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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. thebishop8

    thebishop8 Umm, ackchyually...

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    Episode 39: Black Reign, starting at about part six.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    9th February
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    The courtier opposite me fidgets as I pointedly create a clock-construct showing the amount of time I've been here without seeing Chief Minister Rikane. I don't look at it; I just let it make its own statement. Initially, I tried engaging her in conversation, but apparently she's been ordered not to talk to me. At first I assumed that such orders would be limited to politics, but no. I tried asking her about Crown Imperium fashion trends and how my formal robes would look, at which point she politely informed me that she couldn't talk to me about anything at all.

    I'm not inactive; I'm adding a short section on imperialism to my book… Which might well cause a schism in a century or two-. No, no it won't, because by the combined wonders of bribing the God of Death and septophobia-reinforced orange light biomancy I'll still be around to sort things out.

    Hm.

    I wonder if I could talk Hades into reconsidering the waters of the Lethe requirement for reincarnating? Or at least making it temporary? Plenty of religions allow people to reclaim past-life-.

    The door finally opens and I dismiss the clock construct as I turn to greet Chief Minister Rikane-.

    And Empress Clryssa, apparently. She's wearing a surprisingly simple green dress, ornamented only by a gold… Tiara type thing which frames the upper part of her face but has only a thin circlet component to keep it in place. I perform a shallow bow in her direction.

    "Your Imperial Majesty."

    "Master Lantern. What a surprise it is to find you here."

    It-? Ah. The courtier who had been keeping me company is already out of the door, closing it firmly behind her. Of course. A 'chance encounter'. Good job I watched The West Wing, or I'd be jolly confused right now.

    "Not an entirely unpleasant one, I hope?"

    "I share that hope." She proceeds past me to a position at the head of a small table that.. I now realise doesn't fit in with the room's decoration at all.

    Rikane nods politely to me. "Master Lantern."

    I nod back. "Chief Minister. It seems that I must apologise for intruding upon you."

    "Think nothing of it. Please, be seated."

    He takes position standing to the right of the Empress, leaving me the seat a little way down the table to her left. Of course, I could create a construct chair and sit somewhere else, but… That would be petty. This woman does run an empire of a not-inconsiderable size and sophistication, and does at least a reasonable job of it. And it's not like the Thanagarians wheeled out the High Mor to meet me.

    I sit, and smile politely as I wait for the Empress to decide how we start.

    "I recognise that your robe means that you are a member of the Honour Guard of your Corps, but I am unfamiliar with the design which runs down it. Those members of the Green Lantern Honour Guard who have visited us wore plain robes."

    "It's my full rank insignia. Since it fell to me to establish a tradition, I felt that something which indicated both the wearer's rank and most notable spiritual achievements would be helpful in allowing someone unfamiliar with the individual to know certain things about them."

    "Spiritual achievements? Are you a priest?"

    Lanternism isn't all that popular in the Crown Imperium. The people having to live next to the Guardians' dumping ground has rather worked against it. Nonetheless, the Empress would naturally be familiar with Light Priests. Which reminds me: I really need to visit Karax at some point and make sure that they're not having some sort of religious implosion. And maybe bring Guy along.

    "It depends on how you're using the term. I serve the Ophidian directly and give spiritual advice to my fellow Lanterns, but I don't lead acts of worship."

    "And what is the Ophidian?"

    "Each colour has a great elemental being associated with it. For the Green Light of Will, that is Ion. For the Orange Light of Avarice, that is Ophidian. Until a little over a year ago, she was trapped on Okaara by Larfleeze, the one you might know as The Beast. She's… Part of why I'm here, actually." I fabricate my updated book. "Given what Larfleeze did to this region, I feel partly responsible for making sure that it gets normalised. It's not practical for me to stay here myself, but I've been looking for someone local who could take an orange ring." I put the book down on the table and slide it towards her. "This is a guide to the beliefs and practices necessary for someone to be a capable Orange Lantern."

