With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Doubt it. This guy was tortured by humans for the entirety of his life, literally since he was born. He's not going to be satisfied by anything that won't give him the opportunity to kill every human on the planet.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

I see that Grayven has kept up his usual fighting strategy of just tanking everything thrown at him; at this point I think the guy is half masochistic or something.

Still, mission accomplished I suppose. Now what's the strategy to convince this guy to defend the planet? He has some serious and understandable grievances, which unfortunately are probably directed at the human species, even if the guys responsible are mostly dead. How developed is his personality or even brain? He might be on some Doomsday brain pattern regarding humans, honestly.

 

well i mean if anyone can bring him around, its Gravy. i wonder what god enlightenment might do for this guy?

Zoat, by the way, what happened to all of the other god-enlightened people Gravy had around him? the slavishly obsessed speedster, the tiger guy... i can't remember if Lynne got enlightened, but that would be wild if she was some kind of psychic god. we got examples of Artemis' godhood during the whole Sheeda story. wasn't Kaldur enlightened too? it felt like Gravy was handing it out like candy there for awhile, and i was hoping he was building his own pantheon but i guess it got put on a back burner or something.

 

She did, and also got a piece of Grayven's own soul during thr process, if I recall. That's how their father-daughter bond started/was made.

That's also true. It fixed the "defects" in the amphibious spell that he got, so I think he was on the same level as a Pure Atlantean and probably on his way to some Ahri'ahn-level stuff.

I believe there was something like that. When Devilance came to "test him", Grayven kinda bullshitted/admited to it and to me the concept was pretty interesting. However, since he left the Team and generally distanced himself from the League and his former friends, all of that has been pretty much abandoned. Now it's all about the New Light, I think, and some of them have been Elevated as well.

 

Nothing. His species aren't compatible.

They're all good. Misa is splitting her time between her modelling career and Grayven security force. Mr. Tawny is expecting his first litter with his wife on Karna. Lynne has been avoiding the infusion chamber due to her father's desire for to have as normal a childhood as circumstances allow rather than juicing her metaphysique. Artemis ended up deciding that it would be best to finish high school so that she can learn to human again, but intends to join Grayven''s security force after that rather than bother with college. Kaldur is as straight-edged as ever.

 

If I remember correctly, Kid Flash was also Awakened. All I remember about his changes is that becoming a New God got rid of the defects of his version of the Garrick Formula. He also mentioned that he can sort of hear something when someone speaks Godspeech when Artemis asked him about it, but that's probably the extent of the changes.

 

‘with an oblong’?

‘who ended’?

‘comrades’’?

‘from snapping!’

‘to fold’?

‘mix of’?

That was a quick recovery. I thought he’d be out of his mind even without the drugs.

 

Thank you, corrected.

In the comics, ever with everything he went through, the moment he realised that Superman wasn't human he stopped attacking him.

 

He may not be an impressive instance but he's still Batman. Never underestimate him.

 

By that logic, All-Star Batman is a threat.

 

Fixed that for you.

 

His speed became as fast as whoever the faster if the elder Flash was. His test on the treadmill had him reach 0.97c before Grayven stopped it (imo because he wqs worried about what would happen if he actually crossed c).

 

My mistake; thank you for catching that.

I am serious about the point I made, though. He’s dangerous enough to civilians, but ‘being a Batman’ does not make Crazy Steve threatening to Grayven. There’s a reason that they sent the member of the League who was weak to Yellow - and no one else - to rein him in: because anyone else would have won.

 

Well he is extremely likely to give renegade a headache.

 

Fair, but Grayven’s response to that headache is likely to be ‘obliterate the annoyance.’

 

So begins Grayven’s Doomsday wrangling arc.

 

I'm guessing it's not a natural expression for his people, but he's seen humans do it and knows what it means.

Technically, he didn't.

Unless you're Actually Grayven that thinks he's Paul.

"paleobiologist"

Kill her! Do it now!

Add a " after "lame"

I remember watching an American Dad episode where Steve astral projected himself back into the past and saw feathered dinosaurs.

One of them sounded like a chicken.

Unless they were told that he invaded the planet and was captured.

After Zod's invasion, they may have been fully convinced that others tried something similar.

There's also the question of how much choice they actually had.

After seeing that the government was fully willing to torture someone for years they may have thought that if they refused then they'll join him on the vivisection table.

