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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Agent Orange

    Agent Orange Experienced.

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    But who/what are you basing this conclusion on? Paul - a soulless abomination (conjured Ex nihilo by Mr Zoat at the start of the story) turned Orange Elemental trapped in flesh? Larfleese an insane gremlin overwhelmed by Orange light on top of belonging to a naturally stupidly long lived species? There were no other Orange Lanterns before Paul did his thing and they haven't been Lanterns long enough for aging to matter so any conclusions you draw are based on... what? One or two data points?
     
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  2. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    I just have a strong suspicion that they're not immediately going to age until they're dust when they take off their rings.

    I'm pretty sure that I'm right.

    Paul doesn't revert to look like he did before he came to Earth 16 when he takes his ring off, and Jade didn't revert to her previous self, when she didn't have a lot of empathy, when she took the ring off, so it's not that difficult to imagine that they won't suddenly age to dust when they take the ring off if they used it to extend their life.
     
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  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    While there are certain life-extension spells that have a 'snap back' effect, biologically rebuilding your body doesn't.
     
  4. The Froggy Ninja

    The Froggy Ninja The Blade Will Never Die

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    Is that because it doesn’t repair DNA or because of soul shenanigans? And don’t most people want to stay at peak functionality, which is effectively wanting immortality with extra steps? Like, I can’t imagine most lanterns want to get old and decrepit even if they don’t have any strong feelings relating to long-term lifespan.
     
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  5. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    Oh, yeah. Grayven healed her after a (power-related) car accident, right?
     
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  6. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    Which Melmoth doesn't want to do. We can't necessarily assume that the Sheeda are Always Chaotic Evil to the last man. Er, elf. Er, Sheeda. Anyway - based soley on his words.

    Maybe all the ones at the top are, maybe most of them overall are, but there's bound to be at least one Drizz't amonst them somewhere.
     
  7. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Yep.

    Unless they're literary born evil due to say something like a genetic memory.

    Even if there are some non evil Sheeda they're most likely a very small minority.

    There have been purely evil races shown in this story, like the Psions and Citadelians.

    Different people want different things, so maybe some of the Lanterns may actually want to get old, due to say their culture respecting old age, or they may find immortality to not be something they want.

    They may make themselves not experience any decrepit pains of old age, there are old people that can lead strong and exciting lives, but that's it.
     
  8. Senevri

    Senevri Not too sore, are you?

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    The first movie, specifically, although if incompetence from other countries is something you're looking for, the second has more of that...

    but you can sub in many of the movies sponsored by US military as far as similar patriotic hype goes.
     
  9. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Well worn.

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    Sword of the Fallen to the Sun?
     
  10. Agent Orange

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    It's the only way to be sure. Have Artemis fire it with her rainbow magic bow.
     
  11. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Always nice to give celestial body a good shanking, helps keep them modest.
     
  12. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    The US military hired Justine Hammer.
     
  13. Pez

    Pez Spaceman

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    Am I the only one looking forward to the Grayven-Artemis duo? She's always been one of the few people to actually seem to like him.
     
  14. Eponymic

    Eponymic Getting sticky.

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    Better things to do than?
    Better things that?
     
  15. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  16. Eponymic

    Eponymic Getting sticky.

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    Is that a James Bond reference?
     
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  17. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Yeah, I always thought he was a bit of a girl too.
     
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  18. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the Harrowings are just as much a distraction from how shitty the Sheeda leadership is as they are a means for acquiring resources.

    That "normal" Sheeda would basically revolt if they weren't being pointed at non-Sheeda to go fuck up.

    Granted, even if they did go to another world they could all still be malicious assholes.
     
  19. Pez

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    *Sheeda Harrowing the latest civilizations.*
    Melmoth: "Are you not entertained?!"
     
  20. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    No, it's a British history reference, and James Bond is (nominally) British. Britain overhauled its currency in... I think 1971? And it became something of a meme to have to convert back and forth between "old money" and "new money" to get an intuitive feel for how much something was actually worth. People don't have to do that anymore because it's been like 50 years since then, but the slang has stuck around as a snarky reference to other similar conversions between old-fashioned and current measurements -- in this case between Fahrenheit and Celsius.
     
  21. Darko

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    Well the Roman leaders used bread and circuses, which involved gladiatorial fights to the death between slaves, to entertain their subjects and make the empire seem powerful even when it was struggling, so you may have a point that the Sheeda leadership are also using such monstrous methods to stay in power.
     
  22. Cuchulin

    Cuchulin Versed in the lewd.

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    The poor also got to eat the meat from the Animals that were killed in the arenas from what I understand.
     
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  23. Darko

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    I doubt the Sheeda rulers are that kind to their subjects.
     
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  24. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Well worn.

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    Well, he is already dating Luna... but is gonna be interesting.
     
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  25. Yog

    Yog Know what you're doing yet?

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    Leaving canon idiocy aside, the following instruments are available:
    1) Foreign debt of Japan. Bug it out, call it in, crash the economy
    2) Import sanctions. Japan is not self sufficient in terms of vital resources, such as oil. Or food. Or materials needed for its industries.
    3) Personal sanctions against the government members.

    It also wouldn't be about foreign companies doing business on the other side. It would, from the start and till near the end, be about national and global security. Markets won't factor into the situation for a long time. Because this is a new phenomenon. One that makes MAD obsolete and also introduces a sh*tton of new security issues.

    The moment gate appears, the whole area will be taken over by the joint forces of the U.N. Security Council and friends (basically everyone important).
     
  26. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Those options are available, but how quickly would they realistically happen?

    And food wouldn't be a problem. That's one thing they can import through the gate relatively quickly and cheaply.
    I doubt that very much. Not with China and the US both having vetoes.
     
  27. PDV

    PDV Revelation That Uncertainty Is Itself An Answer

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    I don't get it. Why those lyrics?
     
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  28. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    You seem to have forgotten a number of things,

    1) The gate is only about 12m wide and in the middle of downtown Tokyo, limiting how much can be transported through it at any one time.

    2) The nations on the other side of the gate are basically a little above subsistence level, meaning they don't have food to spare to feed the tens of millions in Japan.

    3) Food/Import safety standards that make importing alien food problematic and dangerous.

    Why in the world would they Veto it?
     
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  29. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    The US would veto it so China doesn't get anything from the gate and China vetos to stop the US getting anything from the gate.
     
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  30. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    You're forgetting that that would leave Japan with sole control of the gate.

    And neither China nor the US would want that.
     
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