With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Contamination issues. They aren't the same species as humans, but if they have even somewhat similar biology then it isn't safe for them to eat meat from other individuals.

Pretty much by definition, any diseases a human is carrying are infectious to other humans. And even if you cook the meat thoroughly, non-sterilizable* infectious agents like prions are still a serious risk. There have been past cases of prion disease outbreaks caused by eating human flesh, such as Kuru.

In this context, rendering that meat safe would require advanced nanotech or other intensive processing techniques. It'd be way easier to just build a new vat-meat factory instead.


*Okay, yes, technically you can sterilize anything. But some prions are stable at extremely high temperatures, and are resistant to many other sterilization techniques. Cooking certainly won't get rid of it; even many hospital sterilization techniques are ineffective.

There was even a study done, where they burned prion-infected tissue to ash and tested if it was still infectious.
After cooking for 15 minutes at 600 °C(1112°F), it still infected 2 out of 21 lab rats.

Remember kids, never eat your own species. You might catch bad germs!

 

Honestly Paragon or some Maltusian faction connected to him should have done something about the Psions during his exploits in Vega; just like wizards, you don’t give mad scientist-types prep time that’ll make them exponentially more dangerous.
I’m not indirectly blaming him for the Alignment War Hound program since that’s definitely gone on for longer, but it’s still a loose thread which doesn’t really fit the ideal/enlightened Orange Lantern philosophy of completing a task as thoroughly and perfectly as possible.

 

Are you talking about the semi-serious crackfic where the Hidden Leaf village was actually a huge cult that worshipped the Hokage as a god, to the point where when Orochimaru, who has been a wanted traitor for decades, was revealed to be the new Hokage after the old one was obviously assassinated everyone just bowed and acknowledged him as the new one?

It was slowly revealed that they also smile and laugh joyously when they fight and kill, and the other villages find this super creepy?

 

It's unhygienic is what it is, and super dangerous at that.

 

Yes, someone linked it already. Sasuke Uchiha and the power of lies.
The thing was, the fic had depth. Instead of literally worshipping him as a god, I read it as them repeating the party’s lies that he IS a god, despite a lot of them knowing that observed reality doesn’t quite match up. Also, Konoha is still genuinely the “nice” village. Instead of killing Orochimaru, they villainized him. Instead of killing people, they brainwash them. It was a great take on 1984/ Oceania, but with ninjas.

 

I think your alerts have a you problem
EDIT : though, uh, that's rather hypocritical coming from me https://imgur.com/a/3aThscv

 

If you do look at them, they do reset you know.
Unless that is like a week or lesses worth, you are just being lazy. Also, I think you can trigger what triggers alerts, like making it so only quotes, replies, and OP posts or threadmarks do, but not likes or regular thread replies.

EDIT:

Why yes, yes I am the same person as I used to be, and I mean that literally, not just metaphorically. Because we use our old selves as biomatter to nourish our new bodies. As is traditional and right and proper.

 

The thing is, Boruto is a terrible name in some languages. Just for that alone I skipped the sequel and I am glad at did.

Sequels do suck most of the time, decent to good sequels are the exception not the norm.

 

Prions...Prions everywhere....
then again, given how stupid the idea was even as a last-gasp of a dying society, i wouldn't be surprised if the people who came up with it in-universe were already most of the way to having sponge-for-brains anyway >.<

short version for those not in the know, cannibalism literally rots holes through your brain (hence the diagnosis "spongiform encephalitis) as the warped/broken protein fragments (Prions) attempt to bind to tissue at random, and royally %$^# the contents of your brainpan up- its why cannibalism's been associated with insanity for so long BESIDES the well-known social stigmata- there's a very high chance it'll send a "practitioner" round the bend,before killing them horribly >.<​

 

In.

And maybe "can threaten" though that is optional.

 

I'm afraid that Chojin Patriarch beat you via PM.

 

I watch exactly one thread. It's fairly easy.

Naruto basically died during the Naruto/Neji fight and then the first battle at the valley at the end gave it the I'm double tap to finish it off.

 

Unless that's dialect, "have anti-phasing weapons".

But what about eating books?

In all seriousness... Cannibalism is really only a problem for cultural reasons. Prion diseases exist, yes, and they're nasty stuff, but they're not exactly common, and you can get them from sources other than cannibalism. For a non-human species with different biology, there may be no problems at all.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

The dietary discussions above reminded me of an interesting bit from the Karen Travis novels for Star Wars: Republic Commando.

Spoiler: They Say that in the Grand Army, the Food is Mighty Fine...

A Marit trotted over and peered into the stew, head jerking slightly like a droid. "You like it?"

Atin, kneeling down to help himself to another portion, looked up innocently. The scar across his face-the one that Vau had given him-was a thin white line now. "It's very tasty."

"My great-grandmother!" the Marit beamed. It was weird to watch a lizard smile like a human. They seemed to have a double row of small triangular teeth. "She'll be happy."

Darman noticed A'den slide forward a little and try to interrupt the exchange. "Atin..."

But Atin was off, being polite to the locals and taking his hearts-and-minds role seriously. "Is it her recipe, then?"

"Atin..."

"It's her," said the Marit, and wandered off. Atin stared into the bowl. There was a moment of complete silence, and A'den sighed. Fi put his knuckles to his mouth to stifle nervous laughter, but it didn't work.

Niner chewed to a halt. Darman tried to be culturally sensitive and all that, but he was hungry, and the Marit seemed pleased they were enjoying the meal.

"Oh fierfek..." Atin put his mess tin down on the ground and sat back on his heels. He screwed his eyes shut tight, and judging by the way his lips compressed he was in serious digestive crisis, as Ordo called it. Then he rocked back on his heels, stood up, and bolted for the nearest bushes.

