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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. WereDragon

    WereDragon Bookwyrm

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    Interesting twist.
    We know from the main SI that one of his versions had the muted emotions associated with the Evil Formula. So either this guy relapses, entirely plausible given his reaction, or multiple of them were that stupid and only some of them got dragged back to sanity.

    Artemis needs a utility belt upgrade. What kind of gadgeteer doesn’t have the essentials like tissue paper?
     
  2. CTrees

    CTrees Chasing the ring

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    I never really saw Artemis as the sort of heroine that prioritized comforting people in distress. I just don't see Sportsmaster including that in his "training" sessions, you know?
     
  3. Mr Zoat

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    I SAW IT WHEN I POSTED! I SAW IT WHEN I POSTED!
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  4. Darko

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    Plus even if she did have something to comfort people with, like tissues, she may have left them somewhere in the base instead of carrying them on her while she's there.
     
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  5. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 Not too sore, are you?

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    Huh, now that was interesting. He's been stretched out pretty far, snapping back like this makes sense.

    I'm curious how things go from here.

    ...the idea of his body having adapted to need some byproduct of the serum is ridiculous, right?
     
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  6. LazySloth13

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    Depending on if there's any side effects, both negative and positive, from removing the formula from his system may motivate Paul to further study the creation or discovery of other forms of empowerment. Not to mention his own preference to the state of mind where he can achieve the results he wants without compromising himself or possibly upsetting his coworkers/teammates if he stills considers their opinions important.

    It sort of like how Bane own use of venom gradually turned him less of strategist and more into a mindless brute until he focused on create a new strain of venom that let him keep his mental faculties.

    TangPaul at first tries to use other methods of focus and empowerment but finds them too unwieldy or ineffective and gets frustrated how he can't get the same results as before. His teammates and superiors try to use the same old platitudes seen in superhero media of finding strength/power from within, or how being powerful isn't everything to being a hero, and how the formula and other power ups are just a crutch and he's better without them. Of course this falls on deaf ears as TangPaul isn't native to the world where such a speech would be super effective, because to him while fighting and dying for noble causes may sound great but living to see another day is better especially if doing so costs very little to achieve. As admirable Batman and other non-powered heroes can be in the face of especially powerful and deadly foes they tend to die easily, especially without plot armor just to emphasize how outclassed they are against certain enemies or situations their training doesn't prepared them for.

    Things escalate after a few close calls or the injury/death of a teammate or bystanders during a mission that could have otherwise been avoided had he been more capable. Along with them maybe hesitant to accept any sort of upgrade or equipment he finds or creates to help them in the field as well, if not outright denying his help.
     
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  7. RoninSword

    RoninSword Sky God

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    So how is Tangseid still being adjusted if he doesn't have his ring on?
    My worry was that it would start adjusting him and then his mood swing would have him stop part 2ay through.
    Edit: not having his ring on fixes that issue but then how is he being adjusted?
     
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  8. Blue1ao

    Blue1ao I miss sleeping

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    Hades getting the love he deserves T.T he went through it had everything got everything then lost it all and tried to better himself it's finally paying off
     
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  9. Threadmarks: Hellish Consent (part 14)
    Mr Zoat

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    2nd November 2010
    16:34 GMT -5


    I don't look around as the door opens, and not just because I'm busy clamping down on the fear of someone taking my things away or attacking me and the anger about someone coming into my place without knocking. I mostly don't look around because-

    "Hey. You still doing okay?"

    -Artemis has done this every day this week so far.

    I turn around and… Yes, it… Does feel more natural to smile like this. "I'm… Doing alright, thank you."

    "Ah, good."

    "No, not 'good', just 'alright'. Still getting the mood-."

    Great, I was trying not to-.

    She nods. "The mood swings, yeah. I… Think I can tell what you're feeling."

    "Oh?"

    "Yeah." She nods again. "Your face moves a lot more now. And you don't try and stop it."

    "No, I do, I just-." And I stiff upper lip through a wave of worthlessness. "I just don't succeed."

