With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Here.

Really hope new chapters start coming up.

 

He he he.

 

Paragon!M'gann refused this, right? Something about how abhorrent Burning Martians were?

 

Don't remember if this ever happened, but they don't even have a method like renegade has.

Paragon did send that Burner to Maltus, but they either aren't focusing on it, or still haven't found a method.

 

AFAIK, the only thing they did with it was use it as the basis for Effigy.

 

My understanding is that Renegade Megan is a Burning Martian, she just looks like a red martian because that's what Burning Martians looked like when they weren't setting themselves on fire in this fic.

And yes, that's an immensely stupid thing to do, so you know, same old same old for Gravy.

Oh anyway, there's a green lantern that comes from a planet of psychics- Symon Terrynce, this storytline reminded me of him.

They're real assholes about it though. They exiled Symon for not being psychic enough, they treat not being a powerful psychic as being an inexcusable parasite on society with one's handicap. Symon wears a mask to hide his identity so as to not shame his family with his presence.

Fortunately for Symon it turns out he was just a late bloomer, so he's now a powerful psychic and a green lantern, who is looking forward to the day in which his telepathy grows past the Guardian's.

 

The way I remember it, Paragon offered to remove the artificial phobia but M'gann refused because she thought it would turn her into a burner.

 

Or humanoid robots and androids. Like some droids in Clone wars and after. EDI especially. She just got that body. It is designed to work as a blended in human. And every time we visit the Citadel it never occurs to anyone to get her some damn armor? To protect that investment? I like the look but I rather not have to revive her so many times!

Link?

 

Here.

Seriously hope Gromweld didn't abandon it and will write some new chapters.

 

I'm not the first to suggest this correction but the last one didn't quote or tag you:

 

When a man with a glowing orange ring beats up you and all your friends, your name is whatever he tells you it is.

 

Off the wall new idea for martian racism.

What if you give white martians some kind of tech that blocks green and red telepathy. Something is different enough they can notice, why cant a device the build and guided by orange light creation not make something? Give one to any white who wants one and have them shapeshift into aliens and have them reintegrate or set up a few cities on far side of mars or somewhere on earth like antarctica (we have a way for bio domes. (i know how many issues it has, i'm just tired of all of us spinning our wheels on a few ideas.)

 

Mostly because the telepathy uses exactly the same mechanism.

The SI is perfectly capable of bulldozing Martian resistance. He isn't doing that because he prefers to work with people if at all possible.

 

I guess some way of blocking the signal of being a white martian. The telepathy is fine but its the auto identifying that is an issue.

Maybe muddy the telepathy of anyone without an implant, so red/greens cant delve deep enough to notice.

I wasn't bringing this up in criticism of how your handling things. Last few months, i have been more invested in Paul/Paragon then i have been for a while. I feel like you have taken criticism from comments and incorporated our misconceptions, expectations and complaints into your work very well. Its just if we the commenters are going to keep discussing the topic with no new ideas, i would rather go more off the wall in my ideas instead of repeating things.

 

While most Martians don't use their shapeshifting to the fullest extent, very few would be interested in getting a static implant. And blocking telepathy is a fairly major escalation of hostilities.

 

It's not really clear to me why the SI is going to all this effort for Colu in particular, as opposed to anything else he could be spending his time on.

I mean, I understand that in general he wants to improve the universe and Colu is in need of help, but he's putting a fair amount of time and effort into solving this particular injustice over millions of others. The SI usually does stuff because:

1. He's living up to a responsibility he accepted.
2. Someone he cares about is involved.
3. He expects to get some utility out of what he's doing that will serve one of his other purposes.
4. It's not his responsibility, but it's a matter he can tackle relatively quickly and without significant sacrifice, so he'll intervene in service of his general sense of making the universe more like he wants it to be.

On the matter of responsibility, it would have been easy for him to say, "Ah well, the Green Lanterns took on this one; I'm sure they'll sort it out sooner or later." On the matter of personal investment, Dox doesn't care that much, and nor does anyone else the SI personally knows. On the matter of utility, it does not seem like he expects to be able to leverage Colu in his efforts elsewhere. Nor is it something he can take care of in basically a few hours, like the eye-gouger planet. He's having to expend a significant amount of time flying back and forth, negotiating with martians and green lanterns to sell them on his idea, and now it seems like he may have to bring in/create a bunch of Genomes as well. It's a significant problem that is taking a lot of effort and whatever telepaths he's recruiting for this I'm sure could also be used in some other urgent task instead.

None of this is, "Oh this is bad writing," or anything because the SI makes choices about what to prioritize all the time, and this isn't all that odd in the greater scheme of things. I'd just like if the story would touch on what got him invested in solving the problem of the Computer Tyrants, even if it's as simple as, "I saw the Matrix once and it bothers me to think of an entire planet trapped like that."

 

I figure helping the Coluans leads to making the universe a slightly better place and he can use the good will of saving them to recruit some of their best individuals for the war effort, to help Vril directly with logistics or to head other departments. Even if none of them are as intelligence as Vril they're still incredibly good at multitasking using advance technology, and combined that with the Martian contingent Paul's recruiting could lead to a break through in how the OLC and NEMO could incorporate Reach technology like the scarabs.

