With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

'Your' not 'You'

Ah Zaul being all logical.

What would Raul and Zaul do to the comic version of Kom if they got their hands on her?
I know probably kill her but just wanted to know if you'd change everything.

 

Not sure what it is but Black seems a lot more emotive in this update than previous ones

 

Thank you, corrected.

Depends at what point. Once she became Queen of Tamaran with no other viable candidates they'd probably leave her in place.

 

Give a black ring to the red queen?

That is a TERRIBLE idea... I can see how the blackest night is going to start and why Zoat told us a white ring would have to be forged.

 

Any reason they can't just regrow a body from the bits left after the explosion, then toss the body in a Lazarus Pit?

 

Wouldn't they at least try to give the throne to Kori after they, or at least Raul, destroy the Citadel and Gordanians, like Raul did?
She is another viable candidate, plus she may actually have more training in how to run things seeing as Kom was disinherited and if the citizens know of Koms betrayal then she certainly loses a significant chunk of popularity.


Or just rescue Kori and keep a close eye on Kom, while giving her the knowledge that if she does more evil shit she either becomes a trophy or a battery?

I thought that Kom did give Kori to the Gordanians in the TT series, at least in the tie in comics.
Though if they were able to beat Tamara on their own then they didn't require her betrayal and just demanded a hostage after defeating Tamara.

 

He’s just British and used to very dry as the bone humor.

 

"Does it have to keep saying that? It's kind of... Concerning..."

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

And makes it a lot harder to damage, too. That's one drawback of the anthropomorphic layout. Having the bit running the body stuck in a chunk that flaps around outside the core of the body's mass? Kind of a weak point...

See, now that's a good idea. I wouldn't doubt that the Manhunter has psionic shielding, but worth a try.

Pfft, all Raul has to do is get angry enough at the wounds. It'll hurt worse than the injuries in the first place, but...

Amazing, they've actually thought of it! Surely it isn't that advanced a piece of schizo-tech though?

At least they're paying attention to the criticism, some versions would just have gone "It's Luthor saying it. Bad!" and ignored him.

Kryptonian salvage skills at work. Hopefully they're remembering to keep it functional enough to use.

That would be helpful, yes...

Post-flashpoint? Ew...

"All the time. And this universe doesn't have a helpful supply of revenants to feed on..."

Yeah, they're technically 'heroes' because they only do bad things to bad people... The long-underwear crowd tends to be short-sighted in that respect...

Ha! I suppose that's an easy assumption to make. I mean, they don't know about the Spectrum in this universe...

Stylish. Not quite as iconic as a Green Lantern Battery, but you make do with what you get.

Ah, a personalised Oath. That's why it scans a bit oddly, eh.

Hmm... Increases the likelihood Krona did something to it then.

Which means they guy who knows what's going on in captured. And so is our hero, OL. Frustrating. Hopefully we get to see their perspective soon...

"Yes. Orange skin. Black hair. The nicest purple eyes. Wonderful girl... Violent but wonderful."

You're dealing with alternate universes. Do you think it's the same one as yours?

Let's hope she isn't playing possum. Don't want him getting taken out...

...That is a good point. I doubt he's going to be powering dimensional tech on under 2% charge.

NO! No, no, no. That's bad! Is your ring asking for that, Zaul? You know you shouldn't listen to what it says!

Well, at least she/it is out of the fight. Maybe now they can raid the memory for info...

Dangerously more, I bet. Every bit of charge he gets is one step closer to Nekron going "Hmm, what's that over there?"

Oh, boy. You know things are bad when additional Black Lanterns are honestly being considered... How soon until we hit the Godzilla Threshold...

 

Agreed and if the idea is to bring them back to life then why not Lazerus pits?

 

Lazarus pits may not always work the way you intended,YJ Clayface for example and some of the people paragon tried to bring back to life, one dissolved and the other was a demon.

 

I do believe we have passed it.

 

Well, this isn't an Earth-16 variant, so things may work differently (also, IIRC, YJ-Clayface was trapped in a Lazarus pit for a long period).

 

Still it may prove unreliable.

 

Still a better first option than a Black Lantern ring.

 

Eh, true.

 

Also most versions are pretty reliable. The only time out side of Young Justice and fanfics I've heard of one not working right is with Mr Freeze's wife, which was do to the chemicals used to let her survive being frozen alive.

 

I'm really curious about Black Lantern's time in Sunnydale. I hope DogbertCarroll writes a one or two off of it. Except I also don't because I'm still waiting on more Sons and Daughters of Sineya.

