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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    Why did it show the Twin Towers or something?
     
  2. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Since I'm not part of the relevant editorial team, this is a guess, but I suspect it was something to do with all the planes flying into buildings. They showed the crews parachuting out and the buildings were naturally empty, but it happened a lot.
     
  3. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Well yes and no.

    According to Mosaic, John Stewart is the Triarch.

    The Guardians, even though they haven't been religious in a long long time, are surprisingly unaffected by finding out that one of their employees is in fact not just one of their ancient gods, but all of them.

    Oh and to anyone interested, in the states anyway, Roswell Conspiracies is available for watching online at such places as Tubi, Amazon's Freevee, and Pluto.

    I've been meaning to watch the show, it always sounded interesting.
     
  4. Doccer

    Doccer I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Oh that could be fun. I haven't seen any fanfics with my favorite BKN series yet.

    It is and one of the few series with a proper ending!
     
  5. Ardy

    Ardy I trust you know where the happy button is?

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  6. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    There's one problem with Hal being a magical girl.

    He's not a girl, not even when using his powers.

    That's not to say that magical boys aren't a thing, of course.
     
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  7. Threadmarks: Lantern Conspiracies (part 2)
    Mr Zoat

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    27th August 1999
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    "O-kay. So… In summary, most human myths are a product of encounters with Earth's alien diaspora, and while most aliens on Earth are just keeping their heads down, some actually are trying to conquer the world."

    "I'm not so sure that the vampires are trying to conquer the world, so much as take what they want from it."

    "Vampires, who in reality are-" I point to the home-made book in front of me. "-big snake-like creatures disguised by holograms."

    "So they are."

    "And… European myths come from their disguised state, and… Indian myths are based on their undisguised state?"

    "I was'no in India at the time. But they're the right shape for nagas, so they are."

    "They die when exposed to sunlight, zombify people by injecting them with poison from their fangs and the only reason why they haven't conquered the Earth already is that they all hate each other and can't cooperate."

    "That's… You're oversimplifying things a little, there. None o' the different species on Earth are really their people's best. So there's no need to worry about a giant armada flying in and re-enacting The Day The Earth Stood Still."

    "So who are they?"

    "Outcasts and the descendants of refugees. For the most part. I came here to get back to nature, but that's just me."

    "So what..? Myth..?"

    He smiles brightly. "I'm a leprechaun."

    I frown. That seems a little… Light-hearted?

    "You'll be wondering why I'm not wearing a green suit and handing out Lucky Charms."

    "No, I hate those things. I used to eat Ricicles, and then they ruined them by putting marshmallows in with them. And I was expecting robes from a maltusian, not a tweed suit."

    "Ah, different culture, I suppose. I used to run interference between alien settlements and human explorers, which is a lot easier to do when you have holograms to send people the wrong way and gold to buy them off."

    "Just… Just you?"

    "I did the same thing a few times. The stories got around."

    "Alright. So, why.. do that? Why don't people know about this?"

    "How many aliens do you think there are?"

    I glance at the book, but there isn't any census data. Not on that page, anyway.

    How many non-human sophonts could realistically hide on Earth? Okay, they've got holographic disguises, but… How could they maintain them? Earth literally wouldn't have been gathering the raw materials they'd need to make them or do maintenance on them until this century. And then there's the issue of genetic variation…

    "No need to strain yourself. There are maybe ten thousand lycanthropes around the world. A few hundred vampires and oni. A bit less than a hundred banshees. Every other species is even less than that."

    "That's… Not sustainable. Is it? I mean… The genetic issues they'd have…"

    "It depends, it depends. Some species have technology that gets around those sort o' issues. Or reproduce differently anyway." He smiles. "Others live so long they don't really mind it. But they're outcasts and refugees, not colonists. If they can hang on in the dark corners o' the world for a while it's luck, and not planning."

    "Refugees? We don't have interstellar trade. Why would they come here?"

