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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    "he hasn't"

    Maybe "development department"

    "has a"
     
  2. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    Since it wasn't mentioned in this conversation, what is the name of the Darkstar whose POV we're seeing now Mr Zoat?
     
  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    He didn't hand it over to the research and development caretakers.
    Ferrin Colos.
     
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  4. ptb_ptb

    ptb_ptb Getting out there.

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    Sorry for the mispost. I followed @Zarco 's quote to get to the last chapter post instead of using the Threadmarks and it went to the wrong thread.

    He's joking, right? Because the environmental shield takes care of that (literal) crap as established in that chapter where the MC builds a (pointless) toilet on the Moon.
     
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  5. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    Most non-Lanterns might not know about that function, because Lanterns probably don't want to talk about how it works.
     
  6. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    Ah, Darkstar Colos. Keeping a close eye on everything? Probably a good idea on a brand new ship. I would assume it's already had its shakedown cruise, but that doesn't rule out other problems turning up. If something does, at least you have Lanterns to lend a hand fixing it...

    Assuming those are only their ships floating derelict. If they put up a fight, maybe they got a kill or two...

    Not totally wiped out, I expect. What's the bet the Citizenry showed up, tried a raid and fled after being beaten back?

    And I doubt they get access to things like Hush Tubes. Grayven would probably keep the best for himself, after all.

    More than likely, yes. Your point, Corpsman?

    ...Probably not without getting a hell of a lot closer.

    And he does have motivation to break Citizenry coding. Only one problem...

    Huh. So that explains the 'new' stealth technology.

    Remember, those wrecks are under the eyes of a Reach fleet. And they're watching them very closely. Do you really think you can slip in under that cordon?

    Not yet, no. Let's hope this isn't the first thing he chooses to disagree with you on.

    Never know, Zartok might stumble into some additional prowess during adversity.

    And any boarding action would be best performed by Scarab Warriors, not regular marines.

    ...Until now. It could be a good thing, or it could be a trap of some kind...

    ...Zartok's gone, isn't he?

    ...He's not going to Leeroy Jenkins his way to the Citizenry ships, is he? Because I get the feeling that's what he's planning to do...

    Not many do, unless you come from Earth. And I would assume the Illustres has had plenty written down about that sort of thing already.

    Of course, 'close' at this scale could mean a few hundred thousand kilometres. But if their sensors are pointed the right way at the right moment...

    "They still have eyes, don't they? Avoid being seen." To be fair, stealth in space, even with magic involved, is always tough.

    Let's hope they aren't feeling trigger-happy...

    Definitely outgunned, then. It's be like swatting a fly with a nuclear bomb. Not even by setting it off, just hitting it with the bomb itself. :p

    In this case, running and hiding is definitely the wiser option.

    Yeah, unless your ship has armour a hundred feet thick, you need some kind of navigational shielding.

    ...Sounds like they're either planning to recover their wrecks onsite, or dismantle Citizenry ships for study right here.

    So, a fleet of small-to-medium ships, any one of which outguns the Darkstar ship. Not great odds.

    Well, that's a relief. :rolleyes:

    Yeah, you probably don't want a fight... Which makes me really worried what Zartok's up to.

    A very tense situation, I see. I bet more than a few of the Darkstar crew will be sweating through the next few hours... Unless Zartok makes things rather simpler, yet more difficult. Let's hope he's meeting with his Lantern squadmates and advising patience and calm, rather than... Oh, who am I kidding? :oops: I get the feeling the next couple of chapters will see Zartok or Allyn going out there and poking the hive...



    Something seems a little mangled here. Did a few words get cut off?
     
  7. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 Not too sore, are you?

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    This whole arc reminds me of the submarine in space version of space and I really dig it.
     
  8. ptb_ptb

    ptb_ptb Getting out there.

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    I can see there being rumours and jokes about Lanterns forming around that.

    "Those darn Lanterns, think their shit doesn't stink." "Oh, they don't do that." "What?" "When you turn up to a Lantern recruitment station there are two lines. At the end of the first one, they give you your ring. At the end of the second one, they sew your 'ring' up."
     