    Rikane nods and comes around the table to pick it up and then walks back. "Thank you. I will ensure that it is circulated to appropriate people."

    "The High Conciliator of Emana, Supreme Commander Gaharrugh, Commodore Amalak, the Chief of Blood Flecks clan and the Queen of the local Spider Guild Control Nest all have copies. While I'm not restricted to one Lantern… I don't see any benefit in choosing Lanterns who will spend all of their time arguing with one another."

    "I… See. Perhaps if we move the conversation onwards?"

    I nod. "Certainly. Amalak and the Queen want peaceful coexistence. Amalak is-" I glance at Rikane. "-reasonably civilised, and he's recognised that it's no longer advantageous for him to treat with the pirates who made Vega their trading centre."

    "Amalak is a slave trader."

    "Amalak owns no slaves. Those he bought can pay off their cost to regain their freedom. It isn't fundamentally different to debtor-servitude as it exists in the Crown Imperium. He did of course deal with slavers, but that's true of just about everyone in the region. They didn't have much choice."

    "They would rapidly gain one if I ordered Admiral Oswin to secure the region."

    "They have a choice already. The distance is not great, any who wished to petition you to join the Crown Imperium could do so. Instead, they're more comfortable to pay Amalak for his security services."

    "I am not surprised, when they lie under his guns."

    "Are you sure that's why? Because it seems that would be relatively easy for a diplomat or intelligence operative to check."

    "And his less popular pirate allies?"

    "If you want them dead, then I'll include that in the demands list. But are you sure that you wouldn't rather that he give you their itinerary so that you can ambush them?"

    The Empress stirs slightly at that. "Would he really betray his business partners that easily?"

    "He knows which way the wind is blowing."

    "I'm not sure that metaphor translated properly."

    "No one likes pirates or slavers, any more than they like asset strippers or currency speculators. They can only survive if powerful people arrange things so that they can survive. The Citadel Empire is gone, the Branx are having a Corporate War which the Citadel-aligned consortia can't win, and the Citadel-aligned gordanians are going to be killed or sent into exile. The support structure is gone. Amalak knows that just as well as I do. That means that his primary revenue sources are the people employing him for protection, not the black market dealings he has with the pirates. The only questions are: do they get smart and stop coming or does someone kill them, and do they get killed by their former victims or an external power."

    "And Jarko?"

    "Jarko's in a tight spot. He can't fight your navy directly, and his ability to fight you indirectly is going to take a hit. On the other hand, you can't hold Asryx."

    "I think you underestimate our navy."

    "I think you underestimate how much everyone there hates you. You can destroy what naval units they've got and land troops, but it will be the bloodiest occupation you've ever seen. Soldiers on the planet won't be able to move for snipers and concealed explosives. And their friends will be attacking every weak point they can find, as opposed to what they're doing now which is stick to their own territory and impose taxes. If you really want the place, you'd be better off coming to terms with Jarko directly. But I honestly don't think it's worth it."

    "And the Spider Guild?"

    "Killing them results in the next Control Nest along sending a fleet because they can't be seen to allow that sort of thing to happen. The local Control Nest doesn't have a fleet and couldn't threaten you even if it wanted to. And if you want to check any of that, I'll be happy to escort a diplomatic party."

    The Empress inclines her head slightly. "You have given me much to consider. Are you able to remain on the planet while my ministers and I discuss the topic?"

    "I'd be happy to."
     
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  3. Queshire

    Queshire Not too sore, are you?

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    Hrm, polite but I doubt they'd be willing to take his word for it without checking with their own sources.
     
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  4. Ardy

    Ardy I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Mmmmm, delicious imperial goodness!
     
  5. thebishop8

    thebishop8 Umm, ackchyually...

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    *reconsidering

    *reasonable, I'm pretty sure.

    *Thanagarians, plural

    This sentence needs work.

    Either

    The distances are not great,
    or
    The distance is not great,
     
  6. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    Boy, his reputation precedes him, doesn't it? :)

    Effective eternal life and youth. Always fun.