    "Any port in a storm, lad. One or two ships get out when a planet gets overrun, they're not going to turn their noses up at a world they can live on just because it's a little out o' the way."

    "Running from… What?"

    He shrugs. "Who knows? Invasions fleets don't usually stop to do a formal introduction, and it was a long time ago. Vampires, oni and lycanthropes all have decent sized fleets near their home worlds… Or they did last time I was over that way. And none of them are shy about starting a fight. Or it could have been someone else."

    "Okay, so… Why keep them secret? Why not just walk up to a government and introduce themselves?"

    "Why'd you think?"

    "Okay, they might have got a violent response during some parts of history, but we know that aliens aren't demons now. Offer technology for sanctuary."

    "Some communities have been here for centuries. Very few actually remember their original homes. And as far as technology goes, they might have a few bits and pieces from home, but that doesn't mean they know how it all works. Civilisation is complicated. Knowledge is specialised. Most didn't come with school books or big data archives."

    "X-Com." He raises his eyebrows. "If the people don't have valuable knowledge, then they're not valuable. But their technology still is, now that we can nearly understand it. A lot of the human… Brain mechanisms for telling us that people are people won't work with sophonts who don’t look like us. So there are probably government agencies who are somewhat aware of what's going on, and decided to be murdering, sticky-fingered arseholes about it."

    He seems mildly amused.

    "That's one way to describe the Alliance, I suppose. Though when the biggest non-human groups on Earth are murderous, sticky-fingered arseholes just the same, I'd recommend not clambering up on your high horse too quickly."

    "Alliance..? Alliance of who?"

    "That's no' really clear to me. They started sticking their nose in about fifty years ago. Their equipment has bits and pieces from just about every species on Earth, aside from the ones which are completely incompatible. Most o' the time they have American accents, but that doesn't mean all that much. Most people who speak English have an American accent."

    I remember how weird it was listening to the man in charge of the Millennium Dome speaking English with a noticeable French and American accent.

    "So is there some great international conspiracy, or..? Do they just use their technology to spy on other spies and keep them ignorant?"

    "I don't rightly know. But if it's a job you're wanting, you can try to find out and let me know when you do."

    "Sounds manageable. A few plasma cannons won't be enough to stop even a neophyte Lantern like me, unless I do something stupid. I'm not… Sold on this secrecy thing, though."

    "Learn a little more about how things work before you rush to pass judgement."

    I nod. "Will I be getting paid for this?"

    "I can put a little gold your way, if it helps."

    "I don't have any documentation, so trading gold would actually be a little difficult."

    "Ah, don't worry. I can sort you out there."

    "Alright. Spy on X-Com, and keep the secret. Anything else?"

    "Those minor species I mentioned? I try to keep an eye on them. Keep them safe. The Alliance has been on a bit of a tear recently. I might be wanting you to provide protection a time or two. We don't really want a big fight, but… Send them on their way."

    I nod, and offer him my right hand. "I believe we have a deal."
     
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  8. Katillno

    Katillno Verified Nobu fan

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    Would green Paul be restricted by his ring from asteroid mining or using his ring to build technology to meet his needs?
     
  9. Bud-E

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    I don't think there is an official green lantern corps in this verse so there's no one to stop him if he did.
     
  10. Darko

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    Their tech may just be built to last, and they may not need all that much genetic variety to avoid health problems.

    "don't have"

    Because it was an available planet.

    Beggars can't be choosers.

    I believe the words "dissection" or "vivisection" play a part in why they don't do that.

    People can still be bigoted shits.

    Look at how people treat others for having different colored skin. Imagine how worse it'd be for someone that doesn't look remotely like them.

    And don't be so sure about governments not thinking that they're demons.

    There are government officials that have crazy religious beliefs.

    You can always try the black market.
     
  11. Katillno

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    I mean theres’s Maltusians and the emotional spectrum
     
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  12. Darko

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    There may nit be, but it may still be possible that the ring has built-in restrictions.

