With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Fixed that for you.

 

I'm sure a few fans, like myself, are looking forward to Paul teasing Talia/Batwoman in the days to come. What I really want to see is her getting too caught up in her paranoia (I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, but it could be something less rational) such that someone else on the team calls her out. Maybe intentionally (like Superboy hearing her nearby) or maybe someone literally running into her due to her stealth suit.

There's no way she's up to par with Batman yet, is all I'm saying. She needs to get used to all the gadgets and overcome that mindset her father planted in her head.

 

Not exactly. In the first part she finds the timing suspicious, but Grayven doesn't admit to anything. In the second she's certain.

Batwoman isn't a member of the team.

Thank you, corrected.

She loves her fellow Star Sapphires, and thinks that the Green Lanterns are the local equivalent.

 

Shouldn't she be though? She's kind of new to being a hero, having been an accomplice to murder and providing murderers with financial assistance for most of her life.

 

She would find it demeaning and refuse

 

So based on the title, my money’s on Sheeda invasion, especially with all the discussion of them last episode. I’d imagine that the Paragon timeline may be better equipped to deal with them thanks to having the full Sivana family working on the problem, but I might not be giving the Renegade timeline enough credit, though I believe the Paragon anti-Sheeda efforts were larger in scale from far earlier. I’m not particularly interested in them as antagonists since my only knowledge of them comes from this fic, though I like the Witch Wprld characters well enough so it could be fun if they make a reappearance. I’d think Paragon-Morgaine le Fay and Vertigo comics Faerie would be plausible though less likely alternatives as antagonists.

Regarding Paragon’s correction of his title to Illustres, you’d think rookie and even experienced Green Lanterns would learn the organizational structure and authority figures of other Lantern Corps, even if the OLC may not have much regular contact with the GLC due to operating in near-Reach territory. Earth specifically can lay claim to being under the jurisdiction of an Illustres, which seems to be a big deal, even if not as impressive as the longer-running and larger-scope GLC (this also makes me want to see Paragon spar with an Illustres, though after Guy I’m not sure if that would actually be more challenging). I’m fine with Arisia’s defiance and stubbornness since those are classic Green traits, but it still looks a bit sloppy for both her and her mentor Hal- a bit like Renegade Aquaman punching Renegade a while ago without regard for the political implications, even if nothing came of it. I think GLs do have to be at least somewhat diplomatic as part of their duties, even if it’s not the primary trait/skill selected for by their Corps.

 

Of course, she showed Paul up and he can't accept that.

 

HAhAHAHA.

Oh, wait, you're serious? She took all night, presumably, to find the one guy.

The SI stopped and captured 4 separate small to large scale threats?...the assault on the mayor, the gang war, the underground sorceress, her master, and the clay lady? In one night? "Showed Paul up", You're funny.

 

I mean, a big part of the value of armor on a lantern is the fact that it's resistant to construct-bypassing techniques and serves an emergency backup to the rings if they are neutralized, which this doesn't. Still, violet light is pretty dang good.

Nice to see that progressing along.

...I guess calling him a 'demon robot magician' would be more accurate?
But yeah, Earth is hardcore.
Hope we see a little bit of research into the magic items in the coat pocket dimension.

 

"And to explain all that nonsense, if you look towards the core of the planet, you'll see this intense white Glow that indicates the presence of the Guardians being terrible liars, so let's just keep that one a secret between us."

 

To be fair, in this instance, she started it. Spying upon someone is hardly respectful.

But to the point, and this has been a sticking one for me my whole life, why does she deserve any respect? She's a murderer, accomplice to murder, and an attempted mass-murderer who got off without even a slap on the wrist because Bat-Daddy likes how she bounces on his dick and argues Prost afterwards or something.

I despise Batman, but were I in the universe, I would have to concede that he has put in the time, and done good work. Who the fuck is Talia? OL could literally punt her into orbit before she even knew what happened.

 

Then perhaps you should format it as "that was you" instead of "that was you".

 

The Guardians lied their arse off to protect the life entity. You want Paul to undo that very important work and put the planet under even greater threat than it already is?

Respect for her actions, no. Respect as a person, no. Respect as a character, yes.

She and Selina are the only two 'super'villains who're able to consistently make him think with his dick. He's the character noted for being obsessive as balls towards his lifestyle choice(?) iunno, and rarely takes time off to do anything else. Well, she's the anything else that he takes time off to do. She's more notable as a pivot point than a decent character, but she's hot and dangerous, and he likes that. It's his flaw.

 

I wonder if Arisia got a warning talk about Paragon; he does tend to undermine the certainties and beliefs of Green Lanterns who spend time around him, which isn’t helpful in maintaining their willpower.
It’s true that Jordan and Stewart appear to be more or less the same, and Guy actively and radically benefited from Paragon’s influence, but for a rookie Lantern, who I believe is still in basic training, that could be a different story.
Of course, just like graduating from an Ivy League is more prestigious and impressive than graduating from community college, any Lantern that does manage to deal with Earth’s dangers and the psychological risks of interacting with the Orange Illustres will probably be candidates of interest for higher-ranking GLC positions.

