With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Well, isn't this fun. A reunion with grouchy old Bat himself. For some reason I'm curious about how the conversation between Bats and Terry went, when the latter asked how Peter and Bats knew each other.

Still, Peter's perspective is a good one to have when you're trying to be a Superheroe, especially in contrast with old Bats'.

 

A man being called Terry is usually a dominative. As in he has a longer first name, like calling someone Will instead of William. Basically contractions for proper nouns.

 

As I said, I checked an earlier chapter and his full, unabridged name was spelled ‘Terrence’.

 

Sorry caught the last line before I jumped pages

 

You know, it's actually an interesting question if Barbara being Batgirl did technically break anti-vigilanteism laws.

Leaving aside any alterations to said laws in the face of de facto, there's a principle in some areas of law where an established practice becomes the law, in a sense. Now, it is - to my knowledge - usually something that happens with property rights/right-of-way, and I have personal experience with that; our across-the-street neighbor once asked us to use a different part of the turnaround at the end of our driveway, as due to a surveying quirk and a bend in the road a sliver of his property is on 'our side' of the road, and technically where our in-use driveway was nipped across the corner of that. Had we continued using it, enough time would have passed that, under the law, we would have a legal right-of-way from continued use, and he would be stuck with that.

I do wonder if something similar might have occured with decades of masked vigilantes fighting crime, in this universe - the laws might have technically been on the books, but 'established practice' would have indicated that while masked vigilantes were still de jure breaking the law by their actions, de facto they were an accepted part of the justice system...

 

Slight continuity error. In Most Recently on Earth 12, he learned about it from Flash 12

 

Since Peter Wynne seems to be doing fine in the Batman Beyond time period, does that mean he was never associated with Cadmus? I know he would never agree with their methods, but he could've provided them with some tech without realizing what they would use it for.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Flash didn't tell him it was six out of seven.

 

He was like that even when he was young.

 

Why would he help a US anti-Superheroes organization with Waller involved in it? He might not remember the DCAU but he should know who Waller is and what her involvement means.

Even without knowing that Waller was involved, what's the incentive to help a US federal quasi-secret organization, apparently gearing up to face superheroes or supervillains, especially when he associates with both of those groups in some way?

 

As mentioned in the post you're mentioning, he might not have realized they were Cadmus. Secret organizations are not required to explain who they are and the nature of their goals when they make purchases of information and technology. Having a bunch of benign looking shell companies to conduct business through is practically a requirement for a group like Cadmus.

They could have told him they were looking to help metahumans suffering medical complications as a result of their powers or somesuch.

 

Is Booster Gold still active, cause I really wanna hear about what Wynne did to poach him from the league and make him a better hero.

 

That's assuming there were anti-vigilantism laws to break in the first place.

Despite fiction acting otherwise, it's not like an anti-vigilantism law wouldn't be a horseshit waste of ink to begin with. Of course, horseshit waste of ink laws are a thing.....

Citizens arrest has been a thing of common law since medieval England. Defense of others is a thing, legally.

For everything else, either it's already illegal or it isn't.

If one uses unjustified force during that citizen's arrest or defense of others- false imprisonment, assault, manslaughter, and murder are already illegal.

An anti-vigilante law requires that someone is enough of an idiot to feel comfortable publicly stating "Hey if someone is brutally murdering your children, I'd rather they get murdered than GASP! a guy in a cape save them" and there being enough idiots to support the first idiot.

 

Didn't Flash tell Peter that they got their butts kicked by a parallel version of Peter? Us Bruce's memory going?

 

He didn't poach him. He coached him. Telling him that he could stop putting on a front and that he knew that he was a failed American Football player and that Skeets was basically a science fiction roomba took the wind out of his sails enough that he actually listened to Peter's advice.

 

Maybe remove 'with'.

"likes to"

At least Flash's enemies aren't mostly made up of bloodthirsty psychopaths.

 

Nice to see Thomas doing well, and imagining him in a suit is pretty hot ngl lol.

 

No, I think that's okay.

Thank you, corrected.

No, but you get people like Heatwave and Murmur who are.

 

As far as I remember, the ones that Paul was working with were the Terror Twins and Abra Kadabra. Who else is on that list?

 

He briefly worked with that hulking former military officer and a guy with ice powers. I don’t remember their names and I don’t know if they count, but he did work with them.

 

I meant people Paul sponsored in the hopes that they would turn their lives around once they get out of jail. General Eiling doesn't count, and Captain Cold was already released from prison before the Anti-Life.

 

Right, that makes sense. They were just the only people I could think of at all.

 

shelters -> smelters

 

Sadly, in most cases, they end up looking more like mafia thugs than any kind of good guy. Like twelve pounds of filling stuffed into a ten-pound sausage skin. I suppose Tommy Beresford has the money for a really good suit now...

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Well, good to see he's in a good mood.

Not comfortable with the situation, I see. Understandable, he's a small-town boy at heart.

His idea of a good party would probably be more 'dive bar with pool tables and ladies in tight jeans'...

Interesting to see the difference between the twins. Tuppence is the warrior... But Thomas is the healer.

Now, what will you do with that freedom?

Perhaps you can find something else. Something people need right now.

Well, I suppose it's easy enough work for them. Remember the cover of 'Action Comics' #1? That's abotu how strong they are, after all.

Heh. Join the Justice League, see the world, and save it, too!

He's... More of a consultant, really. I suppose once things settle down, he'll go back to building political capital. And finally get his damn newspaper.

Just a figurehead, huh? About the same as what OL was thinking about him yesterday. But unless they pull something, he's all they've got for the next couple of years.

Honestly, the bureaucracy can trundle on without leadership for the most part. But when they need new plans laid out, things might get tricky.

Well, is anyone really going to argue the matter, at least for now?

So in a way, they are in charge, at least until nations step back from the emergency footing they're on now.

An in theory, if or when Mister Atom makes his political play, then you can vote for him, since he's an American citizen...

At least with the pardon, he's going to be able to vote.

Yeah, the presidential pardon thing will probably do a lot of heavy lifting for the League Auxiliaries members.

Huh. Well, I guess she's free to do that. Seems worrying, that she'd just run off like that. Guess her experiences left her a bit... Loaded down with trauma...

Ah, another one doing well with his fresh pardon.

...No magical education for the foreseeable future. Still, he's got lots to work with as it is.

At least it's being worked on. Sadly, I suspect it's not as easy as putting up a big sign above Poseidonis saying 'All clear, bad guys beaten'.

To be fair, there were extenuating circumstances. I think Abra will forgive you.

At least, ones without a pardon.

That could be bad for Barry, though I suspect he's gotten a bit darker after the Sheeda invasion stuff as well.

And if any of his buddies try something, you can introduce them to your knuckles.

Perhaps some of them will continue going straight. Hopeful, indeed.

Ah, nice to see them back, and doing well. It'll be interesting to see where all of them end up down the line, and which of the auxiliaries stay on the straight and narrow and which slip into old habits. I suspect a part of that will be up to the public's reactions to them. And hopefully none of them are having trouble dealing with the shit they saw out there...

 

Thank you, corrected.

I checked an American government website, and a lot of states appear to let anyone who's finished their sentence vote in federal elections. Surprised me, actually.

 

As I recall, a century ago very few states allowed felons to vote, but that's been slowly changing ever since, mostly since the Civil Rights movement and mostly by ballot measure.

 

It's always good to see someone turn their life around, esp. if you've been helping them.

 

As a British person, I regard America as a civil rights movement.

 

Leonard Snart? He's the guy he got his cold tech from.