With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Maybe he's being influenced by the mind of the Erdammeru?

 

Unless he is constantly making significant, game-changer improvements to the designs of NEMO's ships, I feel like Kalmin must surely have hit a point of diminishing returns such that his continued survival really can't continue to be justified.

 

How many green rings have the Guardians made since the OLC was established, and were there any spikes in the spectrum at those moments in time?

 

Because he is.

True, but compared to the Qwardians their sins are nothing.

It's like saying that someone that once committed accidental manslaughter is as bad as the Nazis.

There's an easy solution to that.

Kill Kalmin.

"Focus on the mission first. The muder comes later."

"Focus on the mission. The castration and beating coming to the Qwardian comes later."

 

I don't think OL would really mind it much if Orion did kill Kalmin, he isn't of that much use anymore and is a massive potential danger.

 

I find this arc very interesting. But at the moment I'm mainly confused.

Ah well. I sure all will be explained.

 

Paul's not necessarily all that good at figuring out when he should get rid of certain problematic individuals.

Look at how long it took him to figure out that Luthor is a lost cause.

He may still think that Kalmin has some use.

 

‘its’?

It’s possible that he actually is semi-regularly making major improvements, by holding back his technology and releasing it slowly, because of this very reason. Also, I think his continued survival can be justified quite easily even with a low return. With the scale they operate on, a very small improvement to technology could save thousands of lives, and obviously a larger one could save millions or billions. Given that Kalmin isn’t really doing much harm right now (except to the Reach), I don’t think there’s much reason to kill him now. The war will last years, after all.

 

Wait. I thought Paul Did kill Ras. With a rail gun ug through the noggin. As soon as he rezzed from a pool.
Is he lying to jade or not?

 

I'm sure Paul doesn't count that as killing if the man just gets back five minutes later.

 

He shot him as soon a he finished resurrecting and then collapsed the already spent Lazarus pool.

Or maybe I'm misremembering things.

 

I think he shot him, watched him get resurrected and then nabbed the Lazarus sarcophagus. Then he brought that and the info to the cave, which prompted the raid on Infinite Island, I think the name was? But by then Ra's was alive and gone from the place.

 

I think your miss remembering Paul just shot him that time to find the location of the pit. Once he had that he called in the Justice League.

 

I'm sorry to say you're mistaken, my friend. He shot Ra's, then shot a bunch of stuff in the island, then stole the sarcophagus and finally went to the cave.

He originally thought he had killed Clayface and was a bit morose, but after a chat with Batman he got better about it and then explained what he did, presenting the sarcophagus from subspace and everything. It wasn't until then that the League found out about the Island and had to improvise a raid on it.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Jade is assuming that someone did something to make him permanently dead. The SI is standing by his assersion that it wasn't him.

 

Why does he think Nylor did it? When did this robot thing happen?

 

By this point you've let a lot of people down.

 

[Gestures towards the Story Only thread]

Somewhere in there.

 

Not an abbreviation, so just "Wouldst".

Usually one word.

 

Mr Zoat was there something we missed where Paul actually got samples of the Butcher's Blood? My understanding was that all he managed to do was allow Orion to absorbed residual Red Light. But that's not the same thing as having the actual Blood (which by all appearances the Free Lancers got from both planets).

 

Thank you, corrected.

No, it's pretty much the same, but the Free Lancers did get most of it from both places.

 

"Kalmin's a far"

"then I will"

"powers his"

I remember a comic where the Guardians and Zamarons were planning on turning into energy.

 

So... this guy sent the freelancers to grab the blood, then sent Paul and company to the same spots to absorb the residue?

 

They're in the Void Hound aren't they? I remember Zoat mentioning it as being in the Maltus system years ago. I suppose that's as good a place as any for making a Red ring.

 

I didn't think Paul has forged rings yet. He forged a lantern and also pulled Kronos' ring out of the Holden of Avarice, but making a new ring with all the functions that Malthusian imbue in their rings I don't think Paul has done that yet.

 

I rather suspect any defence Kalmin has is likely to be somewhat inimical to organic matter. So best to poke him with a long stick. Like, say, a ten-foot-pole. Or better yet, a twelve-foot-pole, just in case the traps have an eleven-foot radius.

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That would be awfully convenient, but I doubt they're that lucky.

The joy of being a paranoid omnicidal genius. Being able to passively kill anyone stupid enough to try and offer aid is probably a bonus for Kalmin.

...I mean, it's not improbable. Much in the same way that Maltusians have a natural knack for using Spectrum energies.

Or at least a bespoke work site for the Ring-making.

...The whole moon is basically his armament storage facility, isn't it? Besides the ancient alien super-weapon it's made from?

Assuming he doesn't insist on disintegrating you for the offence.

Erdammeru's shielding probably not making that any easier, is it?

That's what happens when a person has the power to be a post-scarcity civilisation in their own right, and millions of years of practical experience. Hence Draan's apparent love of Science! for it's own sake.

Sadly, until he turns off the 'whatever-it-is'-field, that's about all they can do. Heck, it might be the only thing keeping Erdammeru's defences from killing him outright.

To be honest, you probably thought you could trust him, OL. Let that be a lesson to you.

...You're still hoping he plans to make the Ring and let you guys have it?

I can imagine even OL sweating a little under that gaze.

At least you'll get a chance to take your annoyance out on someone today, Orion.

Who haven't locked into Orange Light specialisation yet?

If weapons-boy turns into dead weight if you need to haul ass out of there... Leave him behind.

...More neurotic? Good grief.

Suspicious, but not unreasonable, being inside a moon and all.

I mean, some people like that sort of aesthetic. Though that 'It doesn't like being changed' is rather telling.

I mean, even having sex with every sapient species in the galaxy would probably get boring eventually.

Though everyone did get some laughs out of how dense you were being about the romance thing.

...Motherfucker. That's the Butcher's Blood, isn't it?

At least now we know who sent the Free Lancers after it for certain.

...All that side-questing... For a +1 to a skill check? <facepalm>

...You mean they're breathing him right know? ...Ew.

I mean, on one level, you can customise the programming, if nothing else. But i suspect your skill bonus isn't high enough to trigger the masterwork bonuses Hinon meant.

And just like Kalmin, it comes down to someone beating molten emotion into a Ring shape. How... Fitting.

Ironically, doing this manually, pounding and beating on the Ring matter with a hammer, seems somehow appropriate for a Ring of Rage. And Orion can make sure that there's no hidden traps or protocols tucked away, if he's surrounding it with his Godhead. On the other hand, a Ring this bespoke won't be much use for mass production. Not that OL planned to do so, I suppose.

 

Actually I think it would be “Kalmin’s far too capable a technologist”

 

He made comment earlier about being able to make rings (and it not being that secret that he can). Readers commented on it at the time and the conclusion we came to was that it just happened off screen.

 

Plus it's Qwardian tech, so he'd know.

Draan: How does it feel to have my essence inside of you?

Everyone: Please...stop...

I mean, in the comics a Guardian made a ring like that.