    She nods, then looks around. "So what are you working on now. See you've… Still got the rats."

    "I.. think I rather owe them a quiet retirement. Since I-. I know I just agreed 'no injections' and Vitamin X is usually taken orally, it wouldn't technically…" I nod and shrug. "But I understood the intent, and I'm not going to…" I shrug again. "So I'm basically just clearing this place out."

    "So we'll see you around more?"

    "Ah… Maybe. I'm actually… I'm.. still interested in making improvements to myself, I'm just… Going to avoid altering my body from now on."

    She nods. "So… Better armor?"

    "Acquiring magic artefacts. I'm not an-. I don’t have much experience of designing armour, it's probably better I just pay an actual professional for it."

    She looks pretty darn sceptical. "Are magic artefacts better?"

    "It varies, but it's a lot easier to ask a trustworthy magician to take a look than it is to ask for volunteers for experimental injections."

    She thinks for a moment. "I guess as long as someone's looking at it first that's okay. Did you have someplace in mind to go looking?"

    I nod. "Bolivia. Back in the sixties a minor supervillain called 'Diablo' operating out of the Bolivian jungle put together a small paramilitary using a mind control amulet."

    She frowns. "What happened to him?"

    "Run over by a tank. I read the biography of the man who beat him, and as far as I can tell the amulet got broken during their fight. Since it was broken and he had other things to worry about he just left the parts there."

    "A mind control amulet."

    "It's a lot safer to mind control people into giving up than it is to fight them, for them and us. You remember that talk Batman did about the results of repeated traumatic head injuries?"

    "And that's all it can do?"

    "The man who beat him -his name was Timothy Kelly- more or less tripped over his operation, and didn't study exactly what happened. The people he controlled snapped out of it almost immediately, so it's… Pretty safe."

    "'Pretty safe' mind control."

    "Ah…" I frown. "Did I..? Ever tell you exactly what orange power rings can do?"

    She closes her eyes and exhales through her nose. "Mind control."

    "No, worse. It's possible to use an orange ring to turn someone into a construct. Aaaaand it's permanent. Naturally I haven't used it…" I shrug, and she looks disturbed.

    "What's that..? Like?"

    "I don't know. I know it's possible to build working construct computers, so there's nothing… Fundamental about a mind that means that it couldn't become a construct without losing consciousness. I don't know what it does to the victim's soul, I don't know how much control the ring would have over them…" I fan out my hands. "Actually, it's… Possible to make a mind control construct with any ring if you know what you're doing, but it's… Difficult."

    "That's kinda terrifying."

    I shrug. "You know there are more guns in the US than people, right?"

    "I.. guess." She shudders, looking away.

    "Ah, I, I recognise that response. Is it something you want to talk about it?"

    She shrugs. "I.. nearly got made an Alice one time. Mad Hatter came around my junior school playground, and I saw one of the other girls get abducted. I still remember what it looked like. She had this.. blank stare, and creepy.. doll-smile."

    I think about saying 'it would have been worse if he'd shot her', but I don't think that trauma really works that way.

    Instead, I nod in understanding. "Batman had a look at Mister Tetch's hat designs, and… Basically, if you don't have Mister Tetch's particular psychological abnormalities, you can't use them. And, yes, I don't intend to ever do that to anyone. And I may not even be able to put the amulet back together; it just seems like it would be really useful."

    "Yeah, I guess-." She frowns. "Does it work on the guy using it?"

    "Ah… I don't know."

    "Cause I don't think either of us wanna go through this again."

    "No. And.. I-." I mean, testing that function sounds like it would be sensible, but I understand where she's coming from. "I.. think I can give testing that a miss."

    "Hm. Maybe I should come with you anyway. Make sure you don't do anything stupid."

    "That.. might be a good idea." She smiles faintly. "Ah, I won't be going for a few days; until my mood stabilises it wouldn't be safe for me to use the ring. Or for.. anyone I was carrying."

    She nods. "I'll bring a parachute." She takes a deep breath, eyes dipping. "So you're-. Ah, you're obviously different… Like this."