Plus it's likely with a combination of telepathy, advance schizo-tech, and magic could offer an advantage against the Reach who've can't stop Paul but can deal with most Orange Lanterns, since there's no one else who could have saved the previous planets host of eggs without leading to the deaths of countless offsprings.

 

Probably looking for some clue about what happened to Brainiac, or some way to fight him.

 

Coluans are a fairly impressive race, mentally and technically speaking. Even if a small % feel any sort of thanks to the OLC for freeing them from their enforced mental slavery, with a population of 60 billion or so, you'll get a handful that are motivated and skilled enough to help ease some of Vril's workload in a purely logistics and analytics side of the war. Might get a handful that are even Orange Light driven enough to get a group of properly mentally comported lanterns, rather then the Ragnar types that are likely to be dying on the front lines.

The Martians getting some distance from problems at home, external resources that aren't restricted by the caste system, as well as experience with the wider galaxy. This is a 'getting your feet wet' exercise for the species as a whole. Like with the Coluans, but with a much smaller sample size, there are good odds of getting helpful individuals on a non combat level, leading to useful resources for later on. And again, getting maybe one or two martian lanterns could certainly be helpful down the road.

It's a good deed, and while it's time invested, so far he's just had to be polite and offer things that are well within reason for him personally as well as the OLC and LEGION can handle.

OL also builds his reputation and his social contacts, even if the whole thing leads to nothing, he has flown the flag, given his corps some good PR and generally been visibly a good gang to know, even to those only tangentially involved. Those seeds planted will grow as time goes on, and with OL and the Corps, long term thinking is a good thing.

 

Extend -> extent

Maybe someone should take the rings away from Paul for a bit.

/s

 

I think I need a bumper sticker of this.

 

Each of these sentences has three ' , when it should only be "

maybe 'is a'

You can just use zhe if you're not sure what the gender of someone is.

 

I think it was just some banter between the two of them to lighten the mood.

 

"Oh? And why is that?"

"Because this is literally a fictional universe and I'm a self insert"

"...what?"

"Don't worry about it"

"But..."

"Don't. Wory about it"

 

to -> of

I'm pretty sure that's to indicate the translation that Paul is being provided with.

 

I can’t tell if he’s joking.

 

Playing the part of foreign language interpreter, I see. And telling two differetn groups different stories about how dangerous his mind might well set his cause back, as the ones told it's more dangerous assume he believes that they're inferior...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length (and resized for clarity)

I'm sure Mister Jarr'kin could provide some quite interesting memories of thoughts he's experienced.

More of an informal system, then. I suppose telepathy does make matters much clearer on the political front. Imagine if Earth politicians had to lay all their real reasons for motions and proposals out like that...

Good. Maybe she'll see just how foolish her beliefs are... But more likely that she'll just decide the rest are misguided fools, if not outright heretics...

Hmm... I sense a drama bomb being prepared there. What's the bet something is going to explode, culturally if not literally.

So he's arguing that.. they should keep their noses out of each other's yards unless it's something that effects everyone? Dude is hard to follow...

Dude's basically trying to filibuster, isn't he? Or is he such a crashing bore no-one really cares?

Ha, what a name for him. Still, shouldn't the council offer general guidelines for the cities to follow? Basic standards of.. uh, Humanity, (Martianity? ) to pardon the phrasing? For the rest to take note of.

Given that until now, there would be few places for anyone to go other than another city, I'm not surprised it's up in the air.

Ah, 'keep your fingers out of our business.' Which when it comes down it it is a pretty clear declaration against OL's goals.

So it wouldn't be a total failure. Economic and social sanctions then.

That's a fair sign you caught her by surprise with that one. I wonder, have there been wars like that in recent Martian history? Not simply arguments, but all-out kill-or-be-killed battles? I mean, martians would be tremendously hard to kill, after all. Would their fighting mostly be them staring at each other until one screams and collapses as their mental shields break?

I doubt many will want to stand by those principles...

'Statist' meaning he wants individual communities to make their own plans for this situation?

Yeah, that group gaining dominance would pretty much lock down his plans for Colu.

Gee, external influence shaking up the status quo and disrupting the social order. You'd think he was important or something...

The topic being the racial tensions? Or OL's offer and the implications of it?

Colu is in no rush for freedom. The hostages are being cared for, because damaging them would lessen their captors. It's merely a matter of time...

Everyone's the hero of their own story, and all that.

OL will have his say soon, then. That'll be tricky.

Ah... He just wants the rest of the universe to leave them alone so things can settle down again? How very pedestrian of him.

I don't doubt he has opinions, but he's clearly very good at keeping them to himself...

Such an OL thing to say...

Well, that was informative... Looks like many prelates are more concerned with keeping peace than external affairs. I mean, with OL keeping himself shielded, we don't know how the crowd is reacting, unless his interpreter tells him... Let's hope tomorrow helps make things a little clearer.

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And because telepathy is a two-way street

It is not the extent of our involvement with aliens.

"Which would in effect mean that we lose."

 

He must be, as surely any enlightened person would understand that thinking that is erroneous nonsense when I am alive, and thus the most important person in the universe.

 

Mildly confused about what you were correcting for a moment there.

No, that's correct. S'yrra is quoting what the witness is saying.

Thank you, corrected.

I could, but I'm already using that for sexes which don't fit the plug/socket system.