With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

It’s confirmed that there’s no Barbados, since that’s post New 52, and stuff Zoat doesn’t like.

As for Selina VS Talia, it’s explained above: passion for following a cause vs being an independent woman, and better education/ experience.

Selina might be the better romantic match, but Batman isn’t a romantic person.

 

I was gonna ask if barbatos was fucking with paul but mquz said he doesn't exist in this continuity? I don't remember why you excluded new 52?

 

For limited periods of time, the body is perfectly capable of tapping its own fuel reserves. I speak from experience that once I'm sufficiently focused on something it's easy to forget to eat or sleep. My body demands atonement from me afterward, but 2-3 days of this is certainly possible with minimal ill effects.

Where exactly do you draw the line, though? Lowlies understand God Speech. Parademons clearly have at least some level of divine power, and the Furies have even more. And at least in Universe 16-Z, the New Gods that Grayven awakened don't pick up a portfolio right away, so in the absence of some clear guiding direction there's no real guarantee that they must develop a portfolio.

Because he thinks it's a stupid train wreck.

 

Yes, for limited periods of time.

However, I don't know if I've ever seen a panel with Batman actually eating, or resting. It almost always goes with Alfred saying "Sir, you haven't eaten more than scraps, or slept for days."

Only for Batman to be all "Fuck off, I'm batman."

Then Batman will rush out and perform extremely physically demanding actions for hours upon hours at a time.

It's fucking stupid. From an author who is trying to...what? Make him look more "Badass" by ignoring biological functions? Is batman somehow less hardcore if he eats a fucking sandwich?

You know what's even more annoying about the not eating or sleeping thing? Authors always feel the need to point out that they aren't.

Huge battle, intense action for hours. Protag slowly pushes plate of food away from them because "I'm not hungry/I'm queasy from the violence."

Then protag rushes out for another couple hours of higher than Olympic levels of physical activity.

I ran across a MHA fic where the MC hardly eating was literally a character trait. Over and over it was pointed out that he basically weighs about 90 pounds, his ribs are both quite visible, and characters who touch him remark on it quite often.

But he never eats more than a bite or two because "I'm not hungry." Apparently he's so traumatized and emo that his belly is already mostly full of his own tears and sadness.

Then he rushes out, sprints about twenty city blocks and scales the largest skyscraper in the city by stabbing knives into the building.

It's stupid on a level that legitimatly pisses me off. I'd like to slam the author's face into their own desk. Because, really? How fucking stupid are you? Where is he getting the energy for all this shit? Absorbing it straight out of the moron dimension?

And again, it wouldn't be quite so bad, if they didn't feel the need to KEEP POINTING IT OUT.

 

You'd be surprised how far past its limits the human body can be pushed, I mean sure he'll drop eventually but he'd last maybe just under a week without food and drink.

 

There's something known as the "survival rule of threes": Three weeks without food, three days without water, three hours without shelter, three minutes without oxygen.

But the key word for all of those is survive. You go two days without water, especially somewhere hot, and you end up surviving in a hospital with a saline drip. You go two weeks without food, and you'll look like a famine victim. And you'll have all the strength of one, too.

Batman not sustaining himself is stupid, because outside of crisis situations he's just making himself less capable when he forgoes food/water/sleep. Sure, maybe with the indomitable Bat Willpower™ he could keep going anyway, but you can't willpower away muscle fatigue unless you happen to have a green ring on your finger.

 

No. I actually wouldn't.

See, I actually train. I actually fight, and compete.

I've had intensely strenuous training session, and harrowing matches, where I have hit the wall. Where I know just what to do, see a perfect opening, but guess what? There is nothing left in the tank.

Limbs feel completely empty, especially my dominant arm. Inside of my knees feel hollow (Best way to describe it), My stomach is in knots, can't hardly catch breath, and most importantly....no longer have the strength to do the things I'm trying to do. Mentally, all you want to do is go home.

Sweat pouring off of your face like someone turned on the tap. Vomiting a real possibility, and all you can do is lay on the mat and try to breath. Can't get up, even if you wanted to, because your legs might as well be noodles at this stage.

There are few things more frustrating than trying to go even further beyond, and your body simply won't do it.

Now, I'm not the perfect peak human like Batman apparently is. At the same token, he's shown going DAYS without food or rest while STILL engaging in incredibly strenuous activity, actively REFUSING both food and rest when he has the chance, to say nothing of all the injuries he accrues during all of this. Furthermore, I haven't suffered 1/16 of the injuries he has.

It's fucking stupid. Don't even try to defend it...and what's worse? Batman himself, with his super genius, can plan anything with perfection brain....SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

And finally, it's not just that he's not eating/sleeping. It's that he's not doing any of that...and then rushing out for hours and hours and hours of strenuous COMBAT. I.E He's actively burning energy that he is NOT replacing. UGH!

THANK YOU! *throws up hands*

 

Not quite true, Selina mostly just wants to be at least as important as The Mission/being Batman rather than consistently take a back seat to it. Talia on the other hand is happy to play second fiddle to the cause of others because that is how she was raised.

