Breakout (Worm)

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.


BAM GUYS!
War ahead, huh?

 

You could potentially make very tiny quantities of some raw materials.

You might be able to if you spend a lot of time practicing, but not soon. You have control over your body at a cellular level, but you lack the knowledge and experience to use yourself as a molecular assembler.

I will however add a cape to your roster, to assist with this. There are capes who violate conservation of mass in the setting.

Hugforcer

Powers: Can cause any object within a few centimeters of his skin to grow a large spike away from his body, made of the same material as the object on his skin. Minor precognition granted by Teacher.

Crimes: Used a simple medallion, and hugged people as he killed them.

Cell block leader: Teacher

Personality: Childish, broken

Don't always expect a cape to pop up with the power you need.... in fact this will probably be it. You'll now need to rely on the powers posted earlier.

 

Hmm. It was presented as a surprise when Khepri discovered that the power influence was unavoidable. Might just be canon being slightly inconsistent.

That said, there's plenty of justification for block leaders to see a change in behavior of a new inmate who has been exposed to Teacher's power, and extrapolating from there.

IMHO the safest way would be to talk to all the block leaders first, then eat Teacher, but if he's sitting right there in front of us, offering himself on a silver platter, then I have NO problem with seizing the day and eating the jerk.

We can even truthfully say that Teacher wanted to use his power on us, so in retaliation we used our power on him first.

Yeah, if we're going to eat Teacher right now, we ought to then immediately sacrifice someone in front of GU both as an offering and as an experiment. If the experiment fails, we ought to give her another offering -- perhaps someone from Teacher's block, to see if the shades retain their Teacher powers in addition to their inherent powers.

 

It was a surprise that it had to have a master effect. Not that it had one at all.

Sounds good, let's eat him.

I like your Jedi Truth on the next line, too. Though they might know/think it depends on consent, which could backfire.

I like this idea.

Speaking of, we could probably take many of Teacher's prisoners for our own, since we'll now be the sole source of "fixes" for their additions.

I'm not sure if doing so would make us seem more of a threat, though, or if it's just a natural and convenient step in seizing power in the the BirdCage.

 

I think we should sort out a way round the shrinking problem before we take out teacher, the cape interitio just added means a tinker power would be useful and if not we should chat to string theory.
We shouldn't kill another block leader as our first action after we second trigger, that sounds like a way to get killed off.

Spoiler: solitary

Name: Solitary

Power: (Tinker) Can make anything (in the tinker libraries, repeats fine) but is restricted to just one device, that she must mod over and over again if she wants to change functionality, always losing one function to create a new one.
Recreated her sole device in the BirdCage. Is restricted heavily by the dearth of adequate equipment.

Cell Block Leader: Crane

Crimes: Typical villainous acts, except that Solitary is extremely possessive of her one device--anyone targeting it would find that she no longer cared for rules or restraints. And since "target the tinkertech" is a valid tactic, this repeated until eventually the locals banded up against her, her original device was destroyed, and she was cast into the Birdcage.

Personality: Mercurial, Petulant, Possessive.

Spoiler: Hugforcer

Hugforcer
Powers: Can cause any object within a few centimeters of his skin to grow a large spike away from his body, made of the same material as the object on his skin. Minor precognition granted by Teacher.
Crimes: Used a simple medallion, and hugged people as he killed them.
Cell block leader: Teacher
Personality: Childish, broken

Hugforcers power can help out solitarys, anyone want to see about eating these 2 first, or at least can we talk to there cell block leaders to see if they will trade for them?

I really think we should hold off on killing teacher guys, He hasn't done anything to us and he probably has offered his power to every cell block leader. I am fine with killing him just not now when it can go badly. Can we hold off until the other leaders are sure our second trigger didn't break us?

 

More Jedi Truth:
- "Teacher wanted to use his power on me, so I had to avoid him. Teacher said he had a way to contact the outside world, so I couldn't avoid him. He thought that putting me in a corner would work out to his advantage. He was wrong."

Oh yeah, short-term we're going to use Teacher's power to top off all Teacher's followers. We need to sugar-coat this.