    Oh-ho, he's gotten some big attention.

    Sometimes the most important meetings take place in the least assuming places. Like hallways or bathrooms.

    Politeness is everything in this case.

    So there are now rank flashes for things like Enlightenment? Nice.

    Huh. I suppose some form of religion would build up around people who can fly and work 'magic' with green lights.

    Yet.

    "Given what Larfleeze did to the region...

    'Appropriate' having so many meanings here...

    So optimistic.

    There's a mismatch here...

    But are you sure that you wouldn't rather that he give you their itinerary...

    A good reminder that even Maltusian hyper-tech isn't infallible.

    It's an old, old story...

    Given that they'd have trouble inserting spies into a Spider Guild colony...

    Always entertaining to see somewhat rational leadership. It'll be interesting to see what comes from it.
     
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  7. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    Mr Zoat, I know you're actively avoiding semicolons but this is the perfect opportunity for one. Currently the "The people" bit stops these sentences flowing nicely. How about the following?
    "Lanternism isn't all that popular in the Crown Imperium; having to live next to the Guardians' dumping ground has rather worked against it."

    Nah, it's an another archaic term - refer to the second definition. https://www.google.com/search?q=seasonable
     
  8. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Unless you know, someone kills you and or seals your soul in a jar. ;)
     
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  9. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  10. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Versed in the lewd.

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    Wait, so Paul is implying he will choose only one Lantern for the region?

    What a delightful little power play >:)
     
  11. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    I would think he's implying that he would pick lanterns that wouldn't try to tear each other, and the whole sector, apart.
     
  12. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    The Ophidian and Hades already have dibs on his soul. Attempting to steal from either of them is unwise at best.
     
  13. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    Also, if it’s just a normal / magical jar and not a pocket dimension jar (and maybe even then), OL can just greedport out. Don’t think he needs his body / ring for that.
     
  14. Buggy123

    Buggy123 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Oh, huh. I hadn't thought of that.

    So in essence, the Ophidian has to share OL's soul when he dies...

    I'm sure that will end well.
     
  15. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    Well part of PauL's whole thing is expanding the Orange Light of Avarice from simply being "Mine" to including the concept of "Ours"...
     
  16. Buggy123

    Buggy123 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    True, but I don't know if he's gotten to the point where the Ophidian would willingly share one of her favorite things. While they're merged, sure, but otherwise I expect that she'll barge in before Hades even finishes judging OL.
     
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    Fouredged Experienced.

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    She just claims Hades and Hades suddenly has an orange snake wrapped around him like a lover in all his iconography.

    Problem solved.
     
  18. Ngamer11

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    Was rereading the WTR wiki, and noticed that the Super Young Team was in the characters page. They were offhandedly mentioned in Displaced. Did Paul ever follow upon his thought to look them up? It got me thinking of a future episode in Japan the Team could go on. Is that in the works Mr Zoat?
     
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  19. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He did, Superbat wound him up, he left. I might include them in an episode at some point but I don't have any concrete plans to do so at the moment.
     
  20. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    No he's not. I point out semicolon recommendations all the time. They're not part of his default writing style but I haven't seen any active opposition to them.
     
  21. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I put them in. Then I get told to take them out because I use them wrong.
     
  22. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    [​IMG]
     
  23. Jacen

    Jacen I am of no consequence.

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    Can someone help me find images for the formal uniform?
     
  24. LostPath

    LostPath Getting out there.

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  25. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Haven't really given it much thought, since I have no interest in doing anything with Will Payton. This Prince Gavyn might have some odd memories, but it probably won't come up in the story.
     
  26. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Gavyn died after his sister died and he and his wife became the rulers of Throneworld where his energy got beamed by a satellite into Will Payton.

    Since is sister is alive and well and ruling the Empire, it's too early for his death and his transformation into Will Payton.

    Easy enough to just butterfly that away thanks to whatever Paul and Gravy do if you don't want Gavyn to die.