    Granted, Percival could probably remove those.
     
  13. Duke Long

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    ‘undisguised’?
    I watched the remake just a few days ago. Pretty decent, although the government, and the aliens to a lesser degree, were painfully stupid.
     
  14. Chojin Patriarch

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    Gonna be working from wiki pages here. I never even heard of Roswell Conspiracies before this, so... But the premise is honestly pretty logical. For a world without overt magic, anyway. And no doubt that could be explained as 'alien technology' via Clarke's Third Law.

    I'll admit, that's a big departure from European mythology...

    ...But entirely on the mark there. D&D players may recognise them as a Naga proper or as Yuan-Ti.

    Though you'd think 'dies to sunlight' would be an issue... Living underground could work, and there are places today that wouldn't get natural sunlight without architectural considerations for it. At least it isn't as weaksauce a weakness as 'deathly vulnerable to water.' :confused: Looking at you, 'Signs'...

    I suppose that would explain the lack of an invasion. And the shy and retiring nature of many such beings.

    :confused: ...That DC version looks a lot taller than most are depicted. I suppose it would have seemed too comedic for them to be a few apples tall.

    Eh, I prefer the Gold Digger Leprechauns and their rivals. Sure, they have the vaults of gold, but they guard it with a team of shoe-themed 'giant' combining mecha and their 'Lucky Charms'-themed pilots. The Vaultron Force. :rolleyes: Yeah, it's that kind of series.

    Presumably using your phenomenal cosmic Maltusian powers would be like using a pile-driver to crack a walnut. And times change. Maybe he wore robes back in the day, but finds pants a lot more comfortable. And less drafty. :p

    Better than him getting around, if you know what I mean. x3

    Probably not as many as you'd think?

    Or their technology lives up to the old trope of 'Ragnarok-proof'. Some races build their stuff tough. Like Power Rings.

    You assume they feel a need to reproduce. Not every alien species is as short-lived as a human. Or the mating urge only comes on rarely, and they prefer their own company the rest of the time, like the 'Vampires' mentioned up top.

    What better place to hide than somewhere no-one comes because it's primitive?

    Aye, that's a good question, isn't it?

    Because for most of humanity's history, the average person's reaction would be, in order: Scream; Run away; Grab a weapon and go looking for the 'monster'. Forming a mob with torches and pitchforks can be counted as the last one. :p

    And if they have some kind of Prime Directive rule? Also, that's hoping for a lot, that refugees would understand their own technology. Unless you got very lucky, and they had a knowledgable technician or engineer handy, and their tech can be reproduced without some exotic manufacturing process we can't make...

    Basic of human nature, isn't it? Some folks are just like 'Those guys have Cool Shit! We want that Cool Shit! Let's take their Cool Shit!' :(

    For one thing, it's a longer way to fall.

    Fifty years, eh? Just about the time of the Roswell incident the series took its name from.

    Why can't it be both? A group of international spies keeping everyone ignorant so they can be the big dog without anyone knowing.

    Picture people's reactions when you pop out of nowhere, all glowing and flitting about. It'll either be 'holy shit, a real superhero!' or 'Oh god, what the fuck, it's an alien!'

    I doubt Percy wants you living in his house. Seemed to enjoy the privacy so far.

    I'm sure Percy knows a few people that could help with that.

    Sounds simple enough, especially if you can tone down the glow.

    And perhaps he'll run into a certain bounty hunter in the process...

    Well, that more or less sets up the ongoing situation of this Paul's chapters, then. He notices something unusual, looks into it, and runs into one of the various alien groups. Or the protagonist and his group, which is even more likely. It's only a matter of time until he crashes face-first into the ongoing plot. More importantly: What shall we call him? :p I think 'Gaul' is already taken by Anti-Green/Gold Paul, right?
     
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    If it's a blank ring like the orange one, he has no restrictions save what he cannot will for himself.
     
