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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    .... I feel stupid because I just got the ‘joke’ of this Alt-Jade. Her name plus being trained by Alan and taking on his surname is supposed to evoke the image of Alan’s canon daughter, Jennifer-Lynn Hayden who’s superhero name is Jade. All this Jade needs now is green skin and hair.
     
  2. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    Have you heard about the Mormons? They’re kind of traditional huge fans of harems and isekai. Same could be said for Muslims with the whole 99 virgins thing (Is that a real thing, btw? It just sounds racist, but I remember hearing it from my childhood.)

    All you have to do is think of the Abrahamic afterlife as an isekai, and suddenly everything clicks.

    Not quite sure what generation your grandfather was, but isekai harems are quite an old idea.
     
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  3. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    That Jade was in the Time Master world (I think), which was featured at about the same time as this first was.
     
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  4. Impatient_Quill

    Impatient_Quill I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Ignoring that morbid death/quantium immortality/after life tangent...

    Given we are getting this Alt-Jade, and pretty much every Alt-Paul/Dimention has had an alt-Jade (I think the version that ate demons to recharge didn't) Do you think we will be getting a Crisis of Infinite Jades or Crisis of Infinite Pauls?
     
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  5. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    You mean Time Trapper and yeah I think so. I wonder if this timeline is one of Time Trapper Paul’s experiments? His goal was to make the Mandate timeline independent so it isn’t trapped in a three day loop, so a relatively simple divergent timeline like this one would be a good place to start. That would explain why we haven’t seen this timeline’s Paul.
     
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  6. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I'm fairly sure that my grandfather wasn's a mormon or a muslim.
    Oh, she existed, but since he never joined the team and the League of Shadows didn't think that sending a baseline human after him was a sensible plan, they've never met.
    Yes.
     
  7. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    If you remember, Jade was revealed to be the Red Queen - a gender flipped Red King - all her versions are “offshoots” of one in particular that gets all their memories (maybe when they die?) - at the end of the Time Trapper episode.
     
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  8. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    Didn’t the Paul who ate demons to recharge get sent to a Marvel universe? Or am I remembering wrong?
     
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  9. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    You're conflating two.

    Marvel 199999 SI recharges using an infinity stone.
    Marvel 8096 SI uses the norn stones.
    The version from an unnumbered DC universe eats demons.
     
  10. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    We really do need to get a Master List for all these versions of the SI eventually...
     
  11. NeoDarklight

    NeoDarklight The Final Observer

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    So we’re getting both a Crisis of Infinite Pauls and a Crisis of Infinite Jades? Why do I get the feeling it’s the same event?
     
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  12. Siskulous

    Siskulous Know what you're doing yet?

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    Hate to break it to you Zoat, but men are men and always have been. What? You think your generation invented the threesome or something? Nah.
     
  13. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    ...

    My gran was an indentical twin...
     
  14. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    99, no, not real. 72, that's real. Not sure just how far back it goes, though, if it's traditional canon or if it's a more modern invention by jihadists. To the best of my knowledge it's promised as a reward for martyrs in specific.
     
  15. Siskulous

    Siskulous Know what you're doing yet?

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    Heh. Enjoy that mental image.
     
  16. KarmaFalcon

    KarmaFalcon Getting sticky.

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    Does anyone recall WHY Guy left his Ring at home? Was he making some kind of statement to someone he cared about or what? Cause the only thing I could think of would be a.) chafing under Rules, b.) needing time away from being a Lantern due to an accident of some kind happening that he couldn;t prevent or caused himself, or c.) some girl asking him to choose between being a Lantern or being with her.
     
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  17. Jormuungaand

    Jormuungaand Out of work World Serpent

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    D). “I’m just gonna go to the store for some bread. Don’t need the ring for a two minute walk.” Perhaps?
     
  18. Nervaqus987

    Nervaqus987 Well worn.

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    And now that image will never leave your mind.
     
  19. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    Fuck it. I'm going to try to make a list. I think I made one before back when this was on SB. I'm not counting the Common Sense versions of the SIs because that's not an individual timeline like the others. Color coded by ring(s).

    Mr Zoat
    Which episode was the version of the SI who recharges his ring by eating demons seen in? I can't remember, so I'll edit once I reread it. Also did I miss any of them?

    1. Paragon SI = Earth 16A (Young Justice), eventually becomes the "Future SI" briefly seen in Fool's Canon
    2. Renegade SI/"Grayven" = Earth16B (Young Justice)
    3. "Peter Wynne" = Earth 12 (DC Animated Universe)
    4. Red Lantern = Earth ??? (Teen Titans 2003)
    5. "Saul Talbot" = Earth ??? (The Boys)
    6. Power Ring Blue = Earth -14 (unseen universe from the DCAU's version of COTE)
    7. Marvel SI 1 = Earth 8096 (Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes)
    8. Marvel SI 2 = Earth 199999 (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
    9. Mandate SI/Time Trapper = Earth 16C (alt-timeline caused by time travel)
    10. Anti-Green Lantern/Slave SI = Earth ??? (Justice League Animated Pitch)
    11. Eros Paragon SI = Earth 16D (Young Justice)
    12. Sybarite = Earth ??? (unknown incarnation of DC)
     
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  20. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Sybarite

    Also, 10 is in the version of Justice League Animated shown in the original pitch trailer.
     
  21. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Well in the comics it was explained away by him not having a ring- He was Hal's backup, not an active Green Lantern, when he got creamed by a bus while saving one of his students during an earthquake.

    While the YJ writers feel free to make changes (Comics Artemis is an adult white supervillainess who uses a crossbow who had Icicle Jr's baby after all), I would assume they had a similar situation in mind for YJ Guy.

    But since YJ focused on the Team and not worldbuilding in general, that's just an assumption on my part.
     
  22. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    Thanks. Also is Sybarite from any specific DC Earth? There's no year listed but the mention of Tuppence seems to imply it's also an alt-version of Earth 16?
     
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  23. Mr Zoat

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    ...

    Probably something like that.
     
  24. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    This ties back into Mandated doesn’t it? Now that I’ve reread that episode, Time Trapper SI’s plan by the end was to create and to revert alternate timelines to stall for more ‘flexibility’ until he could figure out a permanent way to keep the timeline that spawned him in existence.

    I’m assuming this means Sybarite SI and Green Lantern Jade Scott are products of his meddling that will only exist temporarily? We already know a version of Jade becomes the Red Queen, and she merges with the Mandate timeline version of herself since Time Trapper is there in the background. Well, that’s assuming the Time Trapper we see in that glimpse is still a version of the SI. Even then we don’t know for sure if he’d pick his Jade for whatever he’s planning because we just don’t have all the info.

    .... Man, fuck time travel. Always gives me a headache. I hope you know you’re going to have to explain this all in detail several times once this plot plays itself out?
     
  25. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Try watching films with my sister and mother some time.
     
  26. Ardy

    Ardy I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Do they have identical twins too? ^^
     
  27. rdfox

    rdfox Know what you're doing yet?

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    ...god, I heard Jeffrey Coombs say that line when I read it!
     
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  28. earlyriser

    earlyriser Getting sticky.

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    Other Paul's not mentioned are Common Sense Paul (edit: not counted) and Self-aware-gamer-Paul who hates DLC.

    Titles for next episodes look interesting.

    Also, Zoat? Is Grayven's Azarath trip happening soon in story?
     
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  29. Ganurath

    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    Wasn't there also supposed to be a Violet Paul in the all female setting?
     
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  30. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    That was gag omake not made by Zoat, IIRC.
     
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