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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Azure Mirage

    Azure Mirage Making the rounds.

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    Yea, he and Cyclops got into a fight during the episode Iceman showed up. They were surprised their powers did not work on each other, not knowing that siblings cannot hurt one another with their mutant abilities. And thus they ended up not putting two and two together during the series. Hopefully X-Men 97 on Disney + fixes this, but I holdout no hope for that show. Even though the show runner seems to be anti ESG Rating approved material.
     
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  2. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Corsair of the Starjammers, if you want the papa summers. He's no Starlord but he gets around.
     
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  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    Yes. Also, Ms. Dane's a bitch, which is the take-away from that episode.
     
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  4. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Dude drops bombs like a B-52.
     
  5. SotF

    SotF And Away We Go!

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    It's not really a thing about siblings being unable to hurt each other, and more that Cyclops and Havok have, essentially, the same power just with blasts coming out different places...potentially due to Cyclops' brain damage that rendered his blasts uncontrollable.
     
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  6. dxdragon

    dxdragon Experienced.

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    I'm just loving this X-Men Animated Paul!
    An Orange Lantern just steamrolls through most situations with out of context solutions. Ring Scan is a pretty OP skill in this setting :)
    Instantly find out blood connections, find people, and more! All without having to worry about the Light making a blocker and giving it out to everyone and the friends.

    Did this Paul also look into improving the tech of this world and spreading knowledge around? Or is he more focused on the Mutant question before any of that?

    Personally, I'd be setting up colonies on other planets/moons in the Solar System for Mutants & their friends and then just set up something like the Krakoan Gates that let Mutants teleport through them to wherever they need. Have a fully secure and safe space to put Mutants that is conventionally out of reach of Missiles and Sentinels.
     
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  7. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No, it was a thing in the animated series. There's a scene where Black Tom and Banshee try and fail to blast each other as well.
     
  8. BrotherofaStudio

    BrotherofaStudio Know what you're doing yet?

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    Paul has a bad habit of dropping bombshells like that. Polaris is in for quite an interesting few days.
     
  9. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    One of the things that's amusing to me: These are all taking place on 8 February 1992, due to the speed Paul flies and his want to get this done before something interrupts him (and his ring's ability to track people down, of course).
     
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  10. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Magic is a thing in the various X-verses, so there are things that can be hidden from him, just not to the degree that effective scry-wards have proliferated in the main storyline.
     
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  11. Dur'id the Druid

    Dur'id the Druid Know what you're doing yet?

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    Somewhat random question, but how did Scott and Alex get separated? They both went down in the same plane accident I thought, but at that point they thought each other died and nobody ever put together that these two missing kids that reappeared in the same area were related?
     
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  12. KaiKolo

    KaiKolo Know what you're doing yet?

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    Paul be dropping bombshells on people lately.
     
  13. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    "gasps for"

    She might just not have realized they were related.

    Yep.

    "slides"
     
  14. Baladar

    Baladar Know what you're doing yet?

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    It’s like Oprah handing out blood relatives.
     
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  15. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    In comics, Emma Frost and her sisters are unable to read each other's minds
     
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  16. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    It is an aspect of their powers, so yes. And no they don't have the same power, they have the same power source- photons and other ambient cosmic energy. Cyclops' blasts are extradimensional exotic energy where photon like particles transmit kinetic energy. Havoc generates plasma.

    But other related mutants have a similar set up, so kinda no too.

    It's not even limited to mutants, funny enough.

    Captain Britain, Brian Braddock, is magic Superman, he absorbs magic and channel it into being a FISS.

    He was once attacked by a male variant of his sister, Psylocke, and he was immune to his telepathic blade.

    Which implies that Psylocke's psychic powers utilize magical energy thanks to her Otherworlder heritage.

    But there are related mutants who don't have that situation- Vulcan can hurt his brothers Cyclops and Havoc just fine with his powers, presumably because he can control all forms of energy, including energies that his brothers can't absorb.

