With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Who is Metallica and where did she come from?

 

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Just a moment.

 

Which I'm sure will be the easiest thing in the world. All he has to do is go up to one of the warring factions of Apokolips who are vying for power and demand a Fatherbox to restore his rightful place as heir to Darkseid. And I'm sure that faction will be overjoyed to do so and won't just murder him, either assuming he's a pretender or even if thinking he's real just kill him to permanently remove a rival power.

Or? He could steal one. From gods. While mortal. I'm sure that'll go swell.

 

That was the name taken by the metal-controller who on Earth 12 was a member of the Royal Flush Gang.

 

Fun if it's the town Zoat was born in.

 

There is... another possibility.

All past instances of someone being killed by the Sword have happened while they were actually on a planet. We've never seen what happens to someone who was killed in orbit.

I'd give it even odds that Grayven-50 might well respawn as a mortal... in orbit around Earth, at the same altitude as his ship was but not on the ship itself.

Which would pretty much resolve the problem inherently, I think.

 

The Omega effect has been shown to to just do its own thing if it really wants to, as some people have said, it once choose Lex flipping Luthor as its next bearer, so, yeah, it chosing ReneGrayven would not only make sense, as it would be far easier than moving around the universe seeking a new host.

I would still prefer if it went to Luthor here as well though, more plotlines for earth fifty later on that way.

 

Luthor-50 is dead. He was elected POTUS, got up to some evil schemes, killed The Flash-50, and got murdered by Superman-50. Now it's not impossible that the Omega Effect could either resurrect him or puppet his corpse, but it just feels... unlikely.

 

Earths arcane "circuity" goes further than the orbit of the moon (as per the research statements made in Paragon), thus Grayven is going to spawn on earth, who knows where, but he will spawn there.

 

Might be that Granny lost in a way that reversed her godly nature, since there's a lot of concepts that start with "So Grows-", with the first coming to mind being 'as the twig is bent, so grows the tree', which would have been impacting her followers/victims but also would have been undermined by the actual application (Granny didn't actually bend Renegraven in his youth, he reacted in a much more measured way).

Or it's possible that's something specific to Lashina.

 

Metallica

And I am Assuming this is Brute

Cue the Queen Music!

Cue the Sad Trombone!

 

It would be pretty funny if Human Grayven looked like unaltered Paul.

 

So, I thought I'd ask. What's going on with the .epub file(s)? The part 3 file is showing as having not been updated since last year and the part 1 and 2 files aren't showing as having been updated since then either. Did the person doing that just lose interest or not have the time anymore or something?

 

Well, unless he respawns as a mortal in orbit around Earth with an OL ring, since we know where that leads...

 

Cue the local Paul finding his "clone" and dealing with him.

 

So I've finally caught up and since I don't care about Renegade the last thing that happened for me was the whole Vega thin and while that happened weeks ago for everyone else I'm just gonna vent a little

Blake is an asshole, he claims that he only did thing the way he did in order to grant the New Vega Alliance their founding myth but the first time we see him in that episode clearly shows that he possesses a desperate desire to be needed and wanted so the real reason he did it so that he could usurp OL as Vega's residen superhero and even if that isn't true it would've cost him absolutely nothing to contact OL to let him know what was happening and just saying "we don't need your help" or even just asking for two or three lanterns to run prisoner rescue

Also, I'm a little surprised that OL hasn't called up the sisters for insubordination and while I doubt that Paul is petty enough to sever contact with the New Vega Alliance I can definitely see him being far less friendly to them know than he was before both because they lied to and manipulated him making him run around trying to fix a problem that had been fixed months ago, in the process distracting him from doing stuff that could actually help, and because before he was of the mindset that Vega was his responsibility, now he's going to be thinking "you can clearly deal with this stuff by yourself and you're obviously not above manipulating me so if you want my help then I'm getting something out of it from you"

 

Wrong Klarion.

 

They may not have followed the thread to QQ.

