With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

what about hub city?

 

She isn't. She's a spoiled trust-fund baby who has successfully bounced from one wealthy, powerful sugar-daddy protector to another, never having to take responsibility for her own shady past and somehow thinking she has the right to lecture others about arrogance. Bruce Wayne could do so much better than her.

 

Bruce falling in love with and marrying Talia (especially this version of Talia) is one of the things that really bothers my SoD, but maybe it's canon for YJ and I've forgotten.

 

Thank you, corrected.

It's canon for everything she's in. They even put it in the film.

 

One of the funny things about being so aware and sure of your actions and motivations that you're nearly immune to mind control is, well, that you don't regret your actions. Not a whole lot to apologize about, if you are, say, and do exactly what you want to and are satisfied with all of it.

 

Canon that he falls in love with her, sure. Him marrying her is not canon for everything that she's in (or most of the stuff that she's in, I think), and that's the sticking point, given that Bruce has had a lot of significant others over his run (which is hardly unusual for a major comic book character, of course).

 

In this case, it’s partially her coming to Bat-daddy for resources after Head-daddy died.

 

That's what she gets out of it, not a reason for Bruce to marry her.

 

He's a loony, she's a loony. Together they'll make loony children. It's a fairy tale marriage for Gotham City.

 

He gets a shiny rich trophy wife for his Bruce persona that both knows how to act Rich, and is more into Batman than Bruce.

 

... while I don't see that as a good enough reason, it is at least a reason that is fairly plausible.

 

She left her dad way before he died.

I think people are too quick to dismiss Talia personal feelings, she is trying really hard and is doing a lot better these days, she didn't jump towards bruce when her dad died. She eloped towards her beloved and abandoned her dad when she meet her sister and she learned her father abandoned his previous family in a nazi concentration camp.

 

It hasn't even been two yeare since she helped her father in his attempt to destroy all cities on earth, like their plan was very stupid, but she was still okay with killing like 3 billion people, that would have been way worse than the holocaust, leaving because a sister she never knew suffered under him doesn't really make me like her more.

Sure, shes doing more good now than she would inside a prison, but that doesn't really make her likable.

 

Unless he wants to give one.

 

She got the talk (dad is a nutter) from a person she was willing to listen, sometimes that is all it takes.

Second I don't want anything bad to happen to her because Spiderman and Batman get fucked enough by editorial mandated suffering. Batman is happy and Talia should be in the fast track to making Damian Wayne, I just want the bat dad to have a better life and be happy he kinda deserves a break from tirelessly working to save Gotham.

 

I get that, and I agree.

I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m generally definitely not In the pro-Talia camp, but if Batman gets to be even a slightly less broken person because of her, I think it’s worth it. It’s not the relationship I’d think is best for him, but it’s happened (and neither Batman’s family nor his friends seem to have taken any serious steps to intervene/discourage it) and now we’re stuck with it, but at this point in the story breaking it up would probably do more harm than good. And really, it’s not the worst option he could have ended up with.

As for Talia... her escaping the consequences of her past actions does rub me the wrong way, yes, but right now she’s at least not committing any more crimes and is apparently actually doing some good. Yes, it’s not perfect, but it’s acceptable, to me personally at least.

 

evacuate the population, tear the place down and start over.
Hub city makes Gotham look like Metropolis

 

Catwoman is more his kind of loony, dress like a animal and runs around a city at night doing dangerous things.

Pretty sure Selina could do that just as well.

 

Batman marrying anyone who can actually connect with him is good. The comics mess up his love life too much already. That batman will marry selina event thing was the straw that broke the camels back. I had hoped Dc was going to finally change someting about batman and let it stick but nope.

 

The main thing that Talia has and Selina doesn't is passion. Talia is just as committed to Bating as he is. Selina isn't. Selina's also nothing like as well educated, and for all her skills isn't as intelligent.

 

I'd just sum up the whole thing as a, "forget it Jake, it's Gotham."

 

OL: "Bored now."
*Fliesteps away*

 

Sorry, but I just can't see Talia as being that seriously committed to "Bating". Far more committed to Bruce? Yes, but not to being a costumed crime fighter.

 

New Gods don't have to have a portfolio. Lowlies are New Gods, after all.

That's not really the essence of bat-ing in this context, I don't think. She IS committed to persistently fighting against the evil, corrupted elements in Gotham. That doesn't strictly require being a costumed crime fighter; that's a contextually appropriate means of pursuing her passion, not her passion in and of itself.

 

Gotham kicking Paul's ass got a good chuckle from me.

 

Gotham-based depression is a serious affliction.

 

I'm of the opinion that Talia is committed to being committed. She's all about "The Cause".

Couple that with the fact that all she has ever really known is loyaling working for "The Cause" as directed by a Strong, central figure in her life (Her Father first, now Bat-Wayne) and it makes sense how easily she'd slip into the batlife.

You're probably right, she doesn't give a shit about batting. But she gives a shit that Bruce gives a shit, and that's about all she needs.

Given that Batman shown to regularly refuse both food and rest (a trope I fucking hate almost as much as Batman. Seriously, the body CANNOT function without fuel. I don't give a fuck how "determined" you are), I can't really see a sex life even being a thing.

 

Lowlies arent New Gods, they're the same species as New Gods, but their souls that arent awakened.

 

why? why would he choose talia over Selina? and I was wondering if YOU have any plans for hub city?

EDIT: is barbatos fucking with paul?

 

Talia asked him. Talia has always been interested in a serious relationship. Selina... Isn't, really. If you want more detail on her perspective that I suggest my porn story.

No.

I'm sorry, you appear to have neglected to add text to your edit.