We can play on:

- Our reputation for old-school morality: "This power enforces obedience. It's disgusting. If my own men can't honestly report back to me about the consequences of my decisions, their judgement is impaired."

- Our expressed desire to escape: "Having Teacher's Tinkers is a boon, but honestly I don't have the time nor inclination to manage two cell blocks. I'd prefer to divvy up the loot fairly amongst all of us, even forsaking my own share of Teacher's wealth, if it means restoring trust. I don't want to rule in hell. I want to get the hell out and see my daughter."

 

Well we have a total of one vote.

I'll leave it another day.

 

This is my first time making a vote option hope it goes well

[]Plan Tinkers
-[] contact Crane To negotiate for the prisoner

Spoiler: solitary

Name: Solitary
Power: (Tinker) Can make anything (in the tinker libraries, repeats fine) but is restricted to just one device, that she must mod over and over again if she wants to change functionality, always losing one function to create a new one.
Recreated her sole device in the BirdCage. Is restricted heavily by the dearth of adequate equipment.
Cell Block Leader: Crane
Crimes: Typical villainous acts, except that Solitary is extremely possessive of her one device--anyone targeting it would find that she no longer cared for rules or restraints. And since "target the tinkertech" is a valid tactic, this repeated until eventually the locals banded up against her, her original device was destroyed, and she was cast into the Birdcage.
Personality: Mercurial, Petulant, Possessive.

from his cell block with the aim of recruiting her for her tinker power, be willing to offer any resource we have which doesn't increase our chances of escape
-[]contact string theory about working together to escape, she is capable of creating any devise even though she has limited resources here. as teacher explained the largest obstruction to us escaping is the fact the birdcage and all residents are shrunk.
-[] as a way to get resources for tinker projects see if we can borrow or "rent"

Spoiler: Hugforcer

Hugforcer
Powers: Can cause any object within a few centimeters of his skin to grow a large spike away from his body, made of the same material as the object on his skin. Minor precognition granted by Teacher.
Crimes: Used a simple medallion, and hugged people as he killed them.
Cell block leader: Teacher
Personality: Childish, broken

From teacher, we just want him to create some materials for us to use so even a day of him replicating any metals, alloys and other materials should give us some resources.
-[] Reject teachers offer for now but imply we are considering it, If we decide to kill him he will be more easily convinced to come with us if he thinks we are still freindly. The sporadic contact to the outside is not worth killing him right now.


Is this ok? anyone have anything they think that could add to this

 

Your vote prompt was entirely open-ended, so instead of a vote, you got a discussion.

Can you really not interpret the discussion?

Just in case the answer is "no":

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.

 

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.
Yeah, I'm with the eating Teacher. That'll be handy one way or another.

 

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.

We're in no mood to play games. It's less that he's a threat and more that he has information we need and we know we get knowledge from who we eat. It's closer to say he has made himself an obstacle than that he is a threat.

 

[X] Plan Tinkers

 

I find it's a lot safer to rely on votes. Discussion can be oddly deceptive.

 

We have six updates. We need to get moving. Plan cobbled together from other people as well as with original aspects.

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.
-[X] Take our pick from Teacher's cell block, including Hugforcer. Keep in mind that they're all(?) addicted to something only we can provide, so will probably come crawling to us in time.
-[X] We now have a surplus of capes under our control, and limited interest in actively ruling them. Pick two useless ones to test with GU. Eat the first near her, to see if we can both benefit. If so, both can partake of the latter one. If not, whoever did not gain the power should eat the second. It's only polite.
-[X]contact string theory about working together to escape, she is capable of creating any devise even though she has limited resources here. as teacher explained the largest obstruction to us escaping is the fact the birdcage and all residents are shrunk.


Hm. I think that's good for now. We'll see if I have any other thoughts later on.

One thing to note for Plan Tinkers is that Crane and Solitary are female inmates, so transfer would be...tricky.

