With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Thank you, corrected.

Yes, it does have that advantage.

No, the two go together. If you were told that waving around a red flag would make a crate of food appear, you wouldn't believe it. Even if it turned out that the red flag was a standard sign to request aid and the food was teleported in. Alonzo is saying that even if the claim turned out in part to be true, he wouldn't believe it until he understood the mechanism.

Some people play Total Warhammer like that. Give a fighty lord the Sword of Khaine and solo armies.

 

Bring. Me. Battle.

Edit:This post has been enhanced with additional unending carnage. For Khorne!

 

This right here. If you rule a small group, you can spend all day fucking, drinking, and beating people.
If you rule a country, you have to do shitloads of executive work, and try to work in the fucking, drinking, and beating whenever you have a free spot in your schedule.

 

So Paul is the equivalent of a Maltusian baby.

Alan may be disappointed.

'an army'

'safeties'

Is the next episode paragon or renegade focused?

 

Aww, how cute :3

Baby's First Mind Altering, Planet Destroying Weapon


"You don't know him? He's the most powerful member of the Maltusian government!"

"What? But he isn't Maltusian?"

"No, he is their babysitter whenever they need a break. They all do whatever he wants!"

 

Sooo, is he thinking of giving that ring to Alan to complete his apotheosis?

 

Zoat, in the spoiler box page this chapter has 19th August above it.

Either change the date on this chapter or the one in the spoiler box page.

 

Thank you, corrected.

The focus of the next episode is the SI.

 

So, are you using the lore from Blackest Night and Brightest Day and the characters in this scene just don’t know about it, or is our lovely lady friend lying to us about the origin of light, lanterns, rings and the technology thereof?

 

Well, that's anti-climactic. But then, she's tied directly to Spectrum energies. A ring is not as powerful as she is in its' manipulation. But for the mundane mortals of the universe, it's still a step up...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Given the Ring has the 'charge ∞' trait, I would be hard pressed to refuse. The extra charge would be useful, I guess. On the other hand, if it requires the same level of mental realignment, regardless of color...

...Please, that's not really an image I want. God, could you imagine her with pregnancy munchies, or mood swings?

So it becomes more about protecting the environment from the children. Talk about an 'enfant terrible'... A tantrum might lay waste to a whole planet, if not an entire system...

Yes, there're few races that can make kryptonians look squishy... But maltusians are pretty high on, if not at the top of, that list...

A gulf of difference closer in size to the Pacific Ocean, if you will...

And that assuming you haven't been rattling your faculties with chemical entertainments... An Orange Ring being everything but chemical...

...That's what you take away from that? Goddammit, OL. She basically called you a toddler! You are like a baby to her. A quirky, trouble-prone baby that thankfully managed to achieve toilet-training. AKA Enlightenment.

And if it's that much stronger than a regular Ring... What does that say about them?

So... Meadlux was trying to reinvent the wheel? Or rather, the training wheel? ...Blade said it best: "There's always some motherfucker trying'a ice-skate uphill."

Krona, if my memory serves me correctly. No point razzing Hinon over it.

And not the one who oversaw the project. That would just scream of corrupted experimental results.

No, seriously, don't... I rather suspect it's something of a sore point for her.

Evidently someone forgot to set logical bounds on their adaptive AI. You're lucky they only decided, "If crime is committed by the living, then all life must be judged at fault." The last time I saw that logic, it resulted in Judge Death and friends.

Man, that must have been one hell of a day in the Guardians' chambers...

Yes, we've noticed how Greenies tend to be unbending and rigidly stubborn, to stupid extents...

Ah, so my analogy of a firehose compared to a squirt-gun is more apt than I thought. Unfortunately, those safeties would be there for a reason, eh?

And minds less adapted to that level of exposure than a maltusian tend to break under the stress? At least that helps to remind us why Orange Lanterns aren't so 'Mine-MINE-MINE!" crazy as Larfleeze was. They're getting it filtered through more layers than the 'straight from the battery' treatment he did.
Like, say, Orange Juice. Lanterns are getting their stuff strained and sweetened. Larfleeze was getting it straight from the juicer, gristle, pulp and all

Less filtered, and thus more stressful on the mental weak-points of the wearer. And the Lanterns whole stole them broke.

To continue the analogy, OL-Phidian was eating the oranges. Whole. I don't think that's an improvement...

Somethign you've been havign a little trouble with after your last death. Maybe spend a bit of time communing with Best Snek?

Why would a maltusian child need that? Their minds are built to control the Spectrum. It only takes a matter of time to learn self-control...

...OL, No. Do not go fiddling with a good thing. Guy is fine as he is.

So, don't mind any yelling in the next couple of hours. Got you.

A fine summation of 'experimental rings bad for little mortals'. And some nice insight into Maltusian developmental logistics, and the early history of the Guardians. How much of it is stuff Hinon dumbed down for OL, and thus the audience, to understand is debatable... Still, it looks like things are all wrapped up for the Yuna mission, bar Dox's shouting. Or at least passive-aggressive grumping.

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"Given that that was the day I left...

 

Did you really expect anything different from Paul?

Now if only he learned other skills.

And banishing a lot of people to a cornfield.

Though that could also be how they were before they got the ring, or just started becoming more like that by themselves without influence from the Green Light, because it helped them use their rings better.

It hasn't stopped him before.

