With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Thank you, corrected,

 

So he is at least remembering Eris this time.

Also, who is Xalitan? Xor?

 

I doubt it was the top-tier stuff. Just the junk DeSaad had laying around that he could spare for what would be considered a minor skirmish on a backwater dirtball.

 

His full name is Xalitan Xor.

 

That and they're off-duty for this scene, so everyone gets first names.

 

It really says something when Guy of all people is better at working with others then Paul.

 

Probably.

Zoat said that the Forever People would have been hurt worse by Intergang if they had just shot them with their guns.

 

Welsh John is the guy with Fate’s helmet, right?

 

Yes, which reminds me; does anyone remember the Welsh police actually confirming this John’s identity in-story? I don’t think it came up even in Paragon’s internal narration.
Also what’s the Justice League’s relationship with him like? He fought alongside them in the Silver City episodes and his power and knowledge (from the libraries in the Tower of Fate) make him a pretty valuable asset; he seems heroic enough to be offered a place on the League as well (I do expect the whole Golden Boy thing to rear its head when Constantine returns, but from the characters’ perspectives he’s a good candidate).
How are Doctor Fate’s talks with Amander Waller going? We know Demon Constantine is free and probably up to something, and there should probably be more urgency about that- unless that’s something Fate is working on.
Lastly I don’t really see how the more overtly criminal members of the Light- primarily Brain and Savage- can continue to hide from the scrying capabilities of Doctor Mist, Blaze and Doctor Fate likely working together. The Light lost Klarion and Ocean Master, Satanus should be tied up in legal proceedings and in any case his position in Hell should be neutralized by Paragon’s seemingly allied Mammon; I believe I’m aware of the current spoiler members of the Light and I don’t think they have it in them to continue anti-scrying well- remember that scry wards are very effective against Paragon but a magic user can break through relatively easily given enough power, as shown with Renegade and Ambrose Bierce. Circe does seem to be working with them more closely, which I forgot for a minute, but the good guys’ mystic firepower should be superior at this point, in my opinion. Maybe Paragon’s possible deity switch (Hecate could be intrigued by developing a whole new mystic tradition for Paul’s avarice-soul, though thinking about it she might make a good patron for Zatanna too) could help out with Circe- or Eris could follow Paragon’s example and actually do something productively chaotic (she helped with the Ace of Chaos but really nothing since then).
I know Zoat said he has plans for Ares, so I look forward to an episode dealing with the Greek/classical mythological elements of the setting.

 

Probably the latter. DC has a number of fictional sports teams to go with their fictional cities.

 

The kind of funny part is that arguably this is one of the most chaotic things he's done, when you consider how significant the people involved are. He disrupted the plans of the Anti-Monitor and stirred up three different factions of Maltusians. Hell, he got the lord bobbleheads of stubborn hardheadedness to consider and actively research changing their standard procedure

 

Well he does have psych degree, even if he doesn't show it a lot.

 

Insuring, huh? What kind of policy is it -- do I get reimbursed if the enslaved lunatic gets hurt, or is it a liability policy that covers the costs if the enslaved lunatic hurts someone? Is there a deductible?

Missing the closing single quote, probably after "years".

 

Unless Paul did nothing for 24 hours, that should probably say 24th January.

 

Coast City Stallions are their local sportsball team, IIRC

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

In DC cannon Greek and Norse gods are, as OL has put it, basically hopped up elementals, but the Abrahamic diety is an aspect of The Presence. He's kinda an obscure character, but he is as infinitely powerful as the holy texts of the relevant religions suggest. In other words, in the DC verse (uni or multi, take your pick), the Abrahamic God - who is also the God of most other monotheistic religions - is indeed FAR more powerful than the Greek and Norse gods.

Or, if that offends your sensibilities, just consider that any monotheistic god should have the entire combined power of an entire pantheon on polytheistic gods.

Now to be fair I think - emphasis on think because it's been a good long time since I've had the time or the care to actually keep up with the continuity - in current DC cannon The Presence has not been seen since the last reboot and if he is still around Doctor Manhattan could give him a run for his money.

 

It's worth remembering that Guy IS a trained - and by all accounts quite good - counselor. That would seem to suggest that he's VERY good at working with others when he wants or has a good reason to be.

