With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Does Jade count?

 

love it. ESPECIALLY because everything is moving to Greece, where Heph would eventually return. i would fucking love to see some kind of Heph/Atom conflict or merging or whatever else. keep boosting that global Hellenism.

anyone want to give me a quick TL;DR of why this is such an enormous deal? Abra helped, is now free...? things are still generally fucked up so it's not exactly Paul's fault that he can't deliver on whatever part of the deal is getting violated.

so am i. congrats Zoat, you've/Paul's got carte blanche to rewrite the cultural and economic development of Earth. please don't fuck it up, as i'm genuinely curious to see what the new hierarchy of the world becomes.

 

abra came back in time to learn magic, ended up getting frustrated because Atlantis didn’t allow visitors at the time and assumed Zatara was fake, so ended up a supervillain. Paul got him to turn himself in in exchange for getting him into Atlantis to learn magic, which he can’t do now because Atlantis isn’t allowing visitors… again

 

And now the episode epilogue happens when terry is still young joy

 

Random thought, how did Eris target the pie at the un-trackable Paul?

 

Presumably because he's gotten predictable.

(Defense spells in Atlantis targeted Paul by detecting the sound he made when he spoke rather then try and target the sense proof Paul).

 

Correction: Canada was and is a civil rights movement. America was and is an UNcivil rights movement. They fought a big war for independence, we got independence by asking nicely.

 

Canada is the follow-up movement riding the coattails of America's success. Asking nicely wouldn't have worked if we hadn't done it first.

 

Oh, dear, now I'm wondering if I should be expecting the other shoe to drop.

... as an American, I can't exactly dispute that, but it's more like we're several different movements, some of which agree with each other to some degree.

 

It seems like minor Demons like Blarg could actually be extremely valuable (to their summoners if not the wider society) as a replacement for the basic labor that requires human intelligence and communication but not much else. I am imagining major corporations replacing their customer service and database management staff with a horde of Slime Demons.

 

So is this Renegades adventures before he met the First?

Hmm, looks like it isn't.

"slime"

I mean I guess it can be used in magical rituals and alchemy.

Maybe it can be used to trap souls.

Well Hell was created in a place that's kinda adjacent to nothingness by a being that has a close connection to a universal level cosmic being, so of course it'd be interesting.

Fair point.

"mortals"

Well when you live in Hell I guess staying alive is a major accomplishment.

And depressingly that can also apply to a lot of places on Earth.

 

I'm reminded of an urban fantasy story where zombies were used as cheap manual labor.

I can see slime demons potentially being used as maybe cleaning agents.

If they can crawl through spaces and absorb filth then that's one use.

 

That text color needs to be fixed.

 

A measure that's likely to be very small. I see the Renegade is taking his consultancy seriously, at least. Hopefully he negotiated his contract very carefully. The First is the sort to seize on any small mistake to mess with someone...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

In other words, the little guy is so terrified that it can't even speak. Off to a great start.

An odd choice. I can't imagine he's forgotten why he agreed to this, so... Why delay the ability to do it?

...Okay, a month isn't that bad. and if the Renegade can't make some improvements in a month, then he should just retire now.

Whatever it is, I suspect it's nothing impressive.

I suspect for one as simple as this one, name and function are one and the same.

You'd think that... Then you see ooze-girls...

So, set dressing, among other things. The sort of thing I'd expect in the realm of Dreams, rather than Hell.

...That actually sounds useful. After all, who thinks about the traces they leave around them every moment, the tiny flakes of skin we don;'t even notice we shed...

...Just imagine the uses for such discarded nothings.

An entire arcane realm to poke around in and study? Why would she not be interested?

Since Hell technically extends everywhere all at once. It's just that we never see any bits of it beyond Earth's part.

Especially something as... I hate to say pathetic, but...

...On the other hand, who would pay attention to it? Even the most suspicious demon would go 'get away from me, you whelp.'

Well, depending on the composition of the slime, that could be a risk. Something oily and flammable...

Heh. I love that that's a concern for him. How his slime would react with bleach, or drain cleaner, or any number of cleaning agents.

Smart guy. This is the kind of demon you want to talk to, the ones who survive through thick and thin.

Maximum profit for minimum effort. Quite clever indeed.

I suspect uttering Constantine's name could trigger a panic... Smart to avoid it.

So he avoids peril by being such a non-threat no-one would want to bother.

Heh. Just pulled through by accident, eh? Well, they are the kind that rely on quantity, not quality.

Ah, right. Gotta pay to play, and in this game...

As long as there are conditions about what level of sacrifice gets you. Discouraging human sacrifice might sound like a nice idea to implement, but I suspect some stronger demons would baulk at agreeing to it...

For someone this weak, just existing is probably a fine reward.

Survival. A fine drive.

...Tempted to post the 'this is my hole' meme, but too much trouble to find it.

Interesting idea. Use the weakest to overthrow the strong. Or at least inconvenience them.

So, looks like this episode will focus on the Renegade giving Hell a once-over and implementing some improvements, huh. I suppose part of the contract states that he has to leave the place better off than he started, so no half-assing the job even if his godly nature didn't demand it be done well. Just a matter of whether that'll be good for everyone else or not.

 

The first red one is missing an ou, and the next is missing only a u.

 

Imagine slime demon baths becoming the next beauty fad. Take a dip in a slime girl and have your skin and pores deep cleaned and exfoliated.

 

Unless I've got the dates wrong it's several days after.

Thank you, corrected.

Technically, that's a thing that can happen. In practice it's far too weak.

Thank you, corrected.

Sadly, this forum doesn't recognise English English in tags.

Thank you, corrected.

Slime demons lack sexual characteristics, and would struggle to fake it convincingly.

 

on -> of

 

Though that still leaves the bath option available.

Spas often boast that they can take away stress, and maybe demon slime baths can literally take it away.

 

Probably because whenever a more powerful bring is with a less powerful being in Hell then that means the more powerful being wants to hurt the less powerful one.

I can now see demonologists, necromancers and other assorted mystical miscreants summoning these things to clean up their previous bases of operation so that any sort of hunters or more noble mystics can't trace them.

A positive way for them to use their powers could be by cleaning up particularly nasty places that may have a lot of negative energy, like concentration camps or gulags.

 

That wasn’t who I was referring to, but yeah, that’s definitely a guy he worked with that I had forgotten about.

That makes at least two of us!

I was under the impression that demons just got to naturally respawn in Hell if they died outside, unless killed by theurgy or somesuch. Do they normally leave a bit behind or do Slime Demons do this because they’re so weak? If the latter, does that make them resistant to normal demon-killing methods? It would fit with the desire to survive.

Reminds me of the Overlord light novels.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Yes. And your skin, your memories and quite important parts of your soul.

 

and this is just delightful

 

I don't think English English is a thing. I think you mean Actual English.

 

Slime can solve the traveling salesman problem in linear time. Put this demon in touch with the right people and they'd literally sell their souls to him.

 

I was reading the story only thread and found that this link doesn't work anymore.

 

If you are going to have a hell, it might as well be organised.

You would be amazed how untidy an ecosystem gets if nothing is bottom-feeding. Lot of stuff that needs to be broken down and you can’t expect the high and mighty predators to do it.

 

So... am I the only one that was hearing Renegade's dialogue in the style of John McGinley from Office Space?

 

Anyone remember where it went?