 

Which film is that? There've been... several, and the only one I can think of that had Talia was The Dark Knight Rises, where she betrayed him and he ended up disappearing with Selina.

 

Can he say his name now?

 

I imagine he's having the ring play his name, like he's done in the past.

 

Zoat may wanna include the ring portion or have his name glow Orange.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Wow, this is almost nostalgic. Making equipment for the team.

Also so many Lanterns!

Also also, his interaction with Ghia'ta is very interesting. If both sides are empaths than what you feel becomes part of what you communicates. Like having an extra face that only two people in the room are aware of.

 

The name of the chapter is cleared a reference to spirited away, but... a sprit is a diagonal mast spar. If it were a verb form of sprite, which indicate fairy shenanigans, it'd be Sprited Away, not Spritted Away.

 

Oh, this is gonna get funky. For the less expansive vocabularies: Sprit is an obscure term for a sprout or shoot (according to Google). Not, as it appears, a mispelled Studio Ghibli reference
(EDIT: Apparently it's not 'spritted'. Welp.)

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

One last poke to the ego, for the lulz.

Gotham in general is trying.

Kind of a giveaway for arriving superheroes, yes.

<Rubs hands together> Break out the popcorn, boys, girls and assorted others...

Ah, rookies...
Correction: 'don't recognise the'

What? In all honesty, Earth is the perfect training ground for Lanterns. There's never any shortage of unusual scenarios.

Oof, kinda rude, OL.

Just look at all the human-hybrids running around Earth.

Show her he's not completely marinated in Want. Good show.

Ah, the one from a long line of local Lanterns. She's going to have a chip on her shoulder about proving herself worthy, isn't she?

They're right, this really needs some indication about how he's saying his name...

Probably not often enough, I bet. Though not through any fault of their own...

Sounds about average for a Comic Book universe.

Wow, associating with OL has really improved her vocabulary. Can you imagine canon Artemis saying 'proprioception'?

Practically a Common Sense interrupt moment.

Do you want the Predator turning up? Because that's how you get the Predator showing up.

I can picture the annoyed expression. Nice.

What have you been teaching her, Jordan?

Hmm, possible cross-dimensional romance or just politeness?

Oh, they are going to get an education here on Earth. Could be two of the most crazy-prepared lanterns ever...

Well, this is shaping up to be interesting. I doubt the other meaning of Sprit (a nautical term for part of a ships' sail-rigging) is going to be pertinent... I certainly hope we don't get Arisia crushing on Jordan, though, that was skeevy in the comics.
And apparently the title is 'sprited'. Someone going off with the fairies perhaps? Are we about to see the Maltusian Leprechauns appear?

 

Be kind of interesting if he's so disassociated from it now he can say it without actually thinking it, but I doubt that's what it is.

 

More casual disrespect from Paul to Batwoman.

Wonder how may actually listened to her. They probably think Zamaron 50 is crazy for giving rings to mortals.

Learn how to accept other emotions. You'll thank him in the future.

Bet he doesn't like remembering that moment. He really needs to learn that when Paul says something, he almost always means it.

Wonder how Jordan is going to explain this to his girlfriend. "I swear there is nothing between us. Even if she is basically a better version of you in every way."

 

It's supposed to be pronounced 'Sprite ed'.

She does do an English Masters, so... Yes, eventually.

I don't know. Carol -14 wouldn't have a problem with him flying off to do superheroic stuff, but Carol 16 was mostly annoyed about him keeping it secret and the Star Sapphire stuff. She's actually pretty reasonable.

 

Man... I just saw Spirited Away for preety much the first time this morning. More like the second time... I saw pieces of it as a young child and hated it (I had persistent nightmares about being kidnapped by a witch and forced to work, and it was my first anime / Miyazaki film).

 

Maybe spell it "Sprited" then? There is an existing verb for that and it does have a past tense.

 

Maybe Zoat's just a fan of the soft drink?

 

Changed.

 

One of the reasons that the 'insane' (meaning 'non-evil') ex-Weaponer SI I've been thinking about plans to take his Blue Lantern recruits to Earth to train them. Not necessarily Earth-16, though it is somewhat inspired by YJ and WTR.

EDIT: He really doesn't like being called a Weaponer, BTW. He'll accept 'Mad Scientist' instead, but he prefers 'Engineer.'

 

Hey Mr Zoat I was rereading the last Grayven episode and here:

Kara is wondering if he gave Eliza the Garrick formula, but later during their date:

she 'realises' it again.

 

Is bat woman getting kidnapped? She never came through the zeta tube, we know some of those are under surveillance by da light and Paul did just break her cover...

 

Paul checked for surveillance when they went through, and found her, so it’s probably not a problem. I’m assuming this is because she’s technically not on the league.

 

Yeah, me too man. Me too.

 

Should be "Weekdays" as a single word.

And... huh. Dame Carol is being somewhat close with Hal. Dunno what her relationship was with his counterpart per se... a quick wiki check says that 'Harold' was a janitor who was only at her company for some industrial espionage... so this seems a bit quick even for a Violet.