 

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.
-[X] Take our pick from Teacher's cell block, including Hugforcer. Keep in mind that they're all(?) addicted to something only we can provide, so will probably come crawling to us in time.
-[X] We now have a surplus of capes under our control, and limited interest in actively ruling them. Pick two useless ones to test with GU. Eat the first near her, to see if we can both benefit. If so, both can partake of the latter one. If not, whoever did not gain the power should eat the second. It's only polite.
-[X]contact string theory about working together to escape, she is capable of creating any devise even though she has limited resources here. as teacher explained the largest obstruction to us escaping is the fact the birdcage and all residents are shrunk.

 

Are you all sure about killing teacher? Second triggers cause a spike in violence because the cape often rampages afterwards, do we really want to kill one of the cell block leaders as soon as we triggered. It will defiantly make. Us look unstable and an excuse like he wanted to use his power on me is a little lacking when he probably offers it to all the leaders. His communication with the outside is also very limited, he can only contact saint sporadically.

If you feel his communication system is that valuable can we go after it when we haven't immediately second triggered and everyone is wary we might snap and go on a rampage

 

Let me put it this way:

I actually don't want to kill Teacher now. If I had my way, I'd lay a lot more groundwork first. But that would require a much looser timeframe--given the tight one that we do have, yeah, I'm willing to risk it.

We can always truthfully report to the others the Jedi Truths evildice pointed out above. I'm fairly certain GU has a power that would let her verify (can you imagine a power that would cause more conflict than stripping away lies? ) and even if she knows that they are Jedi Truths, I think that'd just make her like us more. Why? Because another good word for Jedi Truths would be Faerie Truths, given their propensity for misleading yet truthful comments

I think the risk is a little bit lower than you're thinking.

I wondered for a second why Crane as a male name seemed to resonate, and then it occurred to me--did you also read Tamora Pierce's the Circle of Magic books? I'm pretty sure there was a Disciple Crane in that series.

 

Interitio: :-/ I can't say I'm a fan of the 8 update deadline. Making it go by update count, rather than, say, in-game time, encourages huge, multi-step plans, full of conditionals and subconditionals. We can't just do things and then act on the results.

Also, I have to ask: Why do we care about the communication method? Are we planning to try to get outside help? Do we expect the method to reveal a weakness in the Birdcage that can help our escape? I'm sure Alex would love to be able to talk to his daughter - but our priority is getting out to help her, not sending her a message.

 

You only get a couple of thousand words, so that is unlikely to work. The eight update deadline is so I don't end up running two epic quests, I want this one short and sweet if at all possible.

 

Okay, if we need to cram in more per decision, then:

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.

[X] Fucking Tinkers: figure out if we've actually been shrunk, or what.

[X] Tinker Fucking: use Teacher's power to turn all his flunkies into Tinkers. Make them work together with String Theory, who is of course the best Tinker in the world. Cut his rates in half for services rendered to other cell block leaders, or maybe just have them work for free because we're all in this together, by which I mean we're all getting out of this together.

[X] Communicate with Saint. Find out that Dragon is an AI, from Saint or from Teacher's memories. Think about this. When we're ready, tell Saint to aggressively go after Dragon, and to signal us when Dragon is disabled. Wear Teacher's face and demeanor while speaking to Saint, because we don't trust that dumb piece of shit.

 

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.

[X] Fucking Tinkers: figure out if we've actually been shrunk, or what.

[X] Tinker Fucking: use Teacher's power to turn all his flunkies into Tinkers. Make them work together with String Theory, who is of course the best Tinker in the world. Cut his rates in half for services rendered to other cell block leaders, or maybe just have them work for free because we're all in this together, by which I mean we're all getting out of this together.

[X] Communicate with Saint. Find out that Dragon is an AI, from Saint or from Teacher's memories. Think about this. When we're ready, tell Saint to aggressively go after Dragon, and to signal us when Dragon is disabled. Wear Teacher's face and demeanor while speaking to Saint, because we don't trust that du

Ok I don't think my vote will win and this has the important parts of my vote anyway so switching to this. I'll feel bad about Dragon but I'll get over it

 

[X] Eat him and focus on the communication outside. He's a threat that needs to be eliminated.

