With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

have -> can

 

Although that would require you to get some of whatever special isotope of 'Radion' is used by the New God-killing weapons. And I imagine that both New Genesis and Apokalips guard the secret of its origin very closely...

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Quite a big target, but I expect you're doing that for a reason...

Ah, going to try something more esoteric as your main thrust, then.

After all, the guns can only traverse so fast, no matter how they operate. And Lanterns are very small and very agile compared to a ship.

And even a tiny threat can take out a vast vessel, given the right attack, or a little luck.

Still, well done spotting and hitting the projectiles. I assume they're larger than the standard railgun shot...

Ooh, something unexpected?

Seriously? He skipped across the shield? The other joy of being so small in space combat. ...And suddenly I'm reminded of the Star Trek/X-Men crossover, where Gladiator of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard punched the Enterprise's combat shields... And damaged them significantly.

Best not to get distracted, OL. One mistake here and you'll probably be waking up in that backup body above Minosyss.

Oooh, sneaky!

Good plan. Yoinking a New Ascendant shipmaster, and presumably control of his ship with him. Or her. Whoever.

Ah, not going to go all OL's way that easily.

Which raises questions about how independent the crew are during this whole situation. And how deeply they subsume themselves to their captain's command.

Which would be quite disorienting, certainly. Even more so for someone who's not expecting it, and unlikely to be trained in resisting it.

Om nom nom. I expect this will be a tasty morsel for Best Snek. You're going to spoil her, OL.

Which is probably making the other ship very concerned.

Boy, they can't help complaining about the rescue, can they? You really sure you can't let them take a little more damage, OL? Soften that attitude...

Yeah, seeing him busy with this might make an enterprising gunner think 'We can take him!'

Because the other option is not pleasant, I hope he realises...

Your choice, kid.

A mission kill, but not totally lost. I expect OL can recover them at his leisure once the other New Ascendant ship is dealt with...

...Excellent.[/burns]

Ah, well, then. While the other ship's master is not doubt trying to force it to repair itself (and his crew working on the physical side) that's not good during a live-fire combat...

Chuckles here ain't too quick on the uptake, is he?

Looks like the fight's just about done, then...

Though I doubt it'll go anything like Big Gray is planning it to. OL's good like that.

Well, this will be interesting. We haven't seen him nom a soul like this before. Wonder what'll happen...

Talk about looting. OL never does things by halves, does he? Hopefully it'll go smoothly, though. Not sure we've seen an assimilated New God before in-story, have we? I wonder if the nature of their metaphysique will have any peculiar effects on their Construct Lantern form. And what OL will be able to do and sense through them. Heh, maybe it'll act as a Godspeech hearing aid.

 

Huh. I wonder what that will do to Paul's metaphysique (or his ring's, or both). Will he be able to consciously hear and/or use New God Speech, for example?

 

"A heartbeat"

 

They may not even use it on each other.

Mutually assured destruction and all that.

No, but Desaad was branded by renegade.

 

ramp it up by focusing on it.

 

Ohoho. He has eat the soul of a god. That's technically conquest and tyranny.
Welcome to the family.

 

Tanagar has it, IIRC: they had shot Grayven with it once.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Wonder will this mean that Paul will start using New God bullshit? And finaly not be fucked over any time he faces New Gods/Magic?

 

Then they are basically cannon balls on chains so shoot them at velocity? With unconnected chain or enough slack in the chain?

Also did he assimilate the entire ship or the crew? Or just the Ship Master?

 

If that's true then Manheim may be in for a surprise.

 

Or make OL more vulnerable to New Godspeech.

Before he was blind by way of being invisible: godspeech passed right thru him like he didn't exist.

Now he might have to start rolling his dice pools against their dice pools, and I don't like the odds.

 

What? OL could 'hear' Godspeech ever since he got Enlighment. Anti Life didnt work on him exactly because he was Enlighment and now Manheim version on Earth dont work because his Soul isnt conected to Earth thaumsphere but to Ophidan.

 

Chain chomps do their damage by biting. Yes, he could make a biting construct, but it would only bite as hard as his ring power allowed. It would be more efficient to built a crushing tool construct than making one.

Unless he could find an actual chain chomp to assimilate.

The shipmaster.

Manheim is quite a lot more powerful than the shipmasters here.

 

Paul: "I'm going to try to be better about making moral choices."
Also Paul: assimilates sophont person

 

Was interesting, I think this is the first time he's used identity theft on what feels like a large scale. He's usually very discriminating with it, but if the shipmaster wouldn't surrender, there wasn't really any way to avoid hitting the whole crew with whatever he used to take out the ship.


Ohhhh.
He only got the shipmaster. The shields are orange now only because the shipmaster is closely linked to them.

 

Either "Its secondaries" or "It's secondaries... that would".

 

i thought only paul's demons could do this. where did he learn to do this himself?

also can paul understand god speech like gravyen!paul can?

 

He's been able to turn exotic energy sources into ring charge for a long time now.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Technically, this is the Ophidian doing it. He can do it himself, but he's mindful that if there were side effects he might not be able to fix them.

