With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Everyone is always on about superspeed soldiers when the real application lies in information processing.

Imagine a corporation with a superspeed RnD team.

Or even just a superspeed assembly line.

 

Enter the real version of Velocity 9.

 

or velocity 10 with renegrayven

 

Lots of experience? Or is this a dialect thing?

 

...now they totally will thanks to the Accala opening the Pandora's Box first.

Mass-produced super-powered armies were like all other WMDs: no one wanted to be the first to let one off the chain (at least in a way that couldn't be construed as a reversible one-off), but now that there is one, being the second is perfectly acceptable, and seemingly inevitable.

 

I'm not sure that's entirely true.

The atlantians, the amazons, the martians?

I'm sure there are other groups out there who are self-contained supers, to some degree.


I think the World isn't going to go berserk about this until the Accala or the like show just how insanely hard it is to stop such a group without a counter.

It'll just be another curio tribe, another thing to keep super solder programs crusing along.


When the shit hits the fan, perhaps that will change.


Then again, this is DC.

 

Zoat is there going to be a chapter focusing on an alternate version of the SI tomorrow, aside from renegade i mean?

 

It could be worse, Zoat could have been an I...Vampire fan.

Russia could be mass producing super-vampires with no weaknesses thanks to the Russian Formula.

Soldiers with superhuman strength, speed, durability, regeneration, shapeshifting, superhuman senses, and mind control.

Vampires who can ignore sunlight, garlic, religious symbols, and finds stakes through the heart merely annoying.

Not as fast as Garrick enhanciles or as strong as Danner enhanciles, but then again neither of them can fly around as giant bats or mind control people.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Not unless I have a brainstorm this evening.

 

Vampire King Cain was really OP.
Still I Vampire was a really great series.

 

Chess Notation? What do you mean by that?

 

Writing the moves used during a chess game. It only came up once.

 

All three of those examples can easily end up falling into the "out of sight, out of mind" category. Each one is heavily isolated politically and economically, meaning that when one of their representatives engages in some high-profile, righteous face-punching, it's easy to forget that they're abilities are part of the standard package, and not the Platinum UltraDeluxe Metahuman model.

 

Oh no Wally is going to whip up batches of Velocity 9

and now we're seeing the beginning of the superhuman armsrace.

Looks Like we're going to get the metahuman trafficking issue a few years early.

 

>Russian Gov makes noises about more Garrick formula to Kid Flash
>Kid Flash flexes alchemy chops to make temporary formula so that Russia can't give their entire army permanent superspeed
>Russian Gov doesn't have to worry about super-powered defectors keeping their powers after leaving Russia and ensures that Russian metas given the drug are dependent on Russia for more of the drug as well as medical treatment for side effects.
>Russian 4d chess


Wait, wasn't this reasoning somewhere earlier in the renegade timeline?

 

A metahuman arms race may happen, but probably not one that includes abducting children.
Truggs took one of the HERO dials and was thinking of giving powers to mercenaries temporarily.
Giving powers to professional soldiers who consent is a better plan than kidnapping children and forcefully giving them powers.
The soldiers will be more loyal and are better trained, and they will depend on the one who gave them powers to keep them, so the chances of the person you kidnapped and made into a metahuman without his consent coming for revenge are removed, plus experimenting on someone without their consent is a taboo, especially if it is on children. This can seriously hurt any transhumanist efforts to enchance humans even if they are doing it in a safe manner. After WWII eugenics, even some of the more scientific type, became a taboo subject because of what the nazis did, so if someone tries enchancing humans in a criminal manner it can hurt the more benevolent people that are trying to improve people in a non-criminal way.

 

None of them hold any relevance whatsoever in regards to the rest of the world.

The Amazons are for the most part a bronze age army with a few dozens daughters of Hercules (probably weaker than the Danner enhanced), some advanced magic practitioners of with there is a very high emphasis of ritual and conjuration magic, so when it comes to magic they are bellow England.