    I suspect that it's an aspect of the mutations that make mutants generally immune or at least resistant to their own powers- Cyclops can't hurt himself with his own optic blasts, Banshee doesn't liquify himself with his own sonic shouts, and if there were dueling Rogues I doubt they could absorb each other.
     
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  17. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    Well, at least after this he'll be halfway to informing Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. Since it looks like Quicksilver is also a member of X-Factor.

    And I'll second that the stuff with X-Factor made Lorna look like a massive bitch. She truly is her father's daughter.
     
  18. GhostKing 666

    GhostKing 666 Know what you're doing yet?

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    He did.


    Though at that time Quicksilver had already become a member of the team while Wanda was apparently an Avenger(and before that a member of Iron Man's Force Works(and for a twist that's now deeply ironic, she was romantically interested in Tony)).


    Honestly, I'm kinda surprised they are both in Europe at this time instead of America.
     
  19. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    Zoat's doing his own thing in this like in his Earth's Mightiest Heroes Rouge is still a teenager and Magneto isn't running Genosha. It works but he's only ever loosely adapted cannon works.
     
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  20. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No, that's correct.
    Thank you, corrected.
    I can't find a clip, so I'm working off thirty year old memories here. I think they wound up in different places after the plane crashed, but I don't remember why.
    Oh, they're with Force Works, but Wundagore is their home.
    It's usually more that I didn't realise that another work was supposed to be in the same continuity.
     
  21. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    The traditional reason is that Alex was adopted, and Scott wasn't.

    Alex's adopted parents tried to remake him in the image of their dead son, while Scott had memory issues. How much was due to brain damage, childhood trauma, and/or Mr Sinister's mental manipulations is up for grabs.
     
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  22. Cuchulin

    Cuchulin Versed in the lewd.

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    Which is the next Bombshell this Paul should drop along with the possibility of a third and fourth Summers brother.
     
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  23. Old Knife

    Old Knife Not too sore, are you?

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    This is an arc I want to see instead of Renegade/Paragon.

    That's a first.
     
  24. Threadmarks: Fleet Traction (part 20)
    Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    1st January 2013
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    None of the Reach… Internees, exactly said 'this cell is bigger than my cabin', but I think they were thinking it. New Cronus wasn't built with a prison, and the New Titans only created one when they wanted to lock up notable Minosyssian chiefs to show off to.

    On the planet below we can feel the ritual progressing, and a curiosity that isn't mine is rising up within us. Even knowing that it's the Ophidian, I've been feeling a sporadic urge to flick my tongue out at the planet.

    The prisoners on my new ship can stay where they are. With my new Construct Lantern now existing within its soul circuitry I can direct it well enough, but that doesn't let me do anything with the rest of the crew. They don’t appear particularly eager to speak to me. Interesting that the ship doesn't have manual overrides but does have a crew. A New God would be able to direct it reasonably effectively without one. They wouldn't be able to make repairs… Ah, 'part of the ship, part of the crew'. The New God would extend their power through members of the crew as well as the ship. I'd have to assimilate them as well in order to pull that off, and I don't think that's a reasonable thing to do to them even if they're not legally prisoners yet.

    BOOM!

    For a moment I tense, then Allyn's patrol flies through with the Grayven-aligned battlecruiser being towed between them.

    "Allyn, how did it go?"

    "Well enough. No deaths on our side, though several marines will need some time to heal."

    "Did you get their ship master alive, or..?"

    "Dead. I offered, but he remained faithful." I nod to myself. "What did..? You do to yours?"

    "Your people project their souls outwards, through objects made with New God technology. Orange power rings can consume souls and turn them into constructs. Which means that if I can make contact with any in-use piece of New God technology-."

    "That's terrifying. To deny-. Deny a soul the peace of the grave…"

    I nod. "Yes, and I don't like using it. But it can be very efficacious."

    "Yes, I see."

    "Look, not… Asking you to give away classified information or anything, just trying to… Get a feel for your society so that I can make our interactions as friction free as possible."