 

We've been getting a lot of really old lore lately, so it's likely that that's taking precedence. I suspect that at this point Zoat's seething dislike towards Post-Flashpoint material probably means that the closer one gets to flashpoint, the less 'canon' any given material is.

Even though DC had two more crisis/timeline resets since then, even going so far as to undo Flashpoint's major changes, they're still ruining Green Lantern. Just... ugh. There's some neat ideas in there, but also a lot of stupid. Maybe the new canon will be better now that Golden/Silver age is in mainline continuity again, but I doubt it.

 

Given that's not how/why the rings were created in any continuity the real question this chapter is whether Hinon was lying to paragon or whether Zoat decided to rewrite everything for no real reason.

 

I'm curious on whether or not Paul actually has a plan for that ring, which is why he asked that in the first place. Maybe he can have Alan dual wield, since he's already got a green center inside his blue shell?

 

Curious about what the effects of having all seven standard flavors of Malthusian Child Rings would be, because “You are the Life Entity.” Is my unbaked thought.

 

I'm not using the stupid First Lantern version of Volthoom, if that's what you're referring to.

I don't believe that's been established in this story.

Thank you, corrected.

 

Huh. Must have gotten the wrong impression from earlier comments (Found it: Webxro mentioned a 'Ring which didn't need charging' after chapter 15 that went uncommented on and I leapt on that and the desirability... Mea Culpa. I'll go back and edit my assumptions in a bit...) Still, I'm sure there's some benefits for an Orange Ring of its style... Some minor buff Hinon didn't care to mention...

 

I ate a mini-orange whole once. I can confirm it's very much so not an improvement to fresh juice.

I... I feel like that says more about me than anything.

Don't do stupid, kids.

Edit:I really am just that stupid, huh? Fixed punctuation.

 

... don’t do stupid, kids. I made a stupid comment that had its entire meaning changed because I quoted your statement and it doesn’t have a comma in it.

 

Spoiler: Just proving my own point.

 

We all know the real reason behind the Manhunters is comic books, but if I wanted to rationalize them in this story here's an idea.

In this story Zoat has occasionally emphasized that "Guardians of the Universe" is a puffed-up and entirely inaccurate title. His version of the Guardians the Green Lantern Corps only patrol the local galaxy. I get that. Given the mind-bogglingly large size of the universe, if you tried to split it up 3600 ways each Lantern would be patrolling galaxies like grains of sand. However, the title "Guardians of the Universe" shows the scope of their ambitions, doesn't it? They would like to patrol the universe, but it's impossible.... so long as you're depending on an organization that has to be personally run by a handful of Guardians and reports back to them. Thus the emphasis on the Manhunters as independent. A self-regulating, self-perpetuating swarm of aggressively hegemonizing Justice Machines to swarm the Universe. Talk about dreaming big.

 

The fact the thing STILL didn't have a remote shutdown... no wonder the Guardians would give any decent engineer ulcers.

 

The rings were stolen out of a laboratory on Oa. They were never meant to be released into the wild.

 

I forget, do we know how they were stolen from Oa in the first place? I think the Free Lancers just got the ring from that gone-evil/crazy Green Lantern, right?

The existence of someone both capable of breaching security on Oa and actively willing to do so seems like a major issue. The first crack-y idea that popped into my head were Indigo Lanterns, since it's been a while since we've seen them.

 

Wrong.

From the FAQ that nobody reads including Zoat-

"All parts of the galaxy not specifically excluded by treaty have Lanterns assigned to them, as well as parts of intergalactic space and good chunks of the two nearest galaxies. Within a Sector forty-fifty inhabited worlds is the norm. Outside this area a major problem may well receive the attention of an Honour Guard strike force, with perhaps a garrison if the problem looks to be ongoing. The Corps is slowly expanding (Rot Lop Fan's homeworld is a highly radioactive place in intergalactic space) but the bigger it gets the harder it is to run and there aren't more Guardians to whom the existing ones can pass on responsibility."

So their territory extends into three galaxies and the intergalactic space between them.

 

The only one that I don't know how he's coping with his job is Clarissi Salaak.

The Guardians are a few, and as Maltusians they are able to do more than a few things at the same time and they are already at the limit of what they can cope with their responsibilities. How the fuck does Salaak manage his responsibilities as administrative commander of the Corps?

Oh, and regarding this crazy ring, have we seen the son of Abin Sur? I think we have but I can't recall. If not him, maybe it's Manhunter plot to discredit the Green Lanterns? Or it could be Sinestro?

 

we saw sur’s kid when OL fought the dude with the anti monitors armor fragment. He’s a dick and a pirate

 

We saw him in the Ways and Means episode.

He tried to steal a fleet of ships and give it to pirates so they could raid Sector 2814.

Paul stopped him and arrested him.

 

Oh and for anyone wondering, in the comics yes child Maltusians are dangerous.

"Send you to the cornfield" dangerous.

For example, Maltus used to have a mosquito equivalent.

Then one bit a Malthusian child, and the child made the entire species disappear.

So the Maltusians decided not to have kids to save the universe from genocidal temper tantrums.

Which the writers remembered for a long time, even when the Guardians reconciled with the Zamarons and decided to create a new generation, they went to another universe for everyone's safety.

Which makes Kyle bringing the Guardians back as children a rather bad idea, though. lol