With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I will eat them.

 

There was also that show about Cold Cases were crimes took decades to get solved. Basically there are a lot of cases that for one reason or another take ages to get solved. Heck one took so long that everyone involved was dead and solving it was just to find who did it.

Isn't hunting licenses and tours a profitable business?

 

Yeah, but they the detectives in that one managed to solve it in a short time after getting it, so I'm not sure if it fully counts.

 

I think there just aren’t enough people who are interested in/capable of hunting deer in the UK or willing to come to the UK. If it was as easy as just reducing taxes on hunting or something, I don’t think the government would be having trouble.

 

Eat faster then Imperial, having deer at all in the near future is depending on it since you refuse to try and fix the planet the easy way.

 

Yeah, that's bullshit. You can't keep only the beneficial aspects, you can either keep the equilibrium or you can change it. And once you've let the equilibrium reshape itself around one change, just reverting that change is unlikely to restore the previous equilibrium. Removing an apex predator is probably more likely than anything else to revert cleanly, since you won't have a die-off of whatever was eating the predator, but the balance of trees will have changed (and also because after Britain wiped out its wolves it cut down all the forests to fuel the factories), and the balance of other prey that wolves would eat, and so on, and so on.

The only real advantage trying to restore the old equilibrium has is a political one, and not always that.

There is no easy way. Just a way one particular ideology would like to believe is easy.

 

Hence Wolves.

There are never enough people that want to hunt deer or at least are able to bag enough deer to make that work

Not really, also hunting deer (especially Legally) tends to be cold, uncomfortable and mildly dangerous as you kind of have to get up really early then wait around for hours perched in a tree for a chance to shoot a deer. You can cheat by leaving out food they like or get them to freeze up using headlights, but that is illegal and you still tend to have to get up very, very early then walk a long way into the woods.

 

That's objectively untrue, there are many easy ways to fix the problems. They just fall under the banner of Rule 8 and aren't the most traditionally moral choice.

 

ran -> run ?

Remove the extra "

assume -> assumed

 

Ran is correct, it's past tense. He is describing an event in the past that already happened.

 

That should say 'And then'.

 

Aren't forefinger and index finger the same finger?

 

Ah, Nick, Nick, Nick... Such an American plan. Surprised the Emerald Knight let it crash, but just because he has a Ring doesn't mean he's faster than sound, huh? And if he'd stopped it, they'd just try something else. Something more likely to get people hurt...

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Pfft. I guess the 'X-Com' games never came out in this world. Or he'd have to rethink that statement. Then again, he doesn't seem the gaming type anyway.

Lady's got guts. Though her ability to fly is useful in this case, I suppose.

Well, something did blow up, like I predicted yesterday...

Which is telling. Start joining the dots, fellah.

Good, he's not taking things on his boss' word.

Some races kind of won the super-power lottery, huh?

Admittedly - from my meager GTA Online experience - the larger aircraft handle like right pigs in the air when they're in good shape. Never mind after a little creative sabotage.

Finish that statement wisely, young man.

Ah, Roswaul has arrived. A little late to save the evidence, but still...

Like he didn't know she was there before he landed. Thank you, Power Ring sensors.

Not a mnemonic gesture, I assume. You know, like in Mass Effect, when a Biotic ally uses Lift, they make a 'lifting up' gesture?

But he was still closer to Nick than you'd have liked, eh?

I assume she has a psychic ability to detect intent.

Heh. Easy assumption to make.

This would be so much easier if Roswaul could just talk to them, but that would give the game away far too early.

Roswaul using his Ring to access an internet site to learn the right movements, I guess.

It's amazing at the differences in styles and 'accents' when it comes to sign languages.

The sword was a warning not to try anything funny, I suspect.

Yeah, I'll bet he's making his thoughts on them clear.

...Very clear.

...Or maybe pulling a rope downwards to lift something. Subtle.

Good question. Well noticed of you, Nick.

Go on...

Heh. Sometimes that happens. Not everyone can be uber-fluent in every language needed.

Americans and their guns... Not hard to work out.

Well, you technically are the bad guys in this particular situation.

Damning, but wait...

Amazing how much you can say with a few gestures, isn't it?

...Gee, maybe you might consider that not all aliens are against you?

Take a guess, lawman.

Ever wonder if you're the bad guy, Nick?

I half imagine Roswaul giving him a subtle rebuke in that posture.

Bit late, yeah. But no, I think you'll be meeting again before long...

And no doubt Roswaul will be looking you up before long.

Not letting this go, eh? Good man. Look deeper than the carefully spun briefings you're given.

Well, not a terrible first meeting. I did find the Emerald Knight using sign language to avoid having to talk amusing. Lucky one of them could understand him, or he'd have had to start writing in the air. Still, Good to see Nick not letting this information go unconfirmed. Perhaps he'll find something useful out in the process. Learning not every unaligned alien is bad might be important.

 

While the brief lesson in sign language is interesting I still have no clue why GK-Paul is pretending to be mute.

 

So he can maintain his disguise as the green knight and keep people guessing about exactly what (or who) he is. The people he's dealing with have deep intelligence networks and this Paul is vulnerable, especially while he's sleeping.