    "You wish to gather information… But not 'spy'?"

    "Spying would imply that I'm interested in precise industrial or military information. And since there's a good chance that N.E.M.O. will have to fight Grayven at some point, I'd have cause. But no. I'm asking as a Hellenist. It's not supposed to be a theologically complex religion, but there are more Ascendants here than there are gods anyone actually remembers back home."

    "I don't honestly think of myself as a god."

    "Are you allowed to say that?"

    "Who would stop me?"

    "Alright, so how do you see yourself?"

    "A demi-god. Rhea was one of my ancestors. That is simply a part of history. I unarguably derive certain power from that lineage. But I always thought that being an actual god would be… That they would be transcendent beings. And I'm not."

    "How old are you?"

    "A young adult. And if you were going to say that what I'm feeling is a normal part of adolescence, then you were going to quote my mother."

    "It's more that it's a perfectly normal result of having your entire civilisation upended repeatedly within a short span of time. Though, that too. My respects to your mother."

    "If she were alive, I would pass them on."

    Ah. "My condolences."

    "It was that which convinced me that Sparta was wrong. I could feel her soul leave her body, but not where it went. That seemed like something that a god should be able to do."

    "My personal opinion is that there probably isn't any neat cut-off, just different degrees of power. And that power alone isn't a good enough reason to follow someone."

    "It is in our society. This technology Sparta-. Sparta traded for. It doesn't just work best when an Ascendant controls it, it also works better when there is an ultimate authority whose power flows through our civilisation. Sparta fulfilled that role, once. Now Athyns does. The most powerful amongst us. And it would feel… Wrong, for it to be someone else."

    Oh dear.

    "So when Grayven rolls in…"

    "We may be able to resist him. He is not one of us. Or his being here may result in Athyns seeming… Lesser."

    "Do you know what he's doing right now?"

    "Athyns? No. I assume that he is preparing for Grayven's arrival." … "I take it from your statement that he is doing something else? Donning the Seeds once more, perhaps?"

    "If you… Haven't been told, then I probably.. shouldn't…"

    "No, no, you are correct. Though it gladdens my heart to know that there is a plan. Is it..? Something to do with what I feel-? No, no. I should not ask."

    "Does that.. connection to a leader mean that Grayven already knows that we beat his ships?"

    "Almost certainly."

    Aah. It's unlikely that he'll treat it as being his people's fault, even though they attacked first. They were almost certainly acting upon his orders, and they were attacking Reach ships. And me. So the question is, how much weaker is he after having his ship shot up? What does it take to undermine his magical authority? Loss? Or if it's a more powerful New God…

    Not Scott Free. Not Barda. Highfather Izaya, almost certainly. But I haven't had any direct contact with the man. I suspect that Mannheim would, but would just being near to him be enough? I don't… Really want Grayven anywhere near my homeworld, because there's a very real chance that he might point his weapons downwards and fire-. Or would be not want to interfere in Darkseid's field test?

    With my new ship, I could open a boom tube back to Earth…

    Probably-

    BOOM!

    -not-

    BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!

    It's not-. Not in the immediate vicinity of the planet. Where where-?

    BOOM!

    There. Some distance from where the confrontation happened-. Because they want to be able to bring capital ship weapons to bear easily. That's… I don't recognise that ship. Small, Batwing-shaped fighters escorting… A very large… Generation ship?

    No, wait, that's… That's the Citizenry's mothership. Upgraded with New God technology. Mass-murdering misandrist cannibals.

    I guess Grayven was too busy to come himself.
     
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  25. Silveraith

    Silveraith Argent Phantasm

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    They.
     
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    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    And a fifth possible "brother."

    In X-Men the End, which is supposed to be a potential future instead of an alternate universe, Gambit was revealed to have been engineered by Mr Sinister with his DNA and Scott's. A nod to Gambit's original intended origin, where he was going to be a mole for Mr Sinister. But then people liked Gambit so they decided to not upset the fans.