[X] Fucking Tinkers: figure out if we've actually been shrunk, or what.

[X] Tinker Fucking: use Teacher's power to turn all his flunkies into Tinkers. Make them work together with String Theory, who is of course the best Tinker in the world. Cut his rates in half for services rendered to other cell block leaders, or maybe just have them work for free because we're all in this together, by which I mean we're all getting out of this together.

[X] Communicate with Saint. Find out that Dragon is an AI, from Saint or from Teacher's memories. Think about this. When we're ready, tell Saint to aggressively go after Dragon, and to signal us when Dragon is disabled. Wear Teacher's face and demeanor while speaking to Saint, because we don't trust that dumb piece of shit.

 

[X] Plan evildice

 

So I'm not sure of the next action but there is another way to deal with the size issue from what I can see, we consume enough mass to grow our body back to full size with our absorption + shapeshifting. We just need to find a way of absorbing a human sized chunk of mass while smaller then an ant or a way of generating infinite mass to grow larger at will, so if we can get Hugforcer we could probably do that, the limitations don't seem to prevent giant human forms after all which may be something of a loophole but whatever.

 

Couldn't you escape, then grow back to normal size?

 

There is a minor issue that unless we scale up it's likely to be very, very far for travelling up the chute, as in some basic maths indicates we're probably going to be a thousand times smaller then normal then best, could be a few thousand depending on the big the prison actually is internally. So however long the chute is would be proportionally a thousand times longer, so very easily hundreds of kilometers long after scaling. If we had a sufficiently fast method of travel it could be good as it's much harder to target something only a few millimeters across but we'd need a rather good tinkertech transport system.

 

Ok killing Teacher did not get as bad a response as I expected but crane and Gavel both calling for our death will make some things a lot more difficult, string theory seems to support us entirely and Glaistag and the rest will probably ignore us till they see how our escape attempt goes. I think we should Ignore them until they come after us as proactively taking them out will cause the other cell block leaders to wonder if they are next and accelerate there plans

Overall not a bad result for what it got us.

This is mostly more good news. Getting every tinker working together sounds difficult but is possible. we could also strengthen a few using teachers power. So we bring this up at the next meeting. although I expected teachers Tinkers to be better considering what they managed in cannon but that was with hundred working together. Not 9, maybe see if we can get a few more converted to tinker? Our cell has a few dozen capes, lets see who is willing to volunteer for tinker duty.

Yay this is one problem out of the way certainly

Ok so current goal
*getting more tinkers to string theory, enough to set up a Lab and help her out
*getting more powers that can help us, something defensive or precog to help us either avoid attacks from crane or Gavel or tank them. Something offensive so we can get through the elevator shaft quicker and dont get stuck. A flight power would also be nice.
*this is more a secondary goal but more biomass would be nice, maybe see if Hugforcer power works on dead bodies (as seen in the fault line interlude dead no longer counts by the manton effect)




[X]Bring up the need for tinkers at the next meeting and offer a favor, resources, or one of your non tinker capes working for them for every cell block leader who has someone help out.
-[X]Check at your cell block for any volunteer to become a tinker and work with string theory to escape the birdcage. No forced conversions.
-[X]see if any of the tinkers currently working with string theory want an upgrade using teachers power. If we can control which part of the power is upgraded focus on ability to convert raw resources to tinker equipment
[X] consider all the powers in both our block and teachers with an aim of eating them. Look for a high speed flight power. the best defensive power and the best offensive power. Also check for a "danger sense" or "precog" type thinker power to help avoid or anticipate ambushes from Gavel or crane.
-[X]see if Hugforcers power works on dead bodies and If so can we absorb that biomass for later use in regeneration.
[X] keep an eye out for any of the plots to kill you from the other cell block leaders specifically crane and gavel.



Any thing anyone can think of adding? Or a more important power to go after.

 

For Crane and Gavel, I'd say just keep reminding them about our intent to escape; they will expect us to die in the attempt, so why bother risking coming after us themselves?