wig over her transformations as psychological talismans to maintain her identity.

Spoiler

 

Thank the Source Wall this is over.

 

Spoiler: Psst

I feel the same way.

 

I suppose it's reasonably comparable, all the way down to it having been historically acceptable even to the people themselves, there being some people who think the whole controversy is overblown, and some who would rather reclaim the word rather than let its offensiveness have power over them.

Of course, I'm a farm kid from the Midwest. "Tranny" to my ear is short for a vehicle's transmission.

 

If true, that's a shame because if a character in a story cannot express wrong things, it restricts what can be written about by quite a bit, and these are such fuzzy things.
'Tranny' should probably be considered offensive because it's used as such in most cases, similarly to how 'Bastard' in modern context isn't used to refer to children outside wedlock, but as a derogatory description of one's character.
Of course, some people aren't aware of alternate non-offensive shorthands to express themselves.
Of course, there are contexts where the word 'girl' is derogatory, so it's all blargh.

 

Wait, wait, wait......people get rid of books? Whatever for?