With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Given I'm pretty sure Jack has a crush on her... That's not really a question likely to get a no...

 

Yeah, it'll be a few years before he turns up again. Optimus always does. But in the meantime... That leaves everyone with rather a conundrum. What with a major Decepticon leader expecting potentially divine assistance.
(Edit: Whoops, wrong continuity. )

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Boy, she's taking it hard, isn't she? Femme's always had a bigger heart than she pretends to.

Yeah, Prime Wheeljack is like that. Quite a shift if you were used to his G1 mad quirky scientist characterisation.

And you were lucky to manage that, too.

Oooh, yeah. I don't think most of them knew the Council did that sort of stuff.

Yes, former Senator on the case. The big cheese had... Opinions about how things should be, of course.

Yeah, yeah, Steve, we see you. Making yourself useful, I see.

...I don't see that going too well. Too much bad blood between Logical!Shockwave and... Pretty much everyone.

And probably a facelift. He had a handsome face, he deserves to get it back, after all.

Though a change of colour scheme might also help. All that purple is not the best look, especially if he gets his old face back.

Drawing upon vague memories of G1 cartoon and comic metaknowledge, eh?

Alchemist Prime, for example. At this point, though, straight up knocking on the ground and praying might prove more effective...

It would probably require more energon than currently exists to re-fire the Forge. Unless you tried Nucleon or something... But there may be side-effects.

Ah, the old Clarke's Third Law in action. I'm sure there are more things in Allspark and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, old 'bot.

For good reasons, I take it.

Yeah, okay, that's a damn good reason.

As seen in 'Orion Pax, part 3'. If anyone wanted to rewatch it somehow.

...Only if you're Cybertronian.

See, old 'bot, the squishy little people can be useful!

I rather think it'd take rather a while if Pull had to do it himself.

Although it would mean letting humans have access to Cybertron. Which may be a little awkward. And difficult, given the enviornmental concerns. No breathable atmosphere, after all.

Because someone happens to have a key. But good luck getting his mother to agree to it.

Surprisingly good advice, given what Pull's managed to far with just talk-fu.

Oh, look, another human-Cybertronian romance. Seems to be a popular thing in this universe, doesn't it?

Good to see this B-plot is still playing out. Let's hope this plan works. If only to make sure that Shockwave doesn't undergo any backsliding. It may be a long time before Cybertron enters a new Golden Age, but having one of the greatest scientific minds involved will make it a bit faster. Oh, and enabling a fun little bit of romance won't hurt either.

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"You are so full of sludge. No Autobot would-."

 

Wow Paul could you have said that in a worse way?

 

I'm kinda digging the TFP side story.

 

Is it just me or are random evil goons named Steve that go to the good guys very common?

First it was The Owl House and now this.

 

I want Rachet to see real magic. Even if it's from another universe, that should blow his processors.

Even after spending time with humans, Rachet, and other Cybertronians, continue to underestimate them.

 

it not like he wrong

magic is just a way to control mana

so it is a technology that they don't understand, not that it too advance for them to comprehend

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

It's a lot more interesting then the main story that's for sure.

I blame the fact we have a Paul that can't just steamroll his way over everything.

 

It really sounds like something a Gotham crime lord or a New God from Apokolips would say

 

That's actually the wrong Optimus; Cyberverse is a seperate continuity altogether. But he does return in the Aligned continuity partway through Robots in Disguise, after being trained by the Thirteen in the Realm of the Primes to be ready to battle Megatronus, aka The Fallen.

There's actually another interesting possibility here, given Zoat's working in parts of IDW2005 Shockwave's backstory for Aligned Shocker here. Specifically - that panel used to illustrate the Senator's face? Note what he's introducing to his fellow Senators: the Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology. Which was basically Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters with Shockwave as Professor X; IDW2005 had the concept of Outliers, technically 'possessing abilities that have no apparent connection to their alternate mode' and in functional terms having superpowers, which included Glitch/Tarn's ability to talk people to death, Thundercracker's sonic booms, Skywarp's teleporting, and Mindwipe's telepathy (among others). If that was a thing here, 'superhero Cybertronians' would be interesting, especially if we hit another Crisis Event...

...and while he didn't have any actual powers over death, if he keeps looking for 'how to resurrect a Cybertronian' Paul here might hear rumors of the Necrobot...

 

Nice seeing how Paul is surprised about Optimus sacrifice.

I really appreciate that Paul respects Optimus as a good person and a leader, although not his leader.

A good way of pointing out at the start of the way neither side was innocent but later the Autobots cleaned up their act and the Decepticons really lost their way. Also nice to see that even though Optimus is gone, the Autobots are taking his lessons to heart or spark whichever is the case by accepting Shockwave.

It would help signal the end of the war and could serve as an excuse for why the events of Robots in Disguise never happen. Though maybe some Decepticon lunatics try to free Unicron as a weapon for the cause. Where is the Chaos Bringer being kept anyway?

The Transformer Multiverse would argue about not being able to resurrect a dead Transformer but I suppose the Aligned universe might have that limit. By the way I'm pretty sure Prima was only ever called that and never Prima Prime.

I would argue with there being no magic, Primus and Unicron were not just highly advanced robots, they were gods or at least powerful probably powerful energy beings who gained robotic vessels. So it stands to reason their powers were at least akin to magic and certainly not technology. Also I feel I should point out that the Forge of Solus Prime was broken by Predaking though in the Robots in Disguise comics it was apparently repaired.

Quintessa was exclusive to the Michael Bay films and had no presence in the other universes, what's her story here?

A good way of reinforcing the alliance between Transformers and humans.