 

Eastbourne? What would be the point of being corrupt in Eastbourne?

Zod, educate this fool.

Technically he was never convicted of murder. At the moment he just killed him.

Probably something like that.

The SI wasn't Vega's resident superhero. He hardly went back for six months.

It isn't insubordination if you don't give them orders. The SI felt that Orange Lanterns he picked because he liked the sort of things they wanted would work better if left to their own devices. He's now reconsidering this policy.

 

Fair enough but he's definitely the biggest cause of change in Vega in decades, if not centuries, so while Blake was a hero of legend for most modern Tamaraneans who ultimately failed OL is a modern day hero who saved them from slavery, avenged them against the Gordanians, overthrew the Citadel and saved their previous hero

Adam is pretty much living in OL's shadow, if he wants to fulfill his desire to be needed then he has to prove that he's just as good, if not better than, him which means not involving him in his operation against the Psions

I'd argue that not only partaking in a genocide against an extremely advanced enemy that could retaliate against your corps but also hiding from and misleading your superior to prevent him from finding out is at best insubordination and at worst going AWOL

 

Originally I hated Renegade (e.g., the Thangarian ship episode was just boring) and I started skipping those. However, based on recommendations from others I gave him another go and Renepaul has really grown as a character and characters around him have developed as well. Surprisingly to me I have come to care (almost) as much about Renepaul as OL. YMMV, but it might be worth your time to reread the Renegade chapters.

Insubordination implies that the 'superior' need to be seen to be in control. OL is enlightened so his need for control (and he is a bit of a control freak) will be over needs strong Orange Lanterns who are following their own desires, sane and effective. However, I agree that he'll feel they can deal with their own stuff now and may ask more from them than he used to.

Also, I largely agree with your view of Blake. He could have and should have handled this differently.

 

As mentioned above, you're skipping what is currently arguably the better side of the story.

 

Wrong.

Here is where Teekl is declared to be from Witch World.

Here is where the witch hunter who came to Earth was declared to be from Witch World.

So Klarion's familiar and the witch hunters, who include his very own sister, come from Witch World.

Which means Klarion is from Witch World.

 

Like I said in my other post, I'd argue that going out of your way to help commit genocide against a third party that your corps has no official stance against without even informing the corps of such a plan, and in fact going out of your way to hide it from them until it was too late, is at best insubordination and at worst counts as going AWOL

It isn't a perfect comparison but imagine if two marines overseas decided to work alongside a local militia to exterminate a group that the US has no official relations with and went out of their way to hide that from a visiting general because they thought he might stop them

Fair enough, though I don't know if I can be bothered reading basically the whole story again and trying to keep all the different characters straight when I already struggle with the ones just in paragons timeline

 

Did you know that mental patients can have seriously aggressive reactions when their delusions are shattered?

Just a helpful tidbit

 

No, I am here. But I started a new job last year and I have much less time.

On top of that since Mr Zoat came to QQ I have to redo everything. Including the first 2 seasons

Every time I think to do the epub, I remember that and... well... I get discouraged

 

I believe the Pigeon of war had it on him when OL was walking through heaven

 

IMO any comparison to military language or norms is just wrong when it comes to Paul's approach to the OLC. He knows any OLC members can go off and do whatever they want to; and the role he takes on is mostly mentoring. He finds ways to link their desires to his (Paul's) broader goals. It's not command and control, it's individually tailored personal/skill/spiritual development programs.

 

Except there clearly is a structure to the OLC, if one that far looser than any real world military, Dox is in charge, Paul is second in command, there's a clear command structure with the Controllers and whilst your free to pursue your own desires you also represent the Corps, meaning that any enemy you make is their enemy as well unless they're willing to give you up, so you have to keep them up to date on what you're using the power given to you by them for

And you especially don't hide from, lie to and manipulate the second highest ranking and most powerful member of the Corps because an outsider convinced you to

If it wasn't the princesses that had done this I could see Paul taking their rings off them