    So Vulcan, the half brother the half Shiar Adam X, and Gambit.

    Although if Gambit is a Summers here, this Paul is going to feel silly for not scanning.
     
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    Do Boom Tubes make a sound that propagates in a vacuum? Or is his ring transmitting booms as part of “inform Paul” operating procedures?


    Hmm. Paul almost certainly won’t retrieve Diana like Renegade!Paul did given the state of Earth. She just hasn’t developed her divine powers enough to toss hands with a clever New God. And he probably won’t feed anyone here to the Rhea ritual below. Heh, I’m amused what a renegade reach soldier and an imprisoned Themysciran space pirate could accomplish after Paul leaves this planet.
     
  28. Cuchulin

    Cuchulin Versed in the lewd.

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    I suspect this Paul has already scanned Remy partly because he has had so many opportunities and it'd would be unusually foolish not to have done so.
     
  29. Chojin Patriarch

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    Do try to resist that urge, OL. No telling what Best Snek having a taste would do to their ritual, or the thaumosphere that's laid open right now. Fortunately, the Reach and New Ascendants' metaphysical weight is likely too small to have any effect in turn...

    And do you want the headache that having so many experiences downloaded would cause? At least the question of how they'd interact with his Ship Master Construct Lantern has something of an answer.

    Oh, yes. Given what else might come through a Boom Tube, it's only fair to be jumpy.

    Well, good for you. What of your foe?

    ...OH, right. Even if they might have seen his Construct Lanterns before, I doubt the knowledge of what they are and how they're made has been distributed...

    Don't worry, everyone has that reaction when they hear of it. Well, everyone who isn't a sociopathic bastard, anyway.

    ...And yet you've been resorting to it more and more often. Usually on bad people, but still...

    I mean, if it's information you'd make available without restriction... Things that would be in children's lesson books, basically.

    Though that attitude is probably not the norm, I bet.

    Other Ascendants, but they might have similar doubts. Who knows?

    In part, it comes down to the amount of mystical power at their command, really.

    Wise woman.

    :oops: ...How's that boot leather tasting, OL?

    Or a particular kind of Wizard. Ultimately, it probably depends on where your divine gifts are focused,,,

    Might makes right. Even if it's not solely physical might, eh?

    The question is, how well will his metaphysique fit in with theirs? It seems to work well enough with the New Ascendants he commands, but there might have been some rough edges to smooth out...

    I suspect anyone with a modicum of metaphysical perception can feel the changes being wrought upon Minosyss' thaumosphere...

    Interesting that it hasn't been widely spoken of. Ulterior motives? Concern for some misunderstanding of intentions? Fear of some cocky pup trying to wrest command?

    Big Gray might well have felt a tickling on the edge of his perception... Maybe it depends on how invested he is in his soldier's fighting success?

    This is why you need more information about the nature of New Godhood, of what a Godname means to a New God, and how it expresses itself in them...

    Heck, with the right confluence of conditions, Grayven might well be able to overpower Mannheim and replace him in the centre of the Anti-Life's focus.

    Oh, here's trouble. Speak of the Devil...

    ...And he shall appear?

    Even with the advantage of Boom Tubes, it's never a tactically smart move to drop right on top of an unknown location.

    Now, who's in charge, though? Astarte? Or her much more aggressive daughter?

    Sounds like they might need a war god or two soon. Hopefully the ritual finishes swiftly, and they can get proper leadership and empowerment back amongst the Ascendants. Because I doubt that those already present will be able to hold off the Citizenry's assault without serious aid. And just after OL had a win... Let's hope this doesn't set the tone for the rest of the year.
     
  30. Oglymogly

    Oglymogly I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    As one who enjoys both Paragon and Renegade storylines, I'm very excited to finally see OL's take on this plot line. Though I have the feeling he's both over leveled, and unwilling to 'play along' with it.
    He is much more likely to shoot them all and let the new-New Gods sort them out.
     
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