With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Thank you, corrected.

 

If I remember Hal's thoughts from 'Green Lantern: Rebirth', it's because Guy can't wait to take action. His sheer drive and determination to do good makes the energy spark and crackle even at rest. If this Jordan has been as frustrated by Earth as it seems, I'm not surprised he's eager.

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Ah, the posture of the old, confident warhorse who knows he doesn't have anything to prove to anyone. Much less the patsy of the alien Guardians, who's pretty much a traitor to Earth's sovereignty...

...Don't make a right? Trying to convince the wrong people of that, Jordan.

Ah, this will be interesting, to see his reaction to other Lanterns of unknown colours.

Of course, that may not be true around here. And I doubt the Guardians would confirm it if it was.

Well, the Maltusian-equivalent term. Translation convention and all that.

Bitch, he formed his Corps, he gets whatever title he wants.

...Not yet. But if they ever manage to convince Kalmin or certain Guardians to make more Blue Rings...

A rebel Weaponer. Technically.

Jordan's probably figuring Earth 16 is an evil-dominant universe, isn't he? He's the sort of fellow to have such a monochromatic view of things.

Well, we can assume Mars is dead, and any of the other inhabited planets and moons of the system can take care of themselves...

Bah, as if he'd be able to manage it. The Green Ring probably only allows for passengers at FTL when transporting prisoners or refugees...

Yes, well, your homeworld has seen some shit. Why are you not surprised that they're a little gunshy of extra-terrestrials?

To be fair, I'm amazed the Guardians haven't simply declared Earth a minimum-protection planet. No Lanterns allowed. Like Korugar after Sinestro.

What's the matter, other species not up for a booty call, fly-boy?

I know, it's a liberating concept, isn't it?

I hope they're not drinking anything when they see his report on this mission, at least. Though the details may make them want to start...

Better than locking them up billions of lightyears from home in 'Sciencells' for rehabilitation.

Sir Integra Wingates Fairbrook Hellsing: "Good lord, it's strange to see this from the outside..."

I mean, with a little adjustment, it may well work for a JLU-style support organisation.

And that's being nice about it.

Hmm... A chance to reform the Justice Society properly, perhaps?

I wonder what they call a 'disappearing while someone's not looking' in this universe. No Batman, after all.

Oh, boy, is Jordan going to be in for a lesson in ring-slinging. I did enjoy the simple way OL described his achievements, though. No boasting, no pridefulness, just facts. Though I suspect whatever Guardian ends up reading Jordan's report while have a momentary panic attack when he sees the names OL dropped. Now, the biggest question becomes what will OL and the other recon party members find when they arrive?

 

OK, it's been long enough that I'm quoting this instead of editing it. The episode is called Coup Data, and the scene I was referring to is in this post and the one following.

 

Why does the Green Lantern SOP undermine local authorities? I honestly don't get why Paul is so hostile to them.

I mean, they aren't talking about pocket thieves here, but frequently beings powerful enough to sterilise worlds.

 

I wanna read that comic.

SOP bible? What's that?

 

No, I think you are thinking of silver age, where Robby Reed has to fight the bodyswitched villains.

That panel was from Silver Age 80 page giant, in which the villains steal a kryptonian crystal, the central power battery, and the absorbascan, make themselves lanterns who know every tactic, power, and ability of the heroes, making them undefeatable until the JLA borrowed the hero dial and became new heroes with different powers and abilities and hence tactics.

Dr Light was the orange lantern in that group, by the by.

I imagine Paul was glad to not be compared to him.

What with Dr Light being a rapist who got himself brainfucked by the League so badly that he went on to lose to a couple of kids.

It wasn't a fair fight, one of the kids had a baseball bat and wasn't afraid to use it.

Standard Operating Procedure. In short he wants to go the League and say "Guys, here are some ideas that were shown to work in another universe."

And that panel was from Silver Age 80-page giant, as mentioned above.

 

Standards and operating procedures. S-O-P.

Basically how the JSI organize things and day to day operations.

 

Pfft, any real intellectual knows Paragon was referring to Best Girl.

 

In this story the Ophidian SI was pretty confident that it comes from Guy suppressing his desire for action and forcing himself to stop.

While it's difficult to tell from the picture since Dr. Light wears white gloves and none of the hands shown in the lower image have white gloves, I think that the green ring on the left is supposed to he Dr. Light's.

 

I think it's more that it undermines the Green Lantern's authority: there's nothing stopping a world's local authorities from freeing someone a Lantern has seen commit a severe crime, whether intentionally or in the Put Joker In Prison sense, as an example.

There's reasons to make that tradeoff, just as there's reasons that the Green Lanterns are supposed to focus on interplanetary concerns, but Paul's nature emphasizes control, even if he doesn't see the parallels with Hinon yet.