    "Not being a psychopath."

    "Yeah. Yeah, that. So…" Her eyes dart up to my face, then drop again. "Have you… Like… Thought about..?"

    "Whether or not I want to keep dating you?"

    She metaphorically girds her loins and looks me full in the face. "Yeah. I mean, the attention was… Kinda nice, but you weren't-. You, so… No pressure if you don't or anything."

    She shrugs.

    "Artemis, I… I wasn't lying when I said how admirable I find you, but-" I smile awkwardly. "-my brain's still a mess. Any answer I gave you now… It's not reliable. I could feel completely differently in either direction once my amygdala settles down."

    "Yeah, I.. guess that's fair. Oh, ah, Mom wants me to invite you over for dinner."

    I nod. "And I would be happy to attend."

    "I mean, today."

    "Oh. Ah, in that case…" I take a look around my workshop. Nothing that needs to be made safe right away. "Let me go and change my clothes."
     
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  10. Darko

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    So the Eye is responsible for the whole going evil thing.

    Yeah...

    So this is how Artemis gets enslaved.

    How many more Tangseid chapters are left before we move on?
     
  11. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Ah yes... To recover from using something called the Evil serum you go after a magical Amulet from someone calling themselves Diablo.

    How is he this stupid?
     
  12. Whenever Possible

    Whenever Possible Versed in the lewd.

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    TBF, he's not exactly in a healthy state of mind.
     
  13. Oglymogly

    Oglymogly I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Thank you for the chapter! I just wanted to say I'm enjoying the Tangseid chapters, because I like horror stories, and that is what I feel this storyline is.
     
  14. Chojin Patriarch

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    Somehow, I don't they'd be asking that if they could see his emotional landscape. Good gravy, talk about a mood pendulum. And I don't think he'll be okay anytime soon. Safe bet his Ring is currently confiscated for his safety.

    At least she's been keeping an eye on him.

    He's still a long way from good...

    Heart on his sleeve, eh? Or rather, his face.

    Heh. Bet he looks a little twitchy, though.

    Hopefully he's just winding down his lab work safely.

    :confused: ...I feel kind of called out now, since I noted that loophole. Still, good to see he's following through.

    Yes, much better to focus on skills and equipment than improving innate characteristics...

    Well, they're harder on Ring charge, if nothing else.

    There's those trust issues, of course. I don't see them allowing him to make any changes without extensive checks first.

    ...Uh, no. Hell, no. Anything linked to someone named 'Diablo' is bound to be trouble.

    Yes, she has a right to be worried.

    Something he's had plenty of experience doling out, of course. No doubt his doctor friend gave him some sharp words early on.

    Hardly the thing you want in the hands of someone who just got free of a morality-dispelling serum...

    ...Oh, they have no idea what he can do if he tries, huh?

    That's reassuring, at least. Even at his worst he never crossed that line, then.

    Admittedly, any consciousness emulated on an Orange Ring might run a little more avariciously...

    Let's not get into that argument, shall we?

    Ah, right. Gotham native. She's probably seen her share of mind-control incidents. Hopefully not up close and...

    :eek: ...Personal. Yipes.

    ...I mean, he could use it to stabilise his mental state, at least until he can manage it himself...

    Once bitten, twice shy. And for good reason.

    Chances of that are slim, but hope is always good.

    Yeah, one surge of anger or fear, or anything else, and suddenly you're in freefall... Doesn't sound fun at all.

    For a start: Half your age, Tang.

    On the upside, there's likely to be less 'dates' involving animal testing...

    Putting it off until later, I see. Good move.

    Well, this could be awkward.

    Honestly, while we know how things will turn out if he gets the Left Eye, the Right Eye would have been perfect for his desired upgrade. Pity it's probably still in the hands of its current owner. And really, he shouldn't be going after any enhancements anytime soon, until his brain settles back into whatever passes for normal now. Alas, he's not really thinking straight, after all...
     
  15. Darko

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    Not necessarily.