"He's throwing up," Niner said, and went on eating. The faint sound of retching confirmed his diagnosis.

A'den shrugged. "It's not like they killed her to eat her. It's how they dispose of their dead. They like to think they do their families some good after they're gone. It's rude not to tuck in."

"Cultural diversity's a wonderful thing," Fi observed, but he looked quite pale. "What do they do for desserts?"

Niner fished out a chunk of lean meat and gazed at it, then popped it into his mouth and chewed thoughtfully. Darman didn't know he could be so daring. "I never thought I'd resort to cannibalism."

"It's not cannibalism for us, Niner," A'den said. "Just for them."

"That's the Grand Army for you." Fi's face seemed back to its normal color again. "See the galaxy, meet fascinating new species, and snack on them."

 

Thanks y'all for engaging with my deliberately provocative question.

Agreed. But not an actual reason unless you have a sound basis for your moral beliefs.

See above.

Finally an actual reason... but

so maybe eating them is not an issue after all?

 

Not really a counter to your complaint but do keep in mind that, while they're not much like historical ninjas, they are perfectly consistent with fictional ones. I tend to view that complaint as being like worrying that a story about witches or whatever doesn't portray them the way they were irl.

 

Ah, no... I was more complaining about that instead of being sneaky backstabbing bastards like ninjas in media, even if they have superpowers, the later seasons of Naruto overpower the ninjas to the point where sneaking just doesn’t happen.

This is the equivalent of instead of wizards either using secret knowledge, or making deals with powerful forces, they’re born with straight up superpowers, and are each able to use them perfectly from day 1. Harry Potter is almost this, but controlled magic is still knowledge based, so he’s a wizard.

Basically, later Naruto seasons lack the essence of what ninjas are about. They’re not jojo type fights where tricks always come in handy, but DBZ type punchemups. I don’t mind them having powers, if the name of the game is to assassinate your opponent, or sneak up on them, or use distractions. Earlier seasons/ volumes are fine. But when the solution of a fight basically amounts to “let’s punch him together” or “let’s invent a new previously impossible move on the spot” or “suddenly, meteor”, or getting a sudden last season power boost, that’s no longer doing ninja stuff, but full out 1v1 superpower fights. Basically, use some type of stealth / trick, or you’re not a ninja in any sense of the word.

 

This is reaching Dune levels of Plans within Plans, 'What do they know?' calculations. Lovely.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

There is that, yes.

Suspect, but not confirmed. Either it was covered up very well, or it's coincidence?

Concerning. But not damning evidence of anything... They could be Batman-level crazy-prepared...

All very sensible, at least.

Ah, a stealth game's best friend: Vision cones.

No executing future materiel. How compassionate.

Uh-oh!

Cue Metal Gear Solid alert sound and '!'

Don't get ahead of yourself, OL. Get out of Dodge, first.

...Hoses? ...No, I don't want to know.

Forced Stealth over with, now for fleet combat. Prep the flight sim controls!

Hoo boy. Time will only tell how sucessfully his operation went... Time for some action, now!

 

Ohohohoho. ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH! (Every single time Paul takes on an alien government.

 

But not yet at HPMoR levels.

 

Was it really worth the risk being spotted?

I have a hard time imagining a situation where classified files would be kept on a private, mobile computer rather than in the protected center of the facility.

 

You would be surprised. Security and convenience are always opposited to each other and convenience often wins out.

 

The logic could also be not writing on it anywhere except for secure personal communication which then gets deleted. Though I assume they just bought the blueprints or the one machine off of the Psions.

 

from what ive heard, the higher people are up in a Corperate/military chain of command, the more likely they are to believe that operational security/ basic password changing/locking the terminal when you leave the desk MAGICALLY doesn't apply to them.
or someone does face-value stupid things like leaving out post-it's on their monitor with their current password, because IT/corporate insists on using hard-to-memorize gibberish like jdgtj39 for their passwords and changing it every month/fortnight, instead of something that's memoriseable and actually resistant to brute-force automated guessing...

i prefer the XKCD method myself, but that requires someone to make every password manually, so you usually get alphabet soup instead of something like QuestionableQuestingZoatWTRThreadParagonTimelineP298 (long AND easy to remember as it serves as a Memnomic- i used to use "UsedCarDealerUntrustworthyGrin" myself a few years back), or people resorting to demanding to be issued something 8 characters or less so they have a chance of memorizing it...>.<.
...then there's the edge cases with specialist software, and resisting upgrades to maintain compatibility, but that could go on for hours XD
suffice to say, one of the issues is that we've been writing security policies WRONG for well over a decade- the former guidelines for making passwords ect basically led to a lot of weak codes that people have issues memorizing, and that can be brute-forced by a dictionary/alphabet guesser relatively quickly due to being short- and the irritating nature of said passwords leads a lot of people with pull to force exceptions or leave notes anyway....

 

We can always go one level higher.

 

You know last episode how he connected to the server, copied everything without reading it, disconnected, and only started perusing then? That was smart. This just sounded stupid. While Paul was looking through the files the filament got noticed, when he should have been in and out way before then.

This isn't a bad tv/movie where the download times follow the rule of drama. This is supposed to be a rational SI with a xenotech power ring, and a man portable amount of storage. The download should have been completed and the filament gone by the time OL finished thinking the download command.

 

It takes someone with a pretty serious lack of morals to work with Psions see as they tend to be seriously sadistic mad scientists.

 

Hey Zoat, you might be getting a transition buddy from SV soon! CmptrWz got an infraction for writing a single line where a medical professional misgendered someone in the context of their biological sex.