 

I'm assuming it's because the local authorities appear to rely on foreign aid in order to deal with their problems and that puts their strength and competence into question.

Paul did once mention something like this when he said that Green Lanterns could sometimes imprison people themselves instead of giving them to another authority since they think they could either be punished too severely or not punished all that much.

 

Later panels definitely show that Element had a red ring, and Chronos and Light both had orange rings. I failed to notice that Chronos had an orange ring the first time I read it.

There was no villain shown to have a green ring other than Faust outside of that one panel, and they are all accounted for other than Black Manta's, who is definitely wielding a red or orange ring in that one panel.

So editing seemed to have fallen down on the job on that issue.

 

Kalmin is actually pretty good at following what Weaponers do.

The rest of his society had a momentary slip up on that though.

To be fair, if you had had a conversation with Paul, wouldn't you think that there's something wonky going on in that universe?

Maybe they didn't do that with this universes version of Korugar.

Also the Korugar situation was them responding to their negligence in managing their own forces by giving the Korugarans more freedom from them, but this Earth did not suffer such a situation so the Guardians may not see it as necessary to do the same thing.

Not necessarily.

There don't seem to be any Orange Lanterns in thise universe, so the Guardians may not have much practical knowledge on the dangers of one of them, just academic ones because of their study of the Spectrum.

 

I think that should say 'that'.

How many people will even realize how impressive Greedporting is?

 

I love the update! I'm looking forward to seeing more of this Hal Jordan. And any and all interactions between the SI and the Commander.

Shouldn't that be "spun"?

 

'Orange Lantern' may not ring the alarm bells.

But 'Hinon Hee Hannanan' very well might.

And 'Krona' will light off panic signals visible from the next galaxy over.

 

No, it's fine as it is.

If a Guardian checks Jordan's scans, they will.

That would be gramatically correct. However, 'span' is what the character said.

 

Always good to see Paul put someone in their place. But poor Hal: getting a ring meant not being able to go home, it's like the Reach had expressed interest in Earth without the hope that the Reach could be kicked off.

...I mean. Canon Jade doesn't seem to have the highest success rate.

 

Not necessarily.

This Earth seems to be fairly xenophobic, so they may deny the Reach an invitation.

Granted, the Reach has probably figured out ways to manipulate highly xenophobic societies, so they may be able to do the same with this Earth.

 

The JSI also does propaganda work, so the Reach would face a media machine actively resisting them instead of the Light's anti-hero campaigning.

Not saying the Reach couldn't win such a battle, but they'd actually have to work for it on JSI earth.

 

They do, though. OL's trick is that he uses very thin construct lines to connect to the actual thing he's making. He's even observed that while this does help with making his tactics harder to see coming, it's more susceptible to construct disruption. This is usually the right choice for most opponents, though.

 

But the construct lines don't need to be directly attached to his ring, do they? Or am I misremembering? I thought the subtle filaments just needed to be connected to his environmental shield? That's how he sends lines through the ground, generating the filaments from his feet and stuff.

 

Reformed/Reforming bad girls is his kink.

Jade, Luna, Blackfire, Cheshire and so on.

 

Two of those are the same person, and Luna came pre-reformed.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Paul is the genderswapped version of the Good Girl that tries to fix the Bad Boy.

 

Wasn't Renegade also into Queen Bee?

 

Don't remember that.

I know he seemed to at least respect her capabilities as a ruler, even if he disagreed with her other choices.

He probably mentioned being attracted and wanting to romance her to mess with someone else.

It sounds like something he'd do.

 

He said she was attractive, but I don't think he actually said that he himself was attracted to her.

 

There's a difference between finding someone attractive and actually liking or caring about them.

Considering Gravy's response to finding out she got herself killed by one of his security drones was basically "Anyway..." I'd say Gravy didn't actually like her at all, the charms of an evil Deanna Troi notwithstanding.

 

Plus Paul and Grayven have done a lot to reform villains in general. While Paul is bi, I don't think he had a thing for Captain Cold, Abra Kadabra, or Dr. Sivana. Same with Grayven and Circe or Luthor.

My point was more as a comparison of both situations making it so a Green Lantern can't go home. JSI refuses to let Hal in, and any planet with the Reach means that planet's GL can't go home.

Even if xenophobic, there's still a point that the JSI would let the GLs in if they followed certain protocols. Protocols are something the Reach are very good at appearing to follow. In fact, no doubt they would be willing to gift a human who wants to join the JSI with a scarab, providing the JSI with a very capable warrior without the downsides of tearing off pieces of oneself to replace with machinery. As a sign of friendship, of course.