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  9. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    It's a bit of a joke in N.E.M.O. that Lanterns don't like using that feature, for reasons the SI discussed.
    No, just part of it. They're mostly flying through thaumically dead systems.
    No, but Zartok had a good degree of local notoriety before he became a Lantern.
     
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  10. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    I think the issue is that it says "notoriety (comma)(dash)(period) As a Lantern". Should only be the dash, I think.


    Also:
    "Detailed", I think.
     
  11. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No, he was going to think a sentence with a comma, then realised that he needed to clarify it.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  12. DeathReaperZ

    DeathReaperZ In the Void.

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    Good to know. I'll be careful not to reply without looking the post tags.
    Huh. So what about who brought Paul to this universe?
    I know that, I just mentioned that he said that Superman and Lois Lane have an intimate relationship.

    PS: Why did you choose Jade for the pairing? And will they eventually break up due to not being able to spend time together properly? Even instant transmission across the universe might not be enough.
     
  13. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    When we get there, you'll laugh.
    I didn't choose Jade. She just sort of happened. I chose Zatanna. And she didn't.
     
  14. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    Citizenry
     
  15. DeathReaperZ

    DeathReaperZ In the Void.

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    Let's see if we will.
    I'm sure Zatanna would have liked being in a relationship with Paul(After she gets older, of course), or was that attraction due to the Nabu arc's events? Although, I am confused by your apparent lack of control over your characters(lol). Did you mean that Jade would mesh better with Paul than Zatanna? And if so, why?
     
  16. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    More like lack of control over social mores. The community collectively squicked at the age gap, so he really didn't have a choice but to change it.
     
  17. PDV

    PDV Revelation That Uncertainty Is Itself An Answer

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    No author worth their salt can control their characters. They're people, and they do what makes sense to them in the situation they perceive, not what the author thought they should do in the situation he meant to put them in.

    Some authors understand their characters well enough to predict this well in advance and change the circumstances until they get an outcome that makes the character's motivation line up with the author's plans. And some hacks make their characters do stupid OOC things rather than accomodate changes to their plans. But no plan survives contact with the characters.
     
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  18. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    That was where it started. He did her a big solid, and showed himself to be completely reliable and dependable.
    I wrote the characters behaving in accordance to their personalities, and they ended up in a different place to where they were supposed to in their outlines.
    Oh, please. I don't give a shit about you people.
     
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  19. boo600

    boo600 Welp

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    But you weren’t going to try and do something as limiting as try and write yourself as a teenager, and you aren’t a pedophile.

    Honestly, I’m not sure why you’re surprised.

    It is a bit of a shame, though. YJ fics that focus on Zatanna tend to be poorly written smut, particularly when they’re SI focused. With the work you’ve put into Magic, here, as well as Zatanna’s reconciling her religion with YJ DC as you’ve written it… it would have been great to see more ZZ. It’s not like you couldn’t have kept up the references and IKEA songs (spreading culture, one link at a time!)…

    Ah, well. To the stories that never were. I suppose that in this alternate reality where you’d write ZZ and Magic heavy stuff, I’d want to see more of Space.

    …actually, is there more Zatanna content coming up? Preferably without Violet Crystals?
     
  20. Rafin

    Rafin Not too sore, are you?

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    Who is that? Have we seen him before this chapter arc?
    They are all using the Ring feature wrong. As did OL back then.

    If you don't like the feeling of whole sausages of poop being sucked out of your asshole then just deal with that with one of many available ways.
    • Tell your Ring remove the poop without waiting for its AI to do so automatically as you try and press it out on your own.
    • Have the Ring disintegrate the poop as it builds up, before it even reaches your asshole.
    • Extend your environmental shield into the toilet and subspace/eject it with a filament as it drops out without ever touching the local environment.
    • Automatically numb your asshole whenever the Ring pulls on your poop.
    • Change your biology so that you don't poop anymore.
    • Change your butt nerve endings so that it feels good instead if bad/weird when the Ring does its thing.
    • Ask for an off switch for that particular feature.
    Wasn't Zatanna already pretty much not a love interest anymore before you switched to a forum where such things are tolerated (or should I say encouraged)?
     
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  21. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    I think so, but in a brief mention sort of deal.

    He's pretty much the Darkstar character from the comics.
     