 

The malthusian he got this job from used to run around in green armor and never talked.

Paul is copying him so the other races think he's the same person and are therefore willing to trust his help.

 

’my binoculars’

You can’t keep all of and only the beneficial aspects, no. I thought that was obvious from the way I was talking about wolves specifically, given that they do present some small danger to people, which is clearly not beneficial.

Reverting changes is unlikely to restore precisely the original equilibrium, but it is certainly possible to move further towards the original equilibrium in a beneficial way. I will admit that I am not entirely educated on specifically the reintroduction of wolves, but I have been taught about other nature-based solutions which, even in isolation, do actually move the local environment in the direction of the natural dynamic equilibrium in a valuable way, for example, allowing trees to grow at the edge of a river obviously doesn’t restore the whole equilibrium, but it does still reduce flood risk and severity, and probably biodiversity though that wasn’t focused on.

The balance of forests has changed, but there are efforts to regrow the forests (which are inhibited by the deer), and we didn’t cut down ALL the forests, just most of them. There are still forests for wolves to live in, though I don’t know enough about wolves to say whether they’d stay in the forests 95% of the time, or if they would venture out of them.
I’m not really sure if there’s any need to worry about the balance of other prey, since we actually want them to eat the deer instead of other prey. I’m not sure whether a wolf can get all of its five a day from eating deer, though.

I don’t know enough about the wolf reintroduction to say for sure whether it will work properly or whether it has only political benefits, but it is simply not true to say that similar attempts have only had political benefits. Beavers were recently reintroduced to the UK, and research indicates that they do in fact provide real benefits. Also similarly to the beavers, I expect that wolves would be introduced on a test-scale first, and if the test fails presumably all of the wolves will be killed. The government is not smart, but they at least have scientists advising them who aren’t idiots.

 

Thank you, corrected.

HAH!

You should see our pointless badger culls.

 

Oh boy.

OH BOY!

Well, i'm not suprised that the crashing plane alone wasn't enough to get the job done.
You know what they say about jet-fuel and steel beams.

 

Well, there is the whole "get physically and mentally poisoned by constant exposure to technology" aspect (which, admittedly, raises several questions about how the banshees got here, but was an interesting take on faerie races' traditional vulnerability to "cold iron," nonetheless).

A very nice take on Nick's traditional mantra, intended or not.

Her species has a psychic ability to detect impending death, actually; Sh'lainn is especially sensitive to Nick's, particularly as the series goes on (though she once predicted the deaths of all Alliance agents within twenty-four hours; Rinnaker's response was a sardonic "I don't see a reason to be concerned - after all, as I understand it, she's predicted the death of Agent Logan several times."), but it's their stand-out trait. The flight and sonic blasts are somewhat secondary.

The man was a professional bounty hunter, prior to joining the Alliance - observational and deductive skills are a must-have.

Arguably, that's Nick's defining character trait . . .



And to Mr. Zoat, may I say again how much I appreciate Sh'lainn and Nick's characterizations - I can actually hear their banter in my head, it's so authentic.

. . . I admit, I sometimes find I prefer your side-stories to the main plot (depending on the episode and crossover elements in question), but I will be extremely sorry to let this one go.

 

Well, they've met and they will of course meet again. This is was very interesting, a touch ominous I find since we are seeing their first meeting from Nick's point of view, but I like it. Paul hates vampires, if this was mentioned for other Pauls before it's news to me. Except for the Black Lantern Paul that wound up in Buffy the Vampire Slayer but even then, he was hunting them out of necessity. Speaking of which, we haven't seen that Paul in a while, any chance we might see him again?

 

He could just make words with his ring, but this is more mysterious, I guess. RosPaul keeping up the grand Paul tradition of being complicated

 

"thing"

"the guy's wearing is pretty green"

 

I assumed that they reached Earth through long ranged teleportation.

Well, darn. I try writing things that people will hate. I'll just have to try harder in future. I've got it!

Thank you, corrected.

 

Yet people still do it. It seems this is another Brexit problem. Why hunt deer in the UK were is cheaper and or easier somewhere else?

Go to hunt boar pigs in La Patagonia and also enjoy the view. Do some tourism, is really cheap thanks to the super inflation there.

Yes,despite the inflation being higher that Venezuela they insist in not calling it Hyper Inflation.

 

True, but not relevant. BSL is completely unrelated to ASL; ASL descends from French Sign and there isn't enough contact for them to borrow vocabulary back and forth. They don't even share the alphabet for fingerspelling - BSL uses a two-handed system for letters and ASL a one-handed system which is basically identical to the French fingerspelling.

Gestural languages are currently in the same regional dialect state that spoken languages were in before the advent of widespread literacy; there's no real reason for most people to bother with anything other than their local dialect.

 

I completely forgot about the Roswell conspiracy show, thanks for the return of nostalgia!

 

I stand corrected. I'll fix that up.

 

Would you believe that for the first chapter or so of the alien conspiracies plotline I was thinking it might be from that supergirl television series where the only supers are aliens.