With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Being smart and being wise are two different things.

One thing you have to know about Lex Luthor is that his worst enemy is not Superman, is not Batman, is not the common man, is himself.

He has such a big ego, that he always believes that he is right. And it seems this good Luthor shares the same flaw.

Even Doctor Doom has less trouble to admit his mistakes than Lex Luthor and that's saying something.

 

I agree, but i'm trying to go by Vaermina's definitions here.

 

OK, fair point.

 

Especially since the Question's variant was heavily focused on whether he should assassinate Luthor.

 

I’m not sure if that’s the same thing as being destroyed though. He went in, then magically appeared on earth, then vanished.
If anything, he might have become one with the Source and ascended. He wouldn’t have appeared on earth if he had been destroyed outright.

Regardless of how smart he was, wisdom was the character’s dump stat. He could have cured cancer or solved the energy crisis to prove he’s better than Superman.

 

Either "barrier, then" or "barrier. Then".

... wha? That doesn't even make sense. I mean, we're on this site specifically because the character isn't a line-toeing liberal. Liberal-leaning, sure, but he is FAR from being a stereotypical liberal avatar. And as for tropes... I mean, there are tropes for everything, including opposite ways of handling situations; it's harder to write a story that DOESN'T invoke any tropes.

And of course the main character of a superhero story is going to win in the end. The drama comes from his risks and failures along the way. And that isn't a guaranteed thing at all.

 

Steady, there. Down that path lies madness.

 

"Then I'm overqualified."

 

For me, the issue is that Paul is pretty apathetic toward these events.

Unless there's some ass-pulls, the only rational outcome I was see from Plan "the Syndicate heads off en masse to conquer some country the U.S. doesn't give a fuck about" is the heroes waiting until the Syndicate is nicely somewhere they don't give a fuck about, and then obliterating them (along with lots of undoubtedly innocent people that, alas, they don't give a fuck about).

... which, if that was Paul's plan, and his entire idea was just to get the Syndicate to essentially put down their metaphorical hostage and back away, whereupon the metaphorical cops fill them full of metaphorical lead, maybe that would have some merit? The problem is that it seems like we'll get that outcome not because Paul planned it, but because he just doesn't give enough fucks to care what happens next.

It's difficult for me to give a fuck about a story that the main character doesn't.

Kind of feels like the entire point here is to artificially force a scenario where Blue Paul is going to get pissed off at how Paul fucked up his Earth, leading to a confrontation between them.

 

Dude, you might wanna like....take a long break or something. I have no idea what you wanted (though I imagine it was something along the lines of OL just being smacked around and destroyed) but if you are taking all of this so personally that you're referring to a storyline in a fanfiction written for fun as "Disgusting", then I think this is all a bit too much for you.

If you have legitimate criticism, you could try to be constructive about it.

 

Again, a little silly that Zatanna comes along for this adventure but doesn't get to participate in anything.

 

Yeah, you could say he has “Lord Kelvin’s Disease”
he knows everything allready, and a lesser mind couldn’t possibly be right and his wrong!

 

stubborn (adj.)

late 14c., of uncertain origin. Earliest form is stiborn. OED, Liberman doubt any connection with stub (n.). Related: Stubbornly; stubbornness. Example: Lex Luthor.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

.... before people start howling about murder, would it help if I remind everyone that he was a murderous lunatic fully willing to commit arguable/technical treason (I.e the complete destruction of the United States of america as a functional nation and the deaths of millions of its citizens) in persuit of personal revenge, who had allready murdered a bare minimum of one incapacitated prisoner with his bare hands, and had filled his administration with sycophantic yes-men?
i mean, his own vice-president admitted he was intractablely obsessed...

 

Almost certainly not, but I can't blame you for trying.

 

Is Jonathan going with the league? Can't stay in this parallel because of how bad things are, and cause he won't be able to stay away.

 

I think you mean Talon aka Jason Todd.

 

Duela is not going to like Joker 12.

 

You step away for five minutes...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Well, Kon doesn't have 'heat' vision so much as plasma eyeblasts, so fair's fair.

Lucky for you, OL.

The old Syndicate facility under Mount Justice...

His vitals… He'll have bruises, but I don't think there'll be any permanent damage.
(unless that was intentional, referring to the bruising?)

Very sensible...

Extraneous 'the'.

Teleconferencing, Magic style.

He looks directly at me, his disdain evident.
(seeing this a lot...)

Well, Wilson is out. Luthor gets a year or two in charge before an Election, I think?

You've done us a good turn here.

Harsh, but fair. I can tell OL wants to say "Don't make me come back here."

I'm honestly amazed religion is anything like positive-morality planes. No Crime Bible?

Welp, all over bar the after-action reports, I hope. I can't wait to see Blue's reaction when he gets back and sees what happened...

 

You had a coding error.

 

I can honestly say that I was never expecting to see the Negative universe again. It's been....odd.

Certainly can't say I would have taken the same road OL has. But we are different people.

Still...the only clear option OL has here is to take Ultraboy home with him, dump the boring Jade chick, and redeem his Ultraheart with the power of (boy)Love.

 

Already fixed. Left a stray /quote tag loose.

 

Pure pragmatism, me like.

The Answer seems to be a neutral character? Or are they a villain, technically?

And I would love an epilogue with JL-12. And yes I wouldn't mind a self-rightous lecture from Paul for them.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Between Maxx's boy love and others still hoping for a sudden Zatanna route, I respect some people's shipping hopes here xD

Well, this has a... certain level of resolution I guess, but the Illustres had already exceeded his quota of fucks to give for this situation. I'm beginning to dread that he's not gonna get back his Star Sapphire (which is bulll****, by the way, that's a net loss) but still curious about what the Answer wants to tell him.

On the other hand, what will people be thinking back home with their sudden disappearance? And what will they think if they read the report for this kidnapping?

 

I don't bother with hope, I just like being irreverent.

Spoiler: Because

I already know it's never going to happen.

 

I thought she started worshiping Aphrodite.

 

It’s like Scientology, you can be both. There’s nothing saying you can’t both believe in the Greek Gods having power, and have enough faith in the Source to go to The Silver City.