With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Not surprising. Conventional technology like that only has so much memory space available for storage. Even for maltusian-designed technology. So the linguistic databases would likely be focused on cultures aligned to NEMO or under threat from the Reach...

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...As long as it doesn't end with something like 'The hour draws late. They come. They come...' or cuts off mid-sentence with a splatter of blood. The latter is kind of unrealistic anyway. Who'd keep writing even as they're in danger of dying?

To be fair, aren't most of the Orange Lantern Corps' rings made that way, only taking on more unique coding as their new wielder customises then? Barring bespoke customs for people like OL or Dox...

That doesn't necessarily mean they weren't here at some point in the past, though.

Now, now, let's not start an argument, kids.

Maybe they got word from travellers or refugees fleeing the cities?

...Not unless there was an ancestor spirit telling them so...

I am impressed at the logic in that statement, though. 'If we're it, then we should hold ourselves to the highest standards of behaviour...'

...Might be a bit too much trouble for them, though. Being in the Antimatter universe, after all.

You can only be afraid for so long. If death appears certain, then why fight it?

Better than being torn limb-from-limb by an unknown foe someday...

Also anger, willful defiance or pleading... No two people would have the same exact reaction, but group pressures can do a lot...

It is a grim picture this place paints, after all...

To be fair, would you want someone capable of this running around where you couldn't keep an eye on them?

All these tales, lost to time... A sad fate.

That is a good point, even after altering her brain to be more compassionate back when she had the Ring in hand, she's never been this...

Ah. There's a little anger there, then. That this could be done, and the person responsible has no more concern for it than what he chose for breakfast a week ago?

...Never hurts to be polite.

...No offence to the locals, huh?

Since once the soul has left the body, it's just matter, I suppose? And most funerary practices are more for the ones left behind than for the deceased....

Because you wouldn't put it past him to booby-trap a tomb, just in case someone came poking?

...That just makes the loss of the stories behind these exhibits all the sadder. Why these things? Who decided on them? How long has each been displayed? Oh, I'm sure each has a plaque containing some details, but they rarely cover everything.

...Okay, that was notable.

Ooh, you got a live one there? Be careful, they might be desperate.

Which probably isn't going to do much for the nerves of anyone inside...

...Well, that was unexpected. I wonder who might be down there, or how many. It is impressive that they've survived the... Years? Since Kalmin did his thing. I wonder if he even considered the possibility of survivors, or cared about it. At any rate, I suppose we'll get to find out more tomorrow. Wonder if it'll start off with a bang or not...

 

Someone that wants their last thoughts to be made known.

A good way to fix that would be to kill the person.

Even when she was working for Ras she could tell herself that Ras wasn't going for full genocide and that his intentions were somewhat noble.

Kalmin did go full genocide and he did it just because someone asked him to make a ring.

Though the soul still has a connection to the body.

My guess is some kind of ghost, since after everything that happened, a spirit being unable to pass on would make sense.

Or heck, maybe one of the locals absorbed the ambient fear and became an elemental.

 

Your daily reminder that an assassin now has a higher level of morality then LePaul.

 

Paul runs on a blue and orange scale morality that just so happens to mostly align with most black and white morality scales. As such, it can be difficult sometimes to determine how he will act or react in certain situations that an average human would consider morally gray.

 

Sounds like a potential recruit ☺️

 

What will Kalmin do if it turns out there is enough left to recreate the species?

 

I think it has more to do with the fact that this language was only used on part of a single primitive world in the antimatter universe which was wiped out before Jade’s equipment was probably built, or maybe even designed. Even if they had unlimited storage space I’d be surprised if they included this language. I think the ring can read it because of absurd translation abilities, not because it has a record of the language.

I doubt he will do anything. He wiped them out for practical reasons, not religious ones (insofar as he does anything for non-religious reasons, anyway). Obviously he’ll want to kill them eventually because he wants to kill everyone, but I doubt he’d really care if they got resurrected in the short term.

 

I don't know.

The guy clearly has pride in his work, so some of them surviving could force him to finish what he started.

 

'He'd', I think.

He has pride in his work - but he completed his work. He drove a world to death with fear, in order to craft a Yellow Power Ring for Sinestro, and craft a Yellow Power Ring he did.

Unless there's some really bizzare version of Bobblehead Malware on Sinestro's hardware, the ring isn't going to stop working, or even suffer degraded performance, just because somebody discovered that the planet was only 99.9999999999999% dead.

 

Thank you, corrected.

What, you think this is the only world someone who worships destruction destroyed?

 

You know the audience is bird brained about what is seen.

