With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Did you just link TVTropes? Welp, there goes my productivity for the afternoon.

 

Someone else linked it earlier already. They pointed out that Harley is the image for the trope for sleeping with the professor.

 

Paul being so consistently upset at people doing to him the exact same thing he has done to others in the past never ceases to be amusing.

 

Im sorry but independence in sector lanterns is great and all but genocide should be one of those things thats clearly stated to be SENT UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.

 

It has been a long while since I followed the comics. There is a reason many of us follow your story more.

The Fan-fics are a serious attempt at storytelling, the regular cannon is a parody comic of a work from a by-gone era.

 

You missed the point of the Collective.

Each of the individual puffballs "is a living power ring."

They aren't effectively one green lantern that can be in over a billion places, rather they are effectively over a billion green lanterns that share a mind.

That is why their sector is the safest sector in the universe.

Anyway, I tracked down the story, and I was right about the rings thing, they don't have any.

The Glow is transmitted from the Queen through the same mechanism that the Collective shares thought.

Also, the Collective also has a collective mind. The Queen absorbs the minds of beings it eats. Which is why TO-T-U-K fed himself to the Queen.

So the Collective has the will to use the Glow because TO-T-U-K had the will to use the glow.

If TO-T-U-K hadn't fed himself to the Queen, the Collective would still only be of animal intelligence.

 

You seem to be forgetting that Paul isn't the leader of the Orange Lantern Corp.

 

He's above the sisters though. The fact that they kept him out of the loop because they figured he would stop them from doing what they did makes it a clear-cut case of insubordination.

 

Actually he's not above the Sisters, he's to the side of them.

 

Except as Illustres he's second in command and is also immediately in charge of whatever OLC operation that's being conducted wherever he goes unless Dox or one of the Controllers are there and I highly doubt the sisters contacted Dox to let him know since if they had he would've insisted on sending Lanterns there to get some battle experience as Paul said

Except that there's a clear difference between this and the Nabu situation, which is what I assume you're referring to

In the Nabu situation Paul never lied to those that trusted him nor sent them on a wild goose chase to waste their time, he didn't commit any acts of insubordination, he only didn't tell Diana, or the League in general, about his plan because they had already made their stance on the matter clear and even if they didn't try to stop him or rat him out it would still mean someone who was constantly in Nabu's presence knowing about the plot and he did everything he could to limit casualties

Whereas here all of his supposed allies in Vega, including two of his own Lanterns, worked together to mislead him so he didn't realise what was happening, the princesses specifically didn't report their taking part in the operation to their superiors, the only reason Paul was left out of the operation was so that Blake could claim that they'd done it without OLC assistance, despite the fact that still had two Orange Lanterns helping them, and even then it's arguable that he really only did it because he wants to be needed in Vega so he had to prove himself to be just as good as Paul and b cause of Blakes actions at least 11,000 people who didn't need to die did

 

what? at best the sisters could be considered honour guard (although I tend to think that they are more regular orange lantern mooks in terms of rank) and paul is second in command subordinate only to Drox. That's like saying an NCO is to the side of the deputy secretary of defence.

 

Sorry. *isn't actually sorry*

You thought it was someone else, but it was me! TheMidnightRook!

 

Except Honor Guard aren't actually higher ranked then Sector Lanterns.

The difference is that they have authority in all sectors instead of just the sector they are assigned to.

So technically speaking Paul has equal authority to the Sisters.

 

She might not have fallen for the Joker here, but she still the potential to go insane.

 

the thing they keep going back and forth on (in universe, even), is if she genuinely slept her way into her position, or she genuinely passed/was competent on her own merits -despite- doing the above- at times its not -just- inconsistent writers, but an in-universe uncertainty as to wither she has occasional moments of insight through dumb luck, or its her actual experience/knowledge peeking from under the cracked surface of her psyche.......

 

I have no idea where you're getting this from, we saw in just the last episode that Honour Guard Lanterns have authority over other Lanterns

And even if they didn't that doesn't necessarily mean that that's also how the OLC would work, we've seen numerous Orange Lanterns address Paul as a superior officer and when Paul makes the deal with Dox to from OLC he makes it pretty clear that Dox would be the number one and he would be second in command

 

Remember, just because Paul says or thinks something doesn't make it true.

 

Remember, just because Vaermina says or thinks something doesn't make it true.

 

Remember, just because it was explicitly stated in story doesn't mean you can't throw a hissy fit about Zoat not making your Waifu act like you want him to.

Remember Vaermina, if you want to tap Paul that bad, Zoat is both real and possibly bisexual so you're all set.

