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Emma Barnes, Princess (Worm/Princess the Hopeful)

Discussion in 'Questing' started by Lord Ultimus, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. 1986ctcel

    1986ctcel Connoisseur.

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    Hearts is only neck and neck with Storms because people have also split the vote over the other options

    Storms-36
    Hearts-36
    Swords-5
    Spades-4
    Tears-4
    Mirrors-1

    See? If the Swords and Spades voters switched to Hearts then even if the Tears and Mirrors voters backed Storms instead of switching to Hearts then Hearts would win
     
  2. Lord Ultimus

    Lord Ultimus Gone for Good

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    Personal life is getting in the way. Voting is extended until this afternoon.
     
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  3. Navrin

    Navrin Experienced.

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    How is that even remotely relevant to "what if your not voting causes those horrible atrocities to be committed"? I don't believe that my presence is particularly likely to end a vote-split (or cause it, for that matter). As such, my presence's value is still approximately one vote against performing evil. And having that kind of power struggle going on is not something I'd enjoy.

    Also, I'll note that several of those people have moved from Swords to Storms instead of Hearts. I don't think you can count on people keeping to Radiant vs Twilight.
     
  4. Balatro Philologus

    Balatro Philologus Still finds own avatar hilarious

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    [X] Grace (Choose Presence or Manipulation for one Transformed Attribute dot)
    -[X] Manipulation
    [X] Hearts
    Because I really don't want to play as contagious Gavel 2.0 (also manip seems to be a more Emma attribute)
     
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  5. hamburgler

    hamburgler Gone for Good

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    [X] Grace
    -[X] Prescence
    [X]Hearts
     
  6. Omegahugger

    Omegahugger Inattentive Idiot

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    The Court of Storms would not approve of Gavel.

    He didn't just accidentally harm Cape-families in his crusade against villany, he outright targeted them. That is not the Tempestas way. There's a difference between shooting a terrorist through his hostage and outright shooting a civilian so the terrorist doesn't get the chance to take the hostage to begin with.

    Plus there's the whole part where none of us Storm-voters actually plan to play like that, even if it was a fitting Storm-interpretation.
     
  7. Balatro Philologus

    Balatro Philologus Still finds own avatar hilarious

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    Ah, in that case I apologize for miss-characterizing your stance, I'm still voting hearts due to preference.
     
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  8. Lord Ultimus

    Lord Ultimus Gone for Good

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    Ok, Voting is CLOSED!
    Let's see what the final count is!

    Storms-42
    Hearts-42
    Swords-2
    Spades-4
    Tears-4
    Mirrors-1

    Ok, rolling, 1 gets storms, 2 gets hearts.
    ...

    Hearts it is!Will start working on the next part ASAP
     
  9. Navrin

    Navrin Experienced.

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    If people are investigating "ballot stuffing" I'd advise them to look at every single vote, not just those that they want to find as potentially false. (And, of course, the QM has final say over the quest in every way other than whether or not the players participate and to what degree they do)
     
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  10. 1986ctcel

    1986ctcel Connoisseur.

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    Because two entirely new accounts on two separate sites made 30 minutes before the vote ended with their only posts being in these threads and for a highly contentious and nearly tied vote isn't suspicious AT ALL :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Navrin

    Navrin Experienced.

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    Of course they're suspicious. However, looking only at whichever ones catch your eye is very subject to confirmation bias. One of the more obvious cheats is to just have accounts on two or three of the sites all voting for what you want.

    Besides, they could easily be people who've been lurking and decided to join up so they could vote.
     
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  12. NS_QTR

    NS_QTR Contradiction

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    I did, actually. Went through all three threads. Those are the only accounts who voted with such a recent join date and low message count.
     
  13. Navrin

    Navrin Experienced.

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    Which is precisely one form of suspicious. And suspicious isn't confirmation at all. There probably was cheating of some form or other going on... however, how much it affected both sides is REALLY difficult to figure out. Especially with the voting between three different fora.
     
  14. Broken

    Broken Your first time is always over so quickly, isn't it?

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    I will repit here what i already said at SV: I will change my vote to storms. I don't like useless discussions.
     
  15. Navrin

    Navrin Experienced.

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    It is entirely up to the QM whether that is accepted. After all, it's past the voting period and the vote has been called.
     
  16. Megaolix

    Megaolix Moderator

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    This story is now over. Lord Ultimus violated rule 4 (No duplicate accounts) with the account hamburgler. Both accounts are now banned permanently.
     
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  17. zeitgeist

    zeitgeist Getting out there.

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    So for those of you who don't follow the SV thread, I talked with TheLordUltimus and he asked me to crosspost his explanation of what happened.


    1. Again for those not on SV, another member actually found out that his vote count was wrong and that storms actually won by a fair margin.

    This being said, he'll be continuing the quest on SV, calling for a new vote this time without any twilight courts since a lot of the people who voted for hearts did so only because it wasn't storms and a lot of the storms probably have a second favorite in mind.

    Onto the next order of business

    Ultimus also wanted me to crosspost updates and explanations from there, and tell him the vote count. Essentially, taking over the running of the quest on QQ. It's been a while since I've really been on the forum....I think two years maybe so I'm not too aware of how board rules might have come to be interpreted, but reading the rules thread their doesn't seem to be anything against this. Still, I'd like to double check with the staff first to see if your fine with it.
     
  18. Megaolix

    Megaolix Moderator

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    It may not be against the rules, but it's more because that kind of scenario is qutie unusual. why not just give a link and then be done with?
     
  19. zeitgeist

    zeitgeist Getting out there.

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    Err, I know, understand, and agree with why Ultimus was banned, I was asking whether or not it was against the rules for me to post his updates, gather votes, ect here. I agree that rule 4 is more then reasonable and clear, sorry for the mix up.

    Their already happens to be one on the first post, I believe. The reason Ultimus wants to have a active thread here is that a number of voters don't really frequent SV or have a account there to vote, such as Navrin stated earlier in the thread. For those people, it'd probably be less of a hassle for them to have one they can check here instead of havign to frequent a forum they don't really participate in much or risk missing out on updates.
     
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  20. Megaolix

    Megaolix Moderator

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    No no, I was the one that misread the post in haste, hence why I deleted that first post. It was truly my fault here.

    I'm going to talk to others staff members on this because the situation is unusual. I'll come back to you later on this.
     
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  21. zeitgeist

    zeitgeist Getting out there.

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    No problem, everyone makes mistakes. XD


    Fair enough. I'll be eagerly waiting the staff's response.
     
  22. Megaolix

    Megaolix Moderator

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    And I have one. Ultimus is banned and thus there's no reason to allow quest running by proxy. Readers are going to have to make the effort to go on SV and vote there if they want to vote.
     
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  23. zeitgeist

    zeitgeist Getting out there.

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    Oh well. I'm disappointed, but I understand why. Thanks anyway for your time, and best wishes.