    The guy was imprisoned and the Right Eye was taken by the British government.
     
  16. Wivk

    Wivk Know what you're doing yet?

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    Are all the non dangerous non evil enhancements, armors, and artifacts already in use by other heroes or something? Why is everything he keeps going for something only an insane villain would bother with?
     
  17. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Tim Kelly's son had the right eye and was a British Government goon in the Gravy section.

    While it is another universe, Zoat does like keeping it simple when it comes to dimensional differences, so I would be surprised if he went with the actual Albion storyline in this reality.

    He can use his ring to reverse engineer tech like Paul did with Rocket's inertia belt, so that's not an excuse.
     
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  18. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    is -> of
    taken -> taking
    gave -> give
     
  19. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    No, I think that's correct.
     
  20. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    look around

    Missing the ' after alright.
     
  21. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  22. Threadmarks: Hellish Consent (part 15)
    Mr Zoat

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    5th November 2010
    09:02 GMT -5


    Artemis and I walk towards the training room zeta tube. Normally we'd have a team training-.

    There's a gust of displaced air as Wallace appears. "Ah, hey, where you guys off to?"

    Artemis smiles. "Bolivia."

    "Are you..? Blowing off class?"

    I shake my head. "I'm signed off for another couple of days while my brain fixes itself. Artemis is coming along as my minder."

    "Okay, I guess. Does the League even have a zeta tube in Bolivia?"

    I shake my head again. "No. We're going to Lima and then flying there."

    "You mean on a plane, or are you using your ring? Because if your brain's still acting up that's probably not a good idea."

    Artemis and I hold up our right fists. "I copied Booster Gold's flight ring. Don’t tell the Legion of Super Heroes."

    "Who are-?" He nods. "Time travel, right." He shrugs. "Have fun, I guess."

    "We will, thanks." Artemis nods, then turns to the zeta tube opening. "See you later."

    "Recognized, Orange Lantern, B zero five, Artemis, B zero six."

    5th November 2010
    10:04 GMT -4


    We step out inside an empty corridor in a WayneTech-owned factory, whose sole purpose is to conceal the zeta tube.

    "So how good are these flight-rings?"

    "The environmental shield is pretty useful, but the flight is fairly slow." Which fits with what I remember of the League's attack on the sun-eater in the comics. "It would be better to fly-" We both start walking towards the exit. "-by power ring."

    She nods. "And just use these rings if you have an-. Issue. So how would that work?"

    "I can just carry you along." I pause, smirking as she glances at me. "Or I could just bridal carry you. I'm still strong enough to-" She looks away. "-do that."

    "Really?"

    "Sure. You don't weigh that much, and I'm still in peak human condition. Or I could give you a piggy-."

    "Alright." She pushes the door open and I just stop for a moment. She hear that and turns back. "What?"

    "Oh, I just didn't think you'd-."

    "You don't have t-."

    "No no. I offered." She hesitates, then carries on outside. I follow her out of the building and into the rear area of the factory. A few large bins and a lot of discarded cigarette remains. I take a step closer, the stop as I try and work out how to do this. Okay, so I can-. I half-crouch, and-. Left arm holding her legs is easy, but her quiver is sort of in the way and there's no obvious place to move it. "So…"

    She holds out her left arm to put it around my back, then realises my problem. "Y-eah, how do you-?"

    "If I put your bow and quiver into subspace?"

    She nods, and I carefully focus on storing them, causing them to disappear in a ripple of orange light. Then I lean in, right arm going around her back.

    "Okay, grab on."

    "Uh-huh." She grabs on, and-. And our faces are really quite close together, and-. She's noticed it too.

    Damn it.

    I shift down a little and push my left arm into her houghs, which apparently is the proper name for 'knee pits', and lift.

    Okay. Faces aren't so close together anymore, but I'm not sure this is better.

    "Comfortable?"

    "Uuuh, yeah."

    "Nice deltoids."

    She snorts and lightly slaps my back with her left hand as we take off and head east.

    And what the heck am I going to do about that?