Regarding the discussion about Talia/Batwoman, my general apathy for anything Batman-related means I don't much care about her or commenting on her or most Gotham-related activity in general, though I do acknowledge Paragon should have at least waited to get Robin's input before doing anything because of his own lack of detective experience, so she does have a point, though her manner is abrasive (which describes Paragon and Renegade as well a lot of the time). It's understandable though, when you have a power ring and scry wards aren't an issue (overloading the ones in the last episode was a scene I've been waiting for for a long time; I believe he was always able to do it, it just required him to be aware there were wards in the first place and be willing to give away the fact that he (or at least someone) was scrying in the first place.)
And of course Talia loses a lot of respect from readers (or at least just me) just by virtue of her being an apparently unrepentant and fairly willing member of the millennia-old criminal organization that the person she's talking to is primarily responsible for eradicating.
She doesn't seem to demonstrate any awareness of Paragon's involvement in thwarting Doctor Gotham and the apparently unrelated exploits of the Religion of Crime, though presumably Robin would have notified her. I'm not sure if that would affect her interactions with him, though most likely not.
Actually, while a fun scene to open this episode, I'd presume Batman's equipment would by now include at least some form of scry ward that should be able to block Paragon's empathic vision and other forms of mystic detection.

 

In fairness....

The Green Lantern Corps is, what, millions of years old? Green Lanterns have saved probably uncounted trillions of lives including entire civilizations. In a bleak and uncaring galaxy they have been the only force that consistently insists that there should be some justice in the universe and that alien races should at least limit the horrors they inflict on each other. They are probably the most famous and respected institution in the galaxy.

The Orange Lantern Corps is less than a year old.

The OLC may be aping the forms of the GLC, but they've got a long, long way to go before anyone is going to give them the respect that the Greens have earned a million times over.

 

From context, I assume that's meant to be "say"

 

I swear to the non-existent god. If OL doesn't have his rings on his person, he seriously deserves a couple of kicks to the balls.

Just saying it now.

 

A space is needed between these lines.

*fastest

 

So! Should we expecting team to come across a secret villain moon base?

 

Also the trouble of carrying enough water to be useful, without loading yourself down to excess. At least, if they're not using Dolmen gates...

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Canis, you show-off!

Rude, Robin, rude.

Interesting composition. A solid variety of skill- and power-sets. And a few mixes and breaking of usual combinations. I bet Robin, KF and Aqualad are used to working together, which is why they're split up. No mention of general leadership in each group either.

And her becoming Supergirl still leaves the possibility of Kara Zor-el becoming Power Girl sometime down the road (A slim possibility right now, admittedly.)

Of course, your rings are fitted and ready, since you're not a fool. I expect resisting the urge to use them is vexing.

Surprised OL didn't make modification beforehand to adjust his teammate's gear. Or he did and their gear just looks basic?

So, she's basically in a skin-tight spacesuit. Moreso than the others, at least. I'm picturing 50's sci-fi cover art...

Cue level frown from OL. That's not what he meant.

Best not to mess with things like that until you have the safety of an atmosphere...

Heh, no time wasting here.

Overwatch, always good. Of course, OL could just have ring-scanned too, but training exercise.

In other words, no bending the rules. At least he's honest about it.

Admittedly, his Want for a ring in that situation would be so strong, the Ophidian would take notice. Or he could greed-port away, assuming that it doesn't require Rings at this point.

No shortcuts, Wallace. Jordan's made that clear enough...

He has a point, Robin will gloat mercilessly.

Ain't No Rule vs Obvious Rules Patch.

And he forgot to decelerate properly, didn't he?

And OL's paranoia pays off.

Heh. 'Winners write the history books', and all that.

Ah, low-gravity training on the Moon. Comoc Books, everyone. Let's hope the other teams aren't running into as much trouble with the rules.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

A reminder: the Starfire on the Team is known as Red Star in the Teen Titans cartoon. He's a young man from Russia with military training (and possibly active duty experience).

 

Yeah. The Starfire that we're more familiar with is in Vega, probably.

 

"What the heck is "Cerberus"?"

 

So, some options: the goddess Diana lived on the moon on Earth 2, Eclipso has his base on the moon, though since he eventually got retconned to be the part of god who preceded the Spectre, he might not be in this (Zoat thinks Spectre is too OP, and this kind of seems stupid, with him being the evil part of God that was got rid of).
With some of the other stuff in this fic, we might find Nightmare Moon here

 

I was thinking that they'd find Moon Nazis, so Alan can shout 'For America and Democracy!' and mention that it's just like old times.

 

He already had his anti-Nazi nostalgia moment when the League got mind controlled, remember?

 

Yeah, I just like the JSA's classic battlecry.

 

A line is fastest between spaces