So Amazons would cause a negligible impact and they are already isolationist by default so no one needs to care about them unless a new leader takes over.

Atlanteans are a bigger concern hence why the UN had a measure of contact with them that has greatly expanded after the Romanoke split world tragedy, but they have no mayor interest beyond cleaner oceans and the territory of their city states so they are easier to negotiate with and their economic impact is greatly reduced.

The Martians are the other guys in SOL, but they are in MARS and are also HARD isolationist, so they don't really matter much either.

All of them have absolutely no impact on the worlds economy and the inter relationships between nations, the Accala and their plans would have a super massive impact and their starting position as a threat is already much higher than the Amazons, and they are harder to hit than the Atlanteans (underwater nukes are no joke and the side effects to the rest of the world would be very limited).

 

Hey. I just got through the whole archive since back when I stopped at some point before the migration to QQ. Good stuff.

I've got a question relevant to the latest chapters and I don't know if it has been answered/asked yet. Did Overgirl Angelika appear in the Renegade timeline as well? If not, why not?

Speaking of that, does anyone remember what Blue!Paul -12 was up to in the Renegade timeline back when in the Paragon timeline he decided to pay Earth 16 a visit? Is Renegade!Blue's startingp the same as Renegade!Paul's/Grayven's, which led him down a path that never led to dimension-hopping? And if there ends up being a crisis of Pauls, should we or shouldn't we expect a crisis of Rene!Pauls to go alongside it?

 

No, because she came from one parallel and went to another. There would need to be another Nazi parallel and another fluke event to bring her to the Renegade's parallel.

No, he'd just be another alt.

 

Are we talking lead-free super solders, though?

 

Huh. So Renegade is not actually on DC Earth 16? Where is he then?
Also does this mean that when Paragon!Paul's Doctor Thaddeus Sivana actually can contact Renegade!Sivana at any time?

 

This is actually good for OL's goal of uplifting humanity, after all as super strength and super speed become more widespread there will be more demand for it and so on and so forth

 

So I was trawling though the DC wiki and it turns out there's a second group of amazons on Earth in the comics. The Amazons of Bana-Mighdall are apparently a splinter group that rejected following Hippolyta to Themyscira after Heracles and instead settled in their own hidden city(protected and hidden by a magical sandstorm by the Egyptian/Kahndaqi gods) in Egypt/Kahndaq. They rejected the gods of Olympus and apparently worship the gods of Egypt/Kahndaq(though they apparently are rather violent, surviving as secret mercenaries and master weapon-smiths), they even have their own champion called the Shim'Tar, who's armed with the Bow of Ra.

I admit I find myself rather curious if Mr Zoat will use them(and how they and Adom will interact).

 

Almost certainly not. Some Amazons left the island, but by this point their descendants are culturally identical to the people around them. If any of them were demi-goddesses then they might still be alive, but... Someone would have noticed by now.

 

I believe the story once referred to the renegadeverse as Earth-16b. If I'm remembering right.

My assumption is that Zoat is using Hypertime, in which there are alternate universes based on the "every possibility that can happen does happen somewhere" model.

Or he's borrowing from wildstorm, which I understand showed universes just popping into existence in the Bleed.

You missed a third one actually.

Dumb Bunny is half Amazon, her mother Princess Power coming from a subterranean city of Amazons.

 

I'm trying to recall, did OL plant Euanthe's seed when they got down to Brazil? Cause I think she'd be quite enthusiastic about helping the native grow back the jungle. If she mentions that Orange Lantern was the one who signaled her, that would likely make the natives happier with him (and the Government more upset with him)

 

*winces* the..Stolen Generation? yeah. i was..trying to..thinking of a tactful way to bring that up myself.
took the fucking pollies.. what? 50? 60? what the fuck ever years to ADMIT that, maybe, just maybe, stealing children/babies from their parents MIGHT have been, just a little tad, wrong?

 

Is it bad that Im more interested in grayven arc then Paul's at the moment.