No. It's far less distinct to him. It's like hearing your name coming from somewhere in a crowd and not knowing where or who said it.

 

Radion is a theoretical substance aka the Graviscalar, that differentiates from a regular scalar in the 5th dimension.

I personally find that too perfect to not use, although Zoat might feel otherwise, of course.

 

That... Looks interesting? But my knowledge of physics is nothing like good enough to understand the description. Does it actually exist?

 

This feels kind of stupid for LePaul.

Like, Grayven might have been able to overlook the attack on his flagship because the Reach were at least partially responsible for it.

But taking his commander's and vessels from him should be something his metaphysics just can't let lie. To the point it would be completely believable that he might just out right switch his first target from The Reach to NEMO.

 

No. It’s an abstraction, a tool to be used to model phenomenon accurately enough to describe, explain, predict, and possibly control what is going on. Scientists don’t create models because they are true, they create them because they are useful under specific circumstances. Molecular bonds don’t actually exist, but modeling chemicals with them provides accurate enough results to perform vast amounts of chemistry. There are more detailed and accurate models that you would use when greater accuracy is required.

Also, that particular particle is still hypothetical, so there isn’t even enough evidence to suggest using it as a model would be useful.

source: I am one year away from a degree in physics.

 

I have never made a comment on QQ before so I have no idea where this will show up, so I'm sorry if it isn't where it is supposed to be. Just sayin'.
Will Teekl ever come back? My biggest obstacle to rereading this story is that I get very attached to a lot of characters, and while I will probably have to skip all the Vega arcs (because I despise Starfire's and Blackfire's backstory after the New 52, it's way too depressing and stressful), I can't really do that with all the parts with Teekl since she is in such a massive portion of the story in the early parts. So, I just want to know if Teekl might ever return so I can reread the earlier parts of the story without becoming depressed every time she is mentioned.

P.S. Also, I have no idea what the rules are for commenting on these things, so I'm sorry if I broke any rules.
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I'm just gonna press post before this gets even more awkward for me.

 

Teekle is seemingly gone-gone, and no one in-universe is really all that interested (at least on-screen, might still be off) in getting her back sadly.

Koriand'r and Komand'r aren't following after their n52 counterparts in basically any regard from what I remember (been a decent bit since either of them showed up) because Zoat doesn't like it for narrative reasons, so you should be safe there. Other things from Vega may also make you sad though, but I have no clue what your tolerances for anything are so if you're fine with Vega Things^TM aside from the n52 backstory stuff you should be fine.

And no, you didn't break any rules by asking a question like this. The only reason you might have is if you'd done an oppsie and posted in the story only thread, and I'm honestly not sure if that's actually against the rules or is just a faux pas.

Modern politics, however, is largely a no-no. And for reference I mean "modern politics" as-in basically anything that is currently relevant in modern geopolitics and is facing notable debate, so not "Nazis are bad" or whatever, but things like the current US election cycle would count under the ban. Talking about trans people is also mostly fine I think, but I'm not sure how that would be relevant to the story as-is and would probably count as a derail, which can get mods angry.

If you want to actually read them then the site rules are... somewhere. Click on things until you find them I guess.

 

New Gods' ships

You missed one:

It might. The math describing it works, if our guesses about the nature of spacetime are correct.

As for what it would do? Mostly, it would let you muck about with the strength of gravity without having to involve copious amounts of physical mass. This isn't particularly interesting, since OL already has gravitational weaponry.

However, the interesting part of this is that it applies from a direction that isn't one of the four spacetime dimensions that we're able to perceive. In comic-book terms, this could be interpreted as being able to bypass any obstructions that would exist in real space, or it could be interpreted as mucking about with the physics within the New God's body, or with a bit of a departure from "physics," it could be argued that one of the dimensions involved is metaphysical -- this jives with the interpretation of radion having divine properties.

EDIT: I said that wrong. It doesn't take effect along another dimension. It extends along another dimension. (By comparison, we four-dimensional beings would be flat along that dimension.) As a result, what we see in our four-dimensional spacetime is an unexplained variation in the physical forces. If New Gods also extend along that other dimension, then that means there's more of them to hit. A comparison might be to think of a human like a sheet of paper and a New God like a book.

 

Thanks for answering. I am actually almost completely caught up at episode 131 when I decided I wanted to reread from the beginning, and encountered my Teekl conundrum, and was hoping that Zoat had mentioned somewhere if there was a plan to bring her back (when I was reading that bit the first time I spent days going through the wiki and TVTropes pages and then using ctrl+f on every page of the story thread hoping to see if she got revived).
My problem with Koriand'r and Komand'r's backstory is the rape/sex-slavery. It doesn't add anything (meaningful), is needlessly depressing and stressful, and is exactly the type of thing I am trying to get away from if I am reading/watching superhero stories, and almost every version has that part of their background. Really that and Teekl's death are the only parts of the story I straight-up disliked (which is impressive as hell for something with like 5M+ words, I had more problems with the Harry Potter series in its 1.1M or so words).
Thank you very much for the clarifications on the rules though.