With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

"joke's"

 

No, that's intentional.

Thank you, corrected.

 

So the question I have right now is that Hinon was the one who recommended they go to this guy for the Red Ring. Did she forget what he was like when he had his rage (unless that happened when she was in a coma and she didn't double check?)
Because I can't imagine Turi (forget the weapons name) being very subtle as it starts to wake up.

 

Maybe this guy was the best option, as terrible as he is.

 

First of all, nice work finding that. Always love to see more obscure bits of lore get attention.

I doubt this will be canon to the Zoat-verse though.
It seems rather human-centric to assume the the Butcher originated from Earth when we know there are civilisation that predate humanity in this universe.
Logically speaking they must have felt rage, right?

 

I'm not a Sandman expert, but according to something I read on the internet, it's apparently been hinted that Cain and Abel is a true story in Sandman- but it didn't happen on Earth.

So if Zoat wanted Cain and Abel to have been blue Maltusians who lived billions of years ago, it wouldn't actually break anything.

 

"Hey, what gives! What did you expect when you set us up with this guy, Hinon?"
"I expected him to trick you into collecting a powerful source of the red light, him teaching Orion how to forge a red ring, him going insane and stealing the red light, and you killing him and leaving Orion as the bearer of a red ring. But knowing you, you've found a way to ruin it. What actually happened instead?"
"Oh, nevermind, I guess we're good then."
"Wanted him dead for the last billion years or so. Good job."

 

Oh! It sounds to me like you want something!

 

Random thought, this guy is controller right? Aren't they all about self-control? And if not, what faction of malthusians is he?

 

If memory serves- No. He doesn't belong to any faction. In the Zoatverse here, most Malthusians are so independent minded that they aren't willing to be part of any organization that would have them, to paraphrase Groucho Marx.

 

Well, she did recommend him as the least likely to pull a sudden yet inevitable betrayal.

What? The Tech proto-Titan or something else?

Eh, with the Source as God, biblical stuff can happen before humanity, it’s just a lot of stuff (the Garden, for example) gravitated to Earth. Plus, the White Entity is on earth so it would make sense for other E-Spec stuff to have happened there. And that’s before getting into the possibility of achronal origins.

 

Huh, did not know that.

I suppose that does open up some interesting possibilities.

 

Draan is not a Controller. At this point, all Controllers are bonded to the Orange Central Power Battery. There's a reason Hinon recommended this guy to make a Red Ring.
Whether or not she missed this (Draan deciding to re-link with the Red Light and then go crazy mad) is anyone's guess.

 

Yup.

The Qwardians used their planets one of those to create the mind of the Void Hound. And because the Void Hound is completely and utterly unstoppable, the only way to beat it was to use Earth's to destroy it's mind.

 

That should say 'Maltus'.

That should say 'built'.

That should say 'Maltus'.

Did Draan steal all of Orion's rage? If so, then I can't wait to see him get angry again and go for Round 2. On the downside, Orion's never going to trust Paul ever again.

 

Spiritual tug of war between a New God and a Maltusian? I wouldn't bet on the god...

 

I feel that's a positive.

Paul way of thinking is quite inhuman.

 

So is it safe to say Paul is now fluent in Mother Box?

 

Oh-ho. About bloody time you woke up, sleepy-head. And before you ask: Situation Now All Fouled Up. At least our protagonists now have another pair of hands to try and slap the near-god-like ancient immortal chock full of Rage into surrender.

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Blame it on your surroundings.

Nice, not even a moment's hesitation pinging it as a battle station. Though that would be like calling a supermodel 'plain'.

Dangit, OL! Blundering into romantic lines without even trying, still? At least he can't start any other relationships while he's with Jade.

Oooh. I think I get what happened to him when he walked in: The facility leeched all his energy away, and it's taken this long for him to recharge.

...And now he knows where he is, and what he's inside.

HEh. Probably a religious experience on par with finding the actual Ark of the Covenant. Qward's greatest weapon.

Guess it makes a handy conduit for touching Orion's soulstuff, and draining it of Rage.

I suspect that would get the Butcher's attention. While they aren't as absolutely hostile to each other as some of the Entities, they still get on about as well as two giant emotional monsters normally get along. (Picture your favourite Kaiju battle here.)

If nothing else, she can try to run, and get word out, assuming people haven't noticed Turi shuddering and rolling over as what's within wakes up.

Probability of success... Low.

Earth Bullshit™, baby. Their track record speaks for them.

Let me guess: He's thinking 'Nice balance. I'll keep that design in mind.'

Though you did take it back later, once it was safe to. Not hardly the same thing here.

I can just picture a Maltusian sitting there for days, watching the sky as it rolls from day to night, and then get up like they took a five minute break.

We aren't quite at the Godzilla threshold yet, but honestly, Kalmin might be able to do something with Mother box to help.

Sheesh. The inevitable Unwinnable Boss Fight to give you a taste of their tactics and methods. Hopefully OL learnt enough that the inevitable rematch will go his way.

...And why do you look like you're having a religious experience?

"Watch where you're poking those fingers, sirrah!" Well... That's a worrying evaluation.

Let's assume that it can at least glass the surface. Even if it can't crack the mantle, that much damage will not make the locals happy.

Not easily, I suspect. It's more than likely capable of killing Maltusians, and anything else is just fodder compared to that.

...Assuming it hasn't developed countermeasures against it. Which is probable. It's creators probably wanted to make it unstoppable, after all

I think we can guess the reason: Killing stuff.

And even then, it's a coin-flip?

...Dude.

"Thank you, dear. Now, Orion, Sweetie, let's have a look at you..."

The Rage may have warped his metaphysique. Whether it;'ll wear off remains to be seen, I bet.

"I'm not sure. But I do know he stole all of his rage."

"Theoretically? It was all mixed in with his Godname..."

"...Where are you going with this?"

"...What."

Okay, OL. Now I really want to know where you're going with this. Because the only place I see this going is you making Orion give the Butcher a come-hither glance an inviting shout. Because at this point, that might be the only thing that could stop Draan: "You No Use My LIGHT!" And there's still the matter of Erdammeru being under Draan's control...

 

Ah yes. Using the stolen rage as the backdoor. What could possibly go wrong?

 

You absolutely shouldn't given they've kicked Darkseid's ass before.

That said, expect a Dues Ex Machina that lets Orion win.

 

Orion is not a war god. He's an angry god.

And now he gets to let it all out.

The Butcher has found its host.

 

The Void Hound very specifically blocks Entities.

 

Just follow the Hulk school of thought.

If anger doesn't work, use more anger.

 

Doesn't look like it's blocking the Butcher right now.

 

‘casually’

’Haven’t changed back.’?
’If he hasn’t changed back…’?

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

It feels like it would have been more prudent and less problematic for Paul to call up a Paul in a Marvel Universe and ask to borrow a Hulk for a few weeks.

 

Most Hulks don't actually work well for Red. Wrong kind of rage.