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    Azure Mirage Getting sticky.

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    Loved Roswell Conspiracies! Watched the whole thing on Youtube after someone uploaded the whole shebang back before Google bought it using a DSL connection.

    Those were some wild times for watching stuff that was not on DVD yet. Throwing a Green Lantern Ring Paul in that setting is nuts. Wow, Zoat, your just zany with your crossover ideas. But I can jive with this. Especially since the ring can perform genetic scans, which would enable Paul to uncover aliens hiding in plain sight easily enough among other things.
     
  17. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    Didn't expect to run into Gold Digger here; a surprise, but a welcome one. In one Exalted campaign I'm in my best friend's character takes heavy inspiration from Gina Diggers...

    Roswaul?
     
  18. Darko

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    He's a Maltusian, so he may be able to change his size.

    This sounds like something a crazy crack addict would come up with.

    It sounds incredible!

    Though it may fit this one more.

    He's working with a leprechaun, something we associate heavily with Celtic legends and the Gauls were Celtic, so it can fit.

    As for Gold Lantern, maybe Goldie.

    I think he'd like that given that in his last chapter he was very happy.
     
  19. mastermenthe

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    I thought Gold Digger was already an Exalted RPG setting?

    What do they call British police? Coppers? So maybe Cop-paul?

    Paulwell?
     
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    Roswell Conspiracies, wasn't expecting that. But I'm certainly not complaining. I have a feeling the Shadoen are in for a really bad time, especially Rinaker. I think that with this Paul being a Green Lantern there will be a Paul for each color of the Spectrum.
     
  21. Mr Zoat

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    True, but it's really hard to use a green ring like that. Just dragging an asteroid would be simple enough, but holding in your mind the objects that could do that is far more difficult.
    Thank you, corrected.
    Yeah, I've seen the internet's xenophile porn. I think most of them would be fine.
    Do you know where to find black market gold traders?
    Thank you, corrected.
    They had an episode where an alien did that. Everyone was pretty fine with it, until his disguise broke down.
     
  22. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Well worn.

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    I actually watched the show.

    So Green Paul is human here? Is he the one who was a slave?
     
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    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    High five!
    Yes.
    No.
     
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    That may mean that a small minority of people will be fine with them.

    Not for the right reasons, but still.

    The rest however...

    Good point.
     
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    BartlettMagic peekaboo, you fucks you!

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    yesterday i was a bit turned off, but i'm turned back on again today. this is a sidestory i could get behind.
     
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    Good show, the problem was saturation, there was a lot of similar stuff at the time.

    Heck in tone and art style it looked a lot like Disney Gargoyles.

    When a casual viewer can confuse your show with a Disney one, you are fucked.

    While for movies it just means more people will watch it.
     
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    Thinking of all of this: Paul got to the Green before the effects of Anti-life could finish eating through it all, and Isley was fighting from the beginning.
    But I don't think anyone was in position to resist the effects on whatever the magical reflection of cities is.

    I'm not sure whether the Vulture of Freedom is going to be going around making the situation in the cities worse by incidentally encouraging looting and taking advantage in people who think their old way of life is dead, or whether that Vulture is going to be important to getting people back on their feet by eating whatever the Anti-life has infected.

    But they should probably look into addressing that issue. It might become more clear if Riddler or Batman notice that behavior in cities is worse in some way that scales with how magical, old, or big it is and make the connection with the state of the Green and the people used in the broadcasting device.
     
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    Doccer I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I am remembering something about the Lycanthrope's leader and the MC having a son sort of together.
     
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    Remember that Dr Mist sealed the primary gateway to the 'Anti-Heart Lands'. There is still seepage, other gateways and the seal on the primary gate will break eventually but without more details (the effects of the Anti-Life to be specific), my assumption is that things will be holding fine for a time.
     
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    edmantgoog Not too sore, are you?

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    I rember that show!
     
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