    And if you do decide to include Will Payton, his origin works just fine without including Gravyn, just like the Flash's origin works just fine without Mopee or the lightning bolt being a time travelling Flash. Will Payton was hit by a satellite designed to capture and transmit solar radiation to trigger the metagene, which was shown to be successful in that it created the Power Elite, who each gained a superpower from the satellite, Will Payton was just unusual in that he got all the superpowers that process could grant.

    Also Eclipso claimed he manipulated the satellite to hit Will Payton to gain a superhost- one with the ability to shapeshift and hence hide his possession by Eclipso. Will didn't believe him, but...

    So it's not an either or situation, you could have Will Payton and Gavyn flying around and it would make sense, well at least as much sense as comic book universes tend to make. :)

    Once the metagene gets discovered, it would make perfect sense for a supersoldier program to activate the metagene gets started.
     
  27. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Neither of them are omniscient, and magic can trump their claims as shown before.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    My physical surroundings fade into meaninglessness as I extend my awareness into the Honden. While I don't precisely need to come here in order to view an individual's desires in detail, I hope… I twist myself and the representation of the place, and… I can view groups of people in terms of their interlocking collective desires. Or -more accurately- reach a place from which every other part of them is absent.

    Not 'what does the Empress want'. What does the Court want? What does the Crown Imperium want?

    Are their desires currently irreconcilable with my own?

    Ah, I see that Crown Imperium propaganda has made Amalak and Jarko the faces of the region's piracy. A little awkward for those in charge. It would require a degree of about-facing for them to openly treat with either of them, and… The more idealistic Imperials would resist because it would mean that vile people were 'getting away with it' and the expansion-minded Imperials wouldn't like it because it would mean accepting a definite border in that direction. I'm.. not seeing a total opposition to an unoccupied border region, but-.


    "Oh, are-? You busy?"

    And back in the room. For a moment my body looks like a wire frame construct, only… The rest is there, but… Pushed.. back? Faded into the background, perhaps. Then the orange fades and I'm left with my material body and the baggy trousers and dashiki I was wearing. The sleep did me the world of good, but now I'm reduced to hanging around the palace. Yes, I can keep an eye on Vega from here if I have to but I was sort of assuming that the Empress and Co. would be deliberating and coming to a conclusion relatively quickly.

    The man watching me curiously from the edge of my circle is… He looks like a human superhero. He's wearing a blue skin tight costume with a yellow star insignia, though the shepherd's crook he's carrying is a discordant element. His costume is further accessorised by yellow bracers and swimming goggles, though those are currently pushed up to rest on his forehead.

    "Oh, not especially."

    Prince Gavyn. The Empress's brother and heir apparent. Narrowly avoided summary execution after his father's death, something Crown Imperium tradition apparently mandates when a new monarch ascends to the throne. Did some superheroing in a place which doesn't really have a tradition of that sort of thing, becoming a scourge of pirates and corrupt courtiers alike.

    A decent bloke, as far as I know. Not entirely sure why they've stopped trying to execute him. Maybe they had an attack of good sense?

    "What can I help you with?"

    He looks out of the window of the quarters the Empress was kind enough to provide for me, taking in the early morning light. "If you're not occupied, I thought that I might show you the capital? Do you ride, or do you prefer to fly?"

    "I usually teleport." I stand, switching to light armour. "I have been meaning to go back to flying more, but I'm afraid that I don't want to leave the palace in case her Imperial Majesty wishes to speak to me."

    "Oh yes? Something about Vega, isn't it?"

    "I'm trying to persuade her to radically change her foreign policy regarding the region between the Crown Imperium's border and the Vega Trench."

    He nods, smiling. "Because Amalak's not half as bad as we've been telling everyone he is, and Jarko has so much popular support that the only way we'll ever get Asryx back is to make him governor."

    "Among other things."

    "So what's your interest?"

    "Civilised behaviour is in everyone's interest. And… I'm a little concerned that I'm becoming too accustomed to killing."