 

Wasn't one of the reasons Paul recruited Kalmin was in the hope he could convince him to build something that could help save Alan's life? Kalmin couldn't do Green, but was able to do Blue. Or was all of that secondary reasoning to the whole 'possible Controller counter' idea? I always assumed it was a bit higher up the list. If it wasn't, then I really need to reevaluate the character. For me, one of Renegade's strongest scenes was him standing over Alan's grave, talking to Diana. He was slower in getting what he wanted to help Alan, but I'd argue that he took the far more difficult/dangerous route of going to Darkseid to acquire an old Green Lantern.

 

And what happened immediately before this story is that Paul asked him to make another ring.

Come to think about it, nobody asked a lot of questions about how Kalmin made the blue ring and lantern for Alan, did they? The assumption is that hey, it was hope, he couldn't have done anything too harmful right... right...? Right?

Of course, the easiest way to generate hope is to first generate despair and then give people a way out of it. Maybe Kalmin killed only half a world, and then he gave the other half hope for salvation. Sort of like if this village had known they were all going to die, and then a superhero came in and beat up the aliens destroying the world. Do you think Kalmin played the part of the "hero" himself, or did he have a robot do it?

 

Interesting. It's easy to shrug at evil teammate Kalmin, because sure he talks but in story we don't really see him commit atrocities. This really brings everything home. And it does seem interesting if there's a survivor.

It's also really fun to see Jade's character growth. This really isn't the reaction early s1 Jade would have had, but her reformation, growing compassion, and work with NEMO seems to have done her well. Hmm, I wonder if this is a hint she's growing past the point where the only thing she can do is fight. (She probably will always fight, but having more talents is always helpful)

Kalmin assumed Paul saved the world where women had their eyes gouged out solely to give him enough hope to make a ring. I assume that Hope is what he used to make the Blue Ring and lantern.

 

Nope, I remember that he destoryed more than one world.

Heck, it was mentioned that the work on the Anti-Green ring killed several civilizations.

I was pointing out that Kalmin is a lot worse than a lot of the other people Jade has worked for.

That's it.

 

Unaligned Malthusians seem to get off hand mentioned a lot, but I’d like to see actual effort put into talking to them, and trying to get at least some of them working in other Colors of the Emotional Spectrum. Like, that’s been mentioned have a dozen times I feel but nothings really been done on that front.

Or go talk to the Zamorans again at least, after calling ahead and turning off Soul-O-Vision.

 

I stopped following this story sometime ago, and recently started up again. Is "Fear Ourself" part of the main story line, or is it about the adventures of an alt-Paul?

And is there a wiki or some other source that lets one follow a complete thread? I like the Xenopsychology storyline - I would like to know if there are earlier story arcs in the same universe.

 

Unaligned maltusians either live under rocks or have a willingness to delete unwanted visitors.

There are the rare criminal exiles, too, but that would alienate the Controllers and put Paul in range of a Krona-lite Maltusian.

 

Fear Ourself is part of the main Paul storyline.

There are other Warhammer 40k chapters out there but I do believe you have to manually find them. If you search by the Warhammer dating system with Mr Zoat as the author you will likely find them in the story only thread.

 

Nah, I’m pretty sure there are a whole bunch just walking around on Maltus. Maybe as many as a couple dozen. I think I remember that Paragon actually ran into one randomly. The problem is more that they have their own projects and they’re pretty self-absorbed, I think.

 

There are thousands, possibly millions of unaligned maltusians on Maltus.

The problem is that they may not necessarily focus on Light Spectrum tech, or their payment may be a bit too great and out of there.

 

Paul originally freaked out about Maltus having a multi million (billion?) population, wondering aloud if there were indeed that many Controllers. The Darkstar agent corrected him that the majority of the population was Clickers, with the Controllers being like, 30ish members. Paul did run into an un-aligned Maltusian but I think it was just seeing them in the crowd?

 

It's a bit out of date at times, but someone around here still runs a wiki for all this.

http://wtr.greenmaw.com/wiki/Omake_Index

but I think the best list we have that is recent would be a post back here

https://forum.questionablequesting....i-thread-fourteen.8938/page-1336#post-4478265

 

Either : or , instead of ;

That would be me. Hi! But I knew when I started that project that I wasn't going to be able to keep up with it by myself. I'm still accepting volunteers!

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Ohhh, well. Leave him there.

 

So he seems to switch between being both fear enlightened and not fear enlightened? Not sure if this is a mistake or not.

 

When both text and quotes are colored, that’s just extreme emotion. He’s fluctuating between “very scared” and “all consuming terror”

 

Not a recruit... But a potential powersource?