Jack is now by great technicality the last Prime and truly is the only one who can help them. Are he and Arcee a couple?

Have they ever met before?

Well, Paul could have made that sound less sinister.

 

It is not difficult to underestimate someone who is significantly less strong/durable on a ‘per ton’ basis and a tiny fraction of your mass.

Saying that magic is just technology is much like saying biology is just chemistry which is just physics which is just maths. Technically true, from a certain point of view, but utterly worthless for all practical purposes.

 

She doesn't exist. It is the Quintesson homeworld, as per the link. Going there can net you the Sharkticon Matrix of Leadership.

No and no. Jack suffered character decay in series 3 thanks to this halfwit, to the point that Miko was making better decisions than him.

No. Actually, the way Arcee just sort of walked off at the end of series 3 was kind of harsh on him.

Yes.

 

I knew about the planet, I was talking about the entity, the so called Prime of life, but I had no idea the Sharkticon Matrix existed. Though to be fair I haven't read the novel where it appears and only read a few things about it. Thanks for letting me know about it.

He is still the only one who can grant them access to Vector Sigma.

Ok then

I'm not sure I would count that as having actually met.

 

I think Borderlands did it first actually, or at least before The Owl House- the bandit that goes "Hey O" in promotional work is named steve- he shows up by name in the second Poker Night at the Inventory.

 

Gotta say, I’m liking the the transformers arc

 

Sorry, that was supposed to be 'doesn't'.

 

My brother in Primus, your species has physically intractable souls forged by a small g god who was himself forged by a primordial being that predates the universe and two of his apostles specifically were into spiritualism and magic.

 

'used'

'becomes'

"any of"

 

Relationship counselor Paul is always a treat.

 

Mr Zoat on the episode directory, Feasibility Study (Part 15) goes to part 9 instead.

 

Ah, actually like this, less God Mode, more actual story.

 

Meatcepticon, I like it. This Pull guy has some really good advice, although I suppose it comes from experience of already "conjuxing" with a Transformer. Now there's a new innuendo term for my vocabulary.

 

Okay other than the four we got for Transformers are there any others?

 

Thank you, corrected.

I'm sorry? I don't understand your question.

 

I’m asking if there was any other posts for Transformers other than the latest ones you already gave us.

 

Hmm, jumping back in time about five minutes. Presumably going to meet with Jack about the whole 'unofficial Prime access', which we saw a moment of at the end of the last chapter... I have the feeling this is going to be amusingly awkward.

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My, what must Slipstream think, her man riding with another femme?

Because of course she named her holo-avatar. Even though 'R.C' could be a usable nickname.

I do hope the Autobots at least got the basics of human reproductive urges in their briefing packages... Otherwise, this could be almost as awkward as 'Transformers Animated's moment where Optimus hears about the birds and the bees from Sari Sumdac...

And I think we all can guess which thing Pull here means.

Miko Nakadai, Bulkhead's human partner. She has something of a crush on the big lug... She's also 15.

Well, that's ultimately up to Jack. Or maybe his mother, if he wants them before his eighteenth birthday.

Yeah, if nothing else, so she can slap some sense into him while he argues with her kneecaps... Seriously, the height difference is so awkward.

No, since you're not his mother. Or Jack's. Admittedly, June Darby might have some words for Pull on that front.

Now, now, femme, don't be so sure you'd tell him 'don't'.

...Femme, he only got caught up in this because you sat around outside his workplace, looking sleek. While hiding from a couple of Vehicons, true, but still...

...And Rule 34 has had plenty to say on that angle. Interesting idea about using the implants with MECH's tech, though. I mean, they did build a fake Optimus and everything... Being able to reproduce that technology...

Face it, femme. Jack's in this for life, whether you want him to be or not.

Nah, Knockout was devoted to Breakdown. And there's another 'bot who lost their partner to the war for you.

...So, like any teenage boy attracted to someone he's not sure is attracted back. Except this one is a cool alien robot. Man, that's got to do weird things to your head.

...Oh, boy. There's no good answer to that question, is there?

The joy of not having some sort of xenocultural specialist or something along... Sadly, wartime.

Which was probably annoying as hell for her. Even if she'd rather have a certain someone else's legs squeezing her seat like that.

Oh, I'm sure she's been thinking about it since she found out it was possible...

After all, there's no guarantee that he's offline permanently. Primus' spark has been refired. Some mad prat might get the clever idea to revive the Chaos-Bringer.

See? All it takes is one particularly nihilistic 'bot learning that, and...

There's quite a few origins, honestly. Take your pick.

Though you'd want to be careful, it may be like a Reaper, capable of driving people to madness and servitude even with a mere fragment of its body.

Oh, yeah... That happened. Might want to keep an eye on that.

Yes, that is a common question in continuities where the great war ends. What do 'bots who have known only war for so long, who may have been born as soldiers, do when the war they were made for is done?

For context: Chromia (Prime). Very much like Arcee, enough that they could be sisters.

Especially if, like her comics appearance suggested, she's leading a hidden city of 'bots formerly living underground.

I expect it'll be awkward and embarrassing for all involved.

Heh, about as awkward as I expected. But thought-provoking, on some level. Arcee, like the other members of Team Prime, have found themselves at a strange place, the war being over, yet not quite peaceful. There's going to be a lot of 'bots in the years to come looking to find a new place in whatever society takes shape on the restored Cybertron... And not all of them are going to be good folks. Someone's going to have to keep the peace...

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"You're not giving Jack implants!"

 

I may be missing something, but I can't quite parse this sentence. At the ellipsis, it gets strange.

[Edited for clarity since apparently 'wonky' can also mean something like 'more technical, detailed, and specific than average'.