    "Killing in general, or killings you perform yourself?"

    "Both. After I destroyed the Citadel, there were a handful I had as thralls. I… Put them in front of some automated guns and then removed my control. Most of them charged me and died when they remembered that I used my control to have them aid me in destroying Citadel Complex. I could have left them under my control. I could have marooned them. I… Didn't."

    He shakes his head. "I'm… Sorry, but I'm not sure why it bothers you. If you were unaccustomed to killing, I'd.. offer some reassurance about the.. necessity of it. But it's clearly not that."

    "It's more the fact that it doesn't bother me. Killing a person is a big deal. So while I can see the utility of being able to kill people without feeling bad about it, I don’t want to become too used to it."

    "I don't think I've killed enough people to have become that accustomed to it. Then again, I grew up knowing that fighting and enforcing justice with lethal force would be one of my roles in Imperial society. Whereas you've been a Lantern for..? Two years, your book said?"

    "I'm sorry if this is a sore point, but didn't you know that you were going to be killed-?"

    "It's…" He shakes his head. "My father was in good health. Past his prime, yes, but fit and well. I expected to have decades more. Time enough to make my mark. Perhaps even die nobly without forcing an executioner to dirty their blade. And Clryssa could have been killed, leaving me as the heir."

    "Why do your people do that?"

    "To prevent civil wars. There was a period in our history when… Different members of the dynasty routinely fought it out when their royal parent died. It used to be the rule that the rulers should only have one heir, then the royal family was assassinated, so… Now there's a spare."

    "If you're trying to talk me into giving you a ring-."

    "It would probably make the royal court more comfortable, but... Clryssa has to marry at some point, and it would probably make things easier if I wasn't around. Not that she doesn't love me, you understand, but-."

    "There's a cultural expectation that you're a threat, even if you wouldn't ever do anything in that direction."

    He nods. "I've tried to avoid being open about my views on… Anything, to try and avoid looking like I'm trying to undermine her in any way. Taking a commission in the navy or marines is out because that might make it look like I'm trying to gain support in the military." He taps his staff on the ground. "This was a lot easier when no one knew who Starman was."

    "So you want a role? A job?"

    "I'll take what I can get. And I'm sure that my wife would like me out of the house and back to doing something useful."

    On a practical level, he's not a terrible choice. Him joining the Corps would allow me to set his terms of reference, but the Court would accept his reports from the regions he was monitoring. He grew up in a civilised region but is aware that it is far from perfect. But I can hear it in his tone, in the lack of an orange light resonance. He doesn't want this. Oh, he might have decided that it's for the best for all concerned, but-.

    Huh. A curious thing to be on the surface.

    My eyes narrow. "Prince Gavyn, what are you afraid of?"

    "You did just say that you were afraid that you were finding killing too easy. Forgive me for being a little-."

    "It's not that." I'm having trouble seeing details. It's all… Blurry. Something someone who knew certain advanced mental or spiritual techniques might pull off. The Crown Imperium doesn't have a native magical tradition, there were maybe a handful of Euphorian magicians off their planet when the shield went up… "What are you hiding?"

    "I don't know-."

    I reach out to Karna, but… No, no, everything's still there, the mass of conflicting desires for conflict and safety. Gordanians and karnans don’t feel all that different, not when viewed with such imprecision. Alright, then what-?

    And then I suddenly know how Obi-Wan felt when Alderaan was destroyed. Like a.. chunk of colour just vanished, a particular way of viewing the universe, or wanting. Where was it where was…

    It.

    "I see."

    I'm too late, but I raise my right hand to my forehead anyway

    step out

    and then look down upon the now-molten surface of Wombworld.
     
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  29. Queshire

    Queshire Not too sore, are you?

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    Which one is Wombworld again?
     
  30. Simonbob

    Simonbob Really? You don't say.

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    I see that politics remains nasty.

    I....

    No, that about sums it up.
     
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