EDIT: And 'Working for the Weekend', 'Wood it Work', 'Xander and Cordy make a porno', 'Ensign America', and 'Stand Ins and Stunt Doubles'.
MORE EDIT: And 'A brand new day', 'Walking in the shadows', 'With Sprinkles', 'I Still Say it Looks like a Nail', 'On the Mountain', and 'Gone in 60 Seconds'.
EVEN MORE EDIT: As well as 'Mirror Mirror', 'Priorities', 'BUM', 'Fun Sized', and 'Lucky at Cards'.
STILL EVEN MORE EDIT: And these ones too "First Knight", "Dis Guy, Eh?", "Sage Advice", "Faces and Facets", "Lacking an Anchor", and lastly "XD Squared".

 

It's adorable that he thinks he has a chance in hell against The Spectre.

 

He's not trying to get their hearts, he is just saying that they have two people that have killed other people as allies and maybe as members, and that denying him the chance to power up by killing a criminal while they let these two operate is both illogical and hypocritical.

Ragman has only killed bad guys, but the Spectre... well the thing with Vertigo...

 

He didn't say he wanted to drain them, he was just pointing out that this League tolerates murderers for some reason, and he could really do with getting his murder on right now. You know, for the cause and all that. Clearly they're allowed, so can he fill out some files and get to executing the death row inmates yet or what?

 

"Simple, they don't keep asking about it or insisting that I be informed that they're doing it."

Black is... actually kind of adorable, I guess?

 

If my theory is correct, very soon.

That theory being that Time Trapper is actually working with Krona.

Or might be "Krona".

You'll notice he didn't start recruting his Paul Corps until - immediately - after Grayven took a bite out of crime...

 

He's either working knowingly with Króna or at least unknowingly.

Though yeah the possibility of him being "Krona" does exist, but I'm still pretty sure he isn't.

 

I mean, I’m preety sure this is the April Fools episode. I’d be surprised if it leads to something depressing like the War of Light.

 

Again, I don't know what point in the timeline you are talking about.

Koriand'r never got training in how to rule anything. The Okaarans trained her as a warrior, then she got grabbed by her sister's soldiers and enslaved. Komand'r fought her way to the top of the Citadel heirarchy and learned how to command that way.

I don't remember that being the case. Do you have a reference?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

The April Fools episode already happened.

For the timeline it can be anytime after her betrayal.

Kori could have been trained in how to rule before being sent to the Okaarans and she could have also had some tutors sent with her to help with things other than becoming a warrior.

Seeing as Kom was not going to get the throne her parents may have put more focus on Koris training.

As for that reference well:


Though I'm assuming you changed it in your story so that she didn't betray them, seeing as Raul mentioned something about them conquering the planet without any help, and not just him not knowing about it because no one mentioned it.

Wonder what Raul would think about that if he found out she betrayed her world, assuming she did that in your story.

So if they leave her in place to rule, would Raul and Zaul at least warn her to not do all the evil shit she did in the comics, like attacking her sister and her friends, unless she wants to become a trophy on the wall or a battery?

 

Not just that, Black Lanterns with multiversal timeline hopping powers

 

But there's a radical difference between the shape of both Tamaranean society and the shape of Vega between the time she captured Koriand'r and the time Tamaran was destroyed. You can't lump everything together and expect a simple answer..

She probably did, actually. It just wouldn't have mattered in the longer run if she didn't. Realistically, winning over one teenage girl wouldn't change the course of an interstellar war. Koriand'r mentioned that the gordanians were already bombing her world when she was growing up, and we see what Tamaran looked like after Komand'r's truce was broken in a later episode.

 

After her betrayal but before the destruction of Tamaran.

Still if she betrayed her planet I think Raul would still be pissed about his fiance doing that, assuming he knows it, though you write him so maybe he knows and something about his personality makes him not hold it that much against her.

If Raul meets comic Komandr after everything she did I'm pretty sure he would kill her.
That is if she isn't leading her people after her planets destruction.

If he lets her comic version live because he doesn't want Tamaran descending into chaos, and Kori is incapable of leading them for whatever reason, would he at least tell her to not do any of the evil shit she did in the comics, like trying to kill her sister and her friends, if she doesn't want him putting her skull on his wall or at least letting her know what having Red Light acid on her face feels like if she engages in evil shit he doesn't think is necessary, because she may have to deal with some unpleasant people seeing as she lives in Vega, but nothing more than what is strictly necessary and her murder attempts are pointless acts of pettiness, so are not necessary?

 

Not necessarily.

What you have to remember is that Komand'r is a manipulative polymath. We don't know exactly why she did what she did, but if she had the wherewithal to say something along the lines of 'Tamaran was going to lose anyway. All that I changed was turning it from a total surrender to a negotiated surrender. One of getting enslaved rather than all of us.' then that fits Red's view of the universe perfectly well. It's not as if she's tried murdering her sister since coming to Earth, and she did go back to Vega once she had enough force to defeat the gordanians.

He'd certainly try.

No, because it would be an empty threat, and might distract her from doing the things that she needs to do in order to keep her peopel alive.