    Because I remember doing a pretty good job of hitting on her, despite having no capacity for empathy and barely being able to read human expression. I worry what that means for humanity more generally, but… Aside from the Evil Formula… I'm someone she likes, and I got rid of that while a psychopath because she asked me to.

    I'm trying not to look at her desires, but I can feel how relaxed she is like this, looking down and the Bolivian panorama beneath us. And I'm pretty sure she was blushing under her foundation a couple of times there.

    Why couldn't I have been this good with fifteen year old girls when I was fifteen?

    I mean… Ugh. Between her mother being in prison and her father being busy being a supervillain, Artemis basically raised herself for half of her life. She's a heck of a lot mature than I was at fifteen, ignoring the fact that the adults in her life are fine with her being a vigilante. A bow-armed vigilante.

    And my mouth outran my brain and told everyone that I'm sixteen. Which means that as far as she's concerned everything's great now. And… I'm rather.. fond of her too.

    Alright, in practical terms… I don't have to worry about becoming physically old while she's still young. I won't age as long as I have the ring, and I've rejuvenated my tissues and telomeres so even without it I'd probably be younger longer than she will. No need to worry about sperm quality decay, for example.

    Uh.

    I can… Oh. I don't know-. I can remember how it felt, to not… Care about… 'rightness'. The form of my own thoughts, and… I'm pretty sure I could just decide not to care. Ring, check my brain?

    Still working normally, sport. Teenage girls don't stop being attractive just because you've got morals again. You could always say you aren't interested in having a relationship for professional reasons.

    You've remembered that you're an orange ring, right?

    Yes, and while you do want the hot girl, you also want to be a moral person.

    Can I just take a bunt? Chances are that this relationship won't work anyway.

    You shouldn't, but I'll take what I can get.

    Great. Thank you.

    We're here, by the way.

    "Going down."

    I swoop down into the jungle, hovering in front of an overgrown tank.

    Artemis stares. "Is that..?"

    Scan.

    "Yeah." I land, set her down and return her weapon. "His body's over there. We should-. We should probably get.. someone to recover the bodies. Bury them."

    She nods sombrely. "And what about the Left Eye?"

    I've seen pictures of the Right Eye, and descriptions in the memoirs, but I don't know for certain what it looks like. Assuming it looks the same… Ring?

    Orange light runs across the ground in a wave, then bits of crystal begin flying out of the ground to hover in front of me. Gradually, the broken parts of the gem stick themselves back together, and I catch it just as the glow cuts out.

    And it occurs to me that I could use this to remove Artemis's affection. Just dial it down-.

    [​IMG]

    No.

    "That was easy."

    I nod. "Mission accomplished. But I think it would be worth looking at the Temple of Zoltec while we're here. Interested in some sightseeing?"
     
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  23. Firewillreign

    Firewillreign Know what you're doing yet?

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    Okaaay... I think it's official.

    We've been bamboozled. Either this is an alternate Tangseid, or not Tangseid at all.
     
  24. Ngamer11

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    Missing threadmark.

    That should say 'using'.

    I still think it's too early to tell for sure.
     
  25. Bigking321

    Bigking321 Not too sore, are you?

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    Oh hell...

    The renegade path is tang and said yes to mind control. This one took paragon and said no.
     
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    Or Artemis dies and he choses to never feel again.
     
  27. Darko

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    Seriously don't know why the various Paul's don't just tell their true age.

    Not sure that's really a good thing given everything.

    I mean nice for not mind controlling her, but this is still really creepy.

    The Tangseid we first saw was in 2012 in universe.

    This is taking place in 2010, so a lot of things could have happened.
     
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  28. Firewillreign

    Firewillreign Know what you're doing yet?

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    This is the best explanation hands down.
     
  29. earlyriser

    earlyriser Getting sticky.

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    My guess? The training sim. Artemis “dies” first and M’gann brainwashed the team to believing it was real. Paragon merged with the Ophidian. Tangsied had other options at his disposal.
     
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    Flight through the power of litigation! Amazing what lawyers can do!
     
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