  22. Threadmarks: Counterpunched (part 9)
    Mr Zoat

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    "You. Analyst."

    I don't look up. I've had a program notifying me of his location ever since the mission started. The Darkstars are all on-task and the other Lanterns defer to him. If there's going to be a problem, he's where it's going to come from.

    "Lantern Zartok. How can I assist?"

    "Confirm for me that the Reach are besieging a New God vessel."

    "In-combat analysis isn't my speciality, but since-" Colos ordered us to be as helpful as we could without violating orders. "-you ask, I'll take a look."

    My normal job is to analyse the behaviour of civilian populations. Which is extremely important when your enemy specialises in mind controlling them, and when anyone you meet might be a sleeper agent. But I'm also trained to look at demographic trends and decipher what major shifts in attitude are happening just under the surface.

    I'm supposed to be here to analyse changes in the behaviour of the Reach civilian population, and we've only just arrived at a planet that actually has a civilian population. I have work to do.

    I dismiss the image of one of the Reach cities, leaving the ship's AI to crunch numbers of population movements and likely industrial output. And then I bring up an image of the 'siege'.

    "The ship matches the images on-file for the Citizenry's ships. I can't tell you from here whether or not there's a New God on board."

    "Does it use New God technology?"

    "There's no outwardly visible sign of it. All New God ships on record -from Apokolips, New Genesis and Karrakan- have a network of lines on the outer surface. But that just means that it isn't using New God technology in its shields, armour or sensors; the internals could have been refitted."

    "Can you detect that?"

    In a word, no, but I'd prefer to phrase it differently.

    "The sensors-."

    "No."

    I bring up an up-to-the-second hologram of our sensors' ongoing attempt to make sense of the ship through our stealth systems.

    "I can tell you there's no obvious sign of exterior work and that its mass is roughly what we'd expect it to be, allowing for the observable damage that the Reach inflicted to disable it so completely."

    "Do not assume that."

    "Excuse me?"

    "Astarte is not the sort of willingly bow her head. The New Gods Grayven recruited will naturally be his supporters. That means that they are an impediment to her taking power from him."

    "So she might have sabotaged one of her own ships."

    "Or the New God might have sabotaged it without realising that they were in enemy territory."

    "They have to open a boom tube somehow. Wouldn't a New God have to know where they were going?"

    "Boom tubes do not necessarily require a New God to open them. Clarissi Dox can generate them using his power ring."

    I.. didn't know that.

    "Alright, but we don't know how their navigation systems locate the place where they want to end point. That might need a New God."

    "Mm."

    "I don't have access to Clarissi Dox's personal file."

    "Neither do I. The Illustres mentioned it."

    "Did he say how the Clarissi located his end point?"

    "No. I doubt that he knew. The Clarissi is sufficiently intelligent that I doubt it would be a method that most of us could use."

    I've heard about Coluan intelligence, but I always assumed that it was overstated. I still don't see how an organic brain can out-think a power ring's AI, but Zartok doesn't strike me as someone who gives out compliments freely.

    "What is this?"

    He indicates a point on the hologram.

    "That's where the Reach ships are focusing their scanners." I press a button to bring up a cut away image compiled from other Citizenry ships of this class that have been dissected before. "It-."

    "A storage bay, yes, I can read. How long until we get an image of what's inside?"

    "We won't. It's shielded, and the sort of things we'd have to do to get through that would give the Reach a good chance of detecting us."

    "How about reading the Reach's sensor logs?"

    "Same problem."

    Zartok keeps staring at the image. I give him a moment, then reach for the control to bring back the images I'm supposed to be studying-.

    "Are we detecting any Scarab Warriors?"

    "Ah, no. Not that that necessarily means that there aren't any here, but there aren't any deployed with their Scarabs active."

    "Normal Reach soldiers could undertake a boarding action, but if all they wanted to do was destroy the ship then they could accomplish that with their own vessels."

    "So you think they're waiting for the Scarabs to arrive."

    "I doubt that it would be more than one."

    "I wonder what the delay is."

    "There's no reason for Scarab Warriors to simply sit on worlds that have no particular significance. They have far more ships than they do Scarabs and they weren't putting their ships in defensive positions either."

