With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I don't know, all of this stuff declaring the actions of the police and DA to be illegal seems to be built around a heap of assumptions on what the law looks like 40 years in the future.

Wynne can huff around and complain all he wants, but if the state and city courts of Gotham don't share the views of his lawyers, he may be shit out of luck. He himself called Gotham a cyberpunk dystopia, and they aren't known to take an expansive view of people's rights.

 

You may assume that a man heavily involved in the peaceful application of supervillain technology for the entire intervening time and who has very expensive lawyers on call is mostly going to know what the law is.

 

Even expensive lawyers don't mostly know what the law is.

That's why they have armies of Paralegal's. This joke is for all you paralegals out there.

 

Finally some recognition!

 

Not a requirement for a movie. Sherlock does not grow either.

 

Local Laws are fairly slow to change, State and Federal ones even more so, and the international agreements on human rights are pretty hard to get changed at all. (enforcement is a whole other problem, but that heads into some of the site rules for discussions)

We still use case law that is, in some situations, several Centuries old. I ended up doing a small bit of research regarding the legal protections that were granted to those seeking asylum in a place of worship a while back. The case law still on the books in the UK was referencing the killing of an escaped prisoner from the Tower of London, whom made it to Westminster Abby, in 1378.

 

Old Bruce was an even more massive bastard the Younger version.

Qui-Gon didn't need an arc, a character arc would only have diminished him.

 

His two arcs were BJJB and AJJB.

 

Dude... Priorities... Getting Themiscara back to its regular position is more important then Harpy consoling...

 

That would take communicating with the gods. Until then, he can help with a small matter like this.

 

OL do wat OL want. Is literally whole point of being OL.
Also, he's still working through some really serious shit. What he had to do to Bats might be the first real test of his enlightenment we've seen. Circumstance conspiring to there being one option that he deeply emotionally does NOT want to do, but weighing against a much larger quantity of the more abstract desire of not having his civilization collapse.

 

Woot! Harpy Island, this is a far callback, this is one of the first real victories Paul had in challenging the Face-Puncher Paradigm.

Eh, hes a Orange Lantern. Following minor whims and distractions that catch his attention is part of the package.

Edit: shoot, I didnt mean to gang up on you in a triple reply, sorry about that.

 

It's pretty nostalgic to see Paul interact with the harpies again, and nice job on the Greek government making sure the situation was alright between harpy island and the mainland

 

So you're saying he should be in Japan right now bargaining with the Shinto pantheons.

Or in the middle of a conversation with Zauriel.

Or dragging Wonder Woman over and having her knock on reality with her Truth powers.

 

Still not back yet. That's worrying. Could the Olympians have retreated so far that they lost contact with the world and thus couldn't feel when the Anti-Life was repelled? Or has something untowards happened over there to stop them returning, I wonder...

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Yes, despite what some lunatic fringe folks believe, islands do not just float on the ocean, they are the tips of land poking through the waves.
Though I remember an 'Inspector Gadget' episode where MAD had undermined an entire tropical island and planned to collapse the remaining supports so the island would sink and their alpine resort at the top of its mountain would become beach-front property... Despite the fact it probably cost more to mine the island out than they'd make from the relocation. Supervillains!

Scylla, for the record, is one of the bigger of the ancient Hellenic mythos' large monsters. Along with her gal-pal Charybdis. Wonder what they've been getting up to?

Huh. Must be something important for one of them to come out here.

'Wallowing' meaning she was struggling to stay aloft. Make you own 'I just flew in' jokes.

Ah, one of the ones he met way back when, on his first official cape business.

You always remember your first case. And sometimes, that first case remembers you.

Okay, doable. But maybe it's something OL can handle?

Come on, girl, she's not that fragile.

...Huh. I hadn't considered that they had male harpies. I mean, their young'uns have to come from somewhere, but... Mythologically, they're not known for their roosters.

I bet it drove them to indulge darker impulses, like the ancient days.

Huh. Wonder what it was he did? Can't have been anything too bad by the harpies' standards, or they'd have driven him out.

Yes, he may have saved the world. But sometimes, saving one life can be more important.

Ah, one of the prettier corners of the Aegean. Those blue domes...

No point wasting time, or ruffling the lady's feathers.

Heh. It kind of does work that way, doesn't it?