 

.... if nothing else, i will -not- be suppressed if Dox utterly flips his shit over this (in privacy)- he was....twitchy over some of OL's impulsive/seemingly impulsive behavior alone- THIS is the sort of thing that would -irk- him enough to start bleeding red into his text again >.<

...maybe they could bond over this?

... damage-control/ low-key retaliation-wise, id kinda like to see Paul/the OLC in general respond by actively HELPING distributing the news of the successful operation- but heavily emphasizing the presence of two combat-veteran Orange Lanterns to passively undermine the intended message-
it wouldn't harm anyone (aside from the ego's of those involved), or directly harm this little confederation, but it would effectively,and neatly scupper the mythology-building in a way that would be almost impossible to respond with without the attempted exclusion's ACTUAL motivation being blatantly obvious- and OL has the means/potential connections to spread the story far and wide before the alliance can get their boots on-
no to minimal chance of causing meaningful harm, it -would- get under certain
skins- and it would be accurate anyway- the best kind of petty revenge~

what are they going to do? complain that their attempt to craft a constructed "we saved outselves from the psions because nobody else would"narrative at the cost of the lives of their own sailors was derailed by someone spreading accurate infomation?

 

Remember, that Paul literally founded the Orange Lantern Corps and is the single most experienced Orange Lantern in the galaxy so even if it hadn't been expressly stated that he's the second in command in terms of pure seniority he absolutely is

 

Eh, he'd probably agree with them in my opinion.

 

depends- did they ASK for,and recieve authorization to participate in a major operation?
if they DID get the green light from higher command maybe, but my understanding is they essentially randomly ran off and got the Corps involved in local galactic politics on a major scale with zero authority or authorization on a whim, and actively decieved their chain of command as to their actions- Dox has made a visible (color) effort to not go off at paul for doing something semi-impulsive, but still an arguably lesser provocation at LEAST once...

at the very least, if you're going to help facilitate a complete shift in the political makeup of an entire region of the galaxy, your boss/high command -NEEDS- to know, even if its just to plan damage control/ start recalculating their strategic planning- the fact that the Psions desperately NEEDED killing isnt even a factor...
and the entire situation is WORRYING on entirely another level-if they're being psychologically affected by their rings dispite the design adjustments/best snek taking up residence in the central battery, this could have serious consequences to the success/future of the corps in general barring further redesigns/even more restricted recruiting critera that bar even more potential candidates from selection...

 

A space is needed.

That's probably the end of the episode, I wonder what interlude we'll be getting?

 

It is kinda funny that, even in a low-fear enviroment, a power ring can still easily put a person back together.

Not unbelievable, mind you. It's more unbelievable that no one else can. Come on people, it's just a bunch of wet nanotech. Lots of people use dry nanotech, and they had to design that from scratch. You can figure out how to put together some wet nano.


Corrections:

"than" instead of "that".

Missing a space.

 

Let's slap together a Lazarus pit with New God technology! What could go wrong?

 

Wait, who are they talking about? I'm pretty sure that the Lords won't be joining stormwatch, but I don't know anyone but John and Shayera who could be considered new parents that Richard would know about.

 

Spoiler: corrections

this is probably wrong

 

Oh-ho, this is something I'd not known. Kanto was basically wooing Lucrezia Borgia? So the Renegade is reviving her now?

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Thank you, best AI Snark.

I thought there were images of Lucrezia? Or am I misremembering from Assassin's Creed games?

Ow.

Heh, a fun reminder of where Kanto learned his courtly Swagger.

Hmm, so blase about it. Who in Renegade's timeline knows the comic book thing (that he knows of, at least?)

I'm sure you can make adjustments afterwards...

Bets on her having already suspected something?

Ah, Renegade. Working your Godly ways of Acquisition.

It's in the inflection, I expect.

Yes, not so brave about that, is he?

"Though I doubt that many have the required lack of squeamishness to do so..."

And so tender with her, even now. Amazing there's no trace of violet in him...

Oh, dear, a kludge of human tech, magic and New God tech? There's no text big enough for the kaboom if this goes badly.

I'm sure he can keep her from hurting someone.

Hoo, boy. Murphy's phone is ringing as we speak...

Indeed. This Batman is the second-most abused example of memetic Bat-god preptime fuckery (The ninteies/noughties version is number one).

Heh, romance in the air or is Diana-50 too straight?

Ah, Stormwatch get their own Carrier? How appropriate.

Seriously, though, I foresee the whole Kanto situation backfiring somehow. I'm sure we'll find out, though...

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