    "The Scarabs for this area are with the ships attacking the periphery. They don’t have any here."

    "It could just as well be that the Scarabs themselves consider this task to be beneath them."

    "And that means… They don't have a counter for Lanterns."

    "They have interdictions fields capable of stopping most forms of power ring faster than light travel. They don't need a counter when they have enough ships to wear us down and kill us with overwhelming firepower. At most, we would have a few minutes of relative freedom while they repositioned their ships." He smiles, awkwardly. "Besides, going by the current kill-death ratio, I wouldn’t call the Scarab Warriors 'Lantern counters'."

    It's true. A new Scarab Warrior will usually kill a new Lantern, but once they start gaining experience the advantage shifts to the Lantern, and as far as we can tell it stays there. The Reach either don't have the ability to create something better, or they're saving it for something.

    He keeps looking at the image, and I'm-.

    Oh, that's not awkward. That's just how he smiles.

    I'm thinking of asking if there's anything else he wants. But he turns away, eye glowing.

    "Let me know if any Scarab Warriors appear."
     
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  23. Darko

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    "of lines"

    "stopping"
     
  24. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    It's like watching a wolf circling prey....he's looking for just the right angle to make a strike on SOMETHING, but he's not quite sure what it is, and if he's biting off more then he can chew.
     
  25. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  26. Chojin Patriarch

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    I wouldn't be surprised if some members of NEMO thought of Orange Lanterns as barely-controlled weapons. Especially if they're privy to the results of Avarice overload. Or maybe this guy is just pessimistic and paranoid.

    Well, not wanting anything difficult, are we?

    Something that would be a big red flag for a Reach infiltration, I bet.

    I'm sure this won't take long, after all. Zartok's probably looking for a reasonable cause to attack.

    It's not like it carries a big flag showing who's in command...

    I'm sure there's some actual reason to have them exposed like that, but really? It just looks cooler.

    Bit worried how Zartok will take such a response, eh?

    Presumably not a quick process, of course. Only to be expected, since any active pings would instantly expose them.

    ...Huh, guess the analyst isn't the only one feeling paranoid.

    Guessing that's based on the Illustres' observations? OR an estimation based on your own 'conquering warlord' experiences?

    That's a lot of assumptions. Lots of ways you could be wrong...

    Yes, but he's a ludicrously smart fellow.

    Or a very good method of sensing a specific location anywhere in the universe. Like, say, a universal network of emotional lights.

    To be fair, we've only seen him Boom Tube anywhere on screen... What, once?

    Targetting data sourced from OL's Power Ring? Who knows?

    ...No, he's not. But he does recognise talents he doesn't have.

    Something the Reach wants, I bet...

    ...And if the Reach want it, then you don't want them to get it.

    That would take some serious hacking, given there's probably a noticeable light-speed delay.

    After all, if he wants to see this stuff that badly, he can just use his Ring...

    They are infiltration-friendly tech, after all. Wouldn't be otherwise if they could be picked up at a distance.

    Are you asking, Zartok, or just looking for agreement, so you;'re in the clear to attack?

    After all, Scarab Warriors are one of the toughest super-soldier systems in the galaxy. I'd be impressed if any non-Lantern threat needed more than one.

    ...In other words, Lanterns would effectively have a free hand in the system...

    ...You've already decided to attack, haven't you, Zartok?

    After all, most of a Scarab's weapons systems have to grow from the armour. A Lantern can create constructs anywhere.

    Hey, it's still better than some species. Ever seen a yautja smiling? It's been known to scare small children of other species...

    ...I suspect you'll know before they do, Zartok.

    Well, looking more and more likely Zartok is lining up to capture a prize from the Reach. He doesn't even know what, but if they want it, then he wants it first. Any guesses as to what it might be, folks? :p And how big a shitshow this is going to turn into? At least now that analyst can get back to his real job instead of answering near-impossible questions...
     
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    Duke Long Glomerulus

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    ‘through our’
    ‘keeps’
    Hahaha, I was wondering why he’d smile awkwardly.
     
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    Okay, what's this Darkstar's name Mr Zoat?
     
  29. Mr Zoat

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    They were listed in the credits as 'Darkstar Analyst'.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
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    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Looking to breach stealth?
     
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