 

It's also worth remembering that people familiar with the comics remember Guy as the fellow who received permanent brain damage that left him in a multiyear coma and permanently altered his personality. You might remember the mention of Guy being hit by a bus earlier in this story, well here's a checklist of the possible symptoms of the brain damage Guy suffered in that incident-

frustration, increased anger/aggressiveness

impulsivity or difficulties in self-control

faulty or poor judgment

decreased ability to initiate conversation or activity

repetitive behaviors (perseveration)

less effective social skills

changes in sexual behaviors

impaired self awareness

depression

increased anxiety

mood swings (emotional lability)

changes in self-esteem

While Guy was given anger issues from an abusive childhood, the Guy before the accident was more Mr Rogers than Animal House.

 

True, but isn't it already established that this Guy isn't that version of the character? Like WAAAAY back?

 

Guy first became a Green Lantern seven years before Team Year Zero. Then came the coma. Guy then emerged from his coma in March of Team Year Zero.

A short coma doesn't make the answer to "How long was Guy a GL?" complicated.

In this story, that long coma came from being hit by a bus. "He got hit by a bus which caused him to get replaced by Lantern Stewart."

Traumatic brain injuries that cause long comas have the side effects I listed above, the fact that Paul wouldn't describe him as the "idiot Guy from the comics" doesn't miraculously make permanent brain damage go away.

 

It was already mentioned that Guy probably used his Ring to fix his brain damage when he was learning to protect himself from assimilation.

 

That's not actually my point. The power of the Warbot in the grand scheme of things is irrelevant to what I was talking about.

OL showed up, took out a hunk of mooks, and then took on the boss with a variety of Ring Techniques. Every single one of thing attacks actually DID something. His constructs actually DID damage.

In DC canon just putting on an Orange Ring drives you insane with greed. In DC canon there is only ever one Orange Lantern at a time, minus the people he devours, because the orange light does not lend itself to being shared.

In DC canon all manner of stupid shit is canon, much of which Zoat actively ignores.

Besides, I already KNOW what's behind the Source wall.

Jack The Mo'fucking King Kirby.

I have an open hatred of Abrahamic mythology for a number of personal reasons.

But to the point....it's fucking boring. I likewise see no point, or damage done, in having all the "Top" gods be on the same level. I find it highly agitating how, in fictional universes where ANYTHING can apply, other cultures, and their mythology which Abrahamic mythology clearly cribbed and stole form, get shit on. Solely because if we don't put it forth as the "One true" whatever, real life followers will FREAK THE FUCK OUT (and for some reason, we all must actively cater to the sniveling fucks) . I will point over to SV when OL swiped the Magic Fruit and a fucking MELTDOWN occurred with certain people. I will also point out that yahweh's HOLY FUCKING FUCK ULTIMATE POWER is more a pop culture thing than something shown in his actual collection of tales where honestly? He's shown to be at the same level as other Mythological gods were told to be. (Lack of current days imagination showing). I mean, in one tale, he fights alongside his army by doing what? Hurling ROCKS from the sky.

And for fucks sake, the English word "God" is derived from a proto-germanic word to DESCRIBE ODIN.

 

Certainly one way to read that, and it even seems to be Zoat's intention, although there's the tiny fact that the dialogue doesn't make sense.

Guy specifically said “You said you heal yourself by focusing your need to be perfect. But I’m me right? I already know I’m perfect. So, I just gotta focus on being me, hard as I can? I can do that. I am.”

So Guy focused on staying the exact same as he presently is because he's perfect, and Paul's theory is that Guy willing himself to stay the exact same changed him....

You see the problem there, yes?

 

Assuming Guy's perception of himself is accurate, he willed himself to be what he perceives himself to be, not necessarily remain the same as he is.

 

He willed his body to match his soul? Wait, is THAT what enlightenment is? Becoming a being that can survive / reason as a disembodied soul? Perfectly knowing one’s self to the point that you can sustain your soul with the ring?

 

Not sure who Misha is, but nice to see another Paul back, even if it’s the most tragic one. He seems to have been operating for a while so couldn’t Stewart or Rayner secure Guardian assistance to neutralize the Anti-Green ring?
I’m aware that this isn’t exactly DCAU but it’s similar enough, so can I ask where in that setting’s timeline this is taking place?

 

............. Man. This Zoat got the short end of the stick. Wonder if his Krona ring can fight Time Trapper paul though.