I mean, it's been a long time since anyone had a bad reaction to OL carrying them on an FTL hop.

More than a few such little communities throughout the world will have survived the Anti-Life that way.

Hopefully not tourists. I doubt the harpies would appreciate the attention.

Ah, government monitoring. Not unsurprising after their little hijack hijinks.

And yet they built a jetty? A simple patrol boat could have sent over a zodiac easily enough.

Ah... Exclusive tourism. Maybe they thought the harpies worked like the female-only types you see in more exotic fiction... Needing men to 'supply' them with chicks... I doubt it, though.

And one the Anti-Life couldn't really interfere with.

Good to know he's not aggressive. Probably the exact opposite, I shouldn't wonder.

Though depending on what he did, that might be the worst options to have sent in.

Such a nice, lively girl.

Surprised they have names (been so long I don't even remember if they had any named back in the day.) But then, they are human-level intellects, and with language comes the desire to name things.

Sounds like he's not in a happy mood. Thankfully not defensive about his privacy, though.

This may seem pointless to some, but really, is it such a big amount of time out of OL's day? Worst case, he can call it in as a toilet break or something. And who knows what shape this harpy-boy is in? For all we know he could be bubbling with lingering Anti-Life so it's best to check it out. Plus, it's a nice call-back to his early days. Who can pass up friendly harpy folk, after all?

 

The last time Paul went on a short pointless errand that delayed him from important things, Manheim ate the entire Mayan pantheon because he was just a few minutes too slow in arriving to the plot location.

The time before that allowed Manheim to weaponize Paul's clones and solidify his hold on Earth.

 

Or finally teleporting to the universe where he's an evil mind controlling bastard and utterly annihilating that version of him.

Or at least fixing his brain. Still looking forward to that XD

 

They may be extremely worried and don't want to communicate yet because they're worried it's still there.

They could probably sent a scout to see if it's fine, but they may want to wait months at the very least.

I remember them helping Circe and Johnny Sorrow when they invaded Themyscira.

Plus it can be good for his mental health.

And he can't exactly do much to bring Themyscira back.

He can't contact the gods there and Atlantis is still in quarantine, so he can't get help from there.

But helping a guy with his mental issues is something he can do.

 

I would point out that he could punch through Atlantis's barrier if he really wanted to via his orange lanterns ability to absorbed magic.

 

Am I the only one surprised that there are male Harpys?

 

Huh, I always thought Scylla wasn’t that big and Charybdis was the huge one, but looking at Wikipedia it seems like maybe Charybdis was actually smaller but was just really damn good at drinking water.

 

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Kimihito Kurusu.

Thank you, corrected.

 

Maybe it's just me but if we're going to have Paul interact with a lot of minor/civilian based characters I wouldn't mind seeing what happened to the porn actors that worked with Woman Hunter, maybe check up on Holly and Karon since the latter managed to embody a portion of the Anti-Life herself and who knows how the White Light affected her, maybe the clone of Hitler in South America managed to deal with the negative effects to become a local leader of the community. In between meeting with various official or unofficial government leaders Paul gets contacted by people he's briefly met, see how they've managed to cope with the whole situation, compounded by the previous events.

 

Didn't he leave, because Brazil collapsed? I vaguelly recall something to that effect or maybe Mr Zoat mentioned it, I'm not certain.

Still, I agree, would be cool to see the Illustres catching up or checking in on his friends/acquaintances and how they're coping with the post-Anti-Life infection and the touch of the Life Entity. Like the Beresfords and Harley, for example.

 

Brazil was effectively destroyed by the Sheeda, and the Accala took over most of the territory. The largest cities kept going as city-states, but they're pretty much gone now as well.

 

It's been a while so I can't remember, but did Paul mention looking for or trying to contact Eris at all?

I'd assume she's probably missing too since she hasn't contacted him but still.

 

I don't think he even remembers he has a a patron Goddess, honestly. When was the last time he even thought about Eris or spoke to her?

To the Illustres, she might as well have already served her purpose and is now an acquaintance that he sometimes meet or encounter in appropriate locations.

 

All of the Greek gods have left Earth entirely and are currently out of Paul's reach. Plus, I don't think Paul can see any way wherein Eris could give any meaningful help, both while the Anti-Life was around and in the recovery efforts now that its gone.