 

I am very curious as to what Hippolyta thinks of the Renegade after seeing this and hearing what he plans to do now. Also, is there anyone specific at those two locations that the Renegade wants to recruit?

 

I'm honestly wondering if we'll see some Kryptonians that may have been captured.

 

Ah, so the point is to target his desire for revenge to... productive endeavors, if you will.

I'm still not sure how that transitions into getting this guy into a Superhero team, though, which is essentially what he told Hippolyta he was trying to do, no?

And I wholeheartedly believe in science... but I'm also mad that now dinosaurs have feathers and Pluto isn't a main planet anymore. But we have to accept it, if not, we are no better than the ice wall and flat earth lunatics we have running around.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Looking back, he may not be trying to do that. At least not in the traditional sense.

I think he's planning on staging an attack on Earth and he's recruiting people like Subjekt here to help him with the charade.

He's basically taking Steppenwolf's place in this scenario and is planning on having the League form by trying to stop him.

 

Worrying, that he didn't feel that at all. Either he's got so many aches and pains that being carved open like that didn't even register, or his people have a strange pain response. I'd be worried about his long-term health, but he's been around for seventy years so far...

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Ah, yes. Because when your baseline is enough to make a regular person scream, one more sting doesn't even get a mention.

Given the way his face was described, I can't picture it being comfortable.

Gee, how would he tell?

Like Darko said, it's probably not a natural movement. I suspect a subvocal warble would be the more likely response alongside a telepathic pulse. But he's never experienced his own people's responses, so...

Now, now. Business first, fun vengeance later.

Obviously he's going to assume all humans are like the ones that hurts him, after all.

It's the only one he's known, after all.

Anyone know what the situation would have been like in the USSR roughly the year he was born? Be amusing if he eventually decided to run for Premier. Or president, or whatever Russia of this Earth has going.

Probably half-confused at what you're doing, but feeling the empathy in it and responding to it. Kid really needs a mum and dad.

Psychic senses, or...

Ah, right, the ladies. Probably should have guessed he wouldn't take kindly to their presence.

He may be wondering why the Renegade is trying to protect them, and since he's shown he can outfight Seventeen...

Surprising, I would have though they'd be driving for the hills by now.

...I don't think he's much interested in talking, Renegade. If he's got any telepathic abilities, he might rip information out of their minds, but for the most part... He's going to be painting the base red.

Just because he's not evil, doesn't mean he has to be nice.

Admittedly, this world might not even have the term 'superhero', though Superman had made some efforts in that field.

And do you know what they did to him, more or less?

And they are rather cute. But dammit, I prefer the dragon-adjacent classic style.

That is true. Unless they super-specialise in a particular field (like, Dogs, Cats, Birds, that sort of thing) Vets are a sort of prototype xenobiologist, having to know a bit about all manner of non-human physiologies...

Look at it this way, Doc: You might be able to become the world's first experienced xenobiologist.

All it takes for evil to persist is for good men to do nothing. Of course, depending on the right good man...

I hope that sculpted onesie includes a diaper, otherwise she might just be feeling a little soggy right now...

And perhaps he found that vengeance isn't the relief he thought it would be, perhaps. Or he's just disappointed they died so quickly.

Which is significant. Given that for the most part, before Superman went public, no-one knew there were aliens about, did they?

Don't sound so eager, Renegade.

Interesting. I wonder who... We'll find out soon, I bet.

Nice to see he's enthusiastic, at least. Pity about the subject of that enthusiasm.

That went... Surprisingly well. I would have expected him to press the attack on the ladies, but maybe he realised they weren't like the one who hurt him. They wouldn't be as afraid, for one thing. Still, if they can keep his aggression pointed at deserving targets, the Renegade might be able to make use of him. Now, who's next on the list, I wonder?

 

Though hopefully not by seeing his insides after he eats her.

And if any doubted him being an alien then the big ship destroying a city probably put those doubts to rest.

The Chinese facility may hold several metahumans, and possibly Durlans.

 

I think something is wrong with this sentence, but I don’t understand what it’s trying to say exactly.

‘breaches’

First time I’ve seen it without a second ‘e’. Interesting.

’than’

Come to think of it, how did they keep a kryptonian-strength alien under control for seventy years? He wasn’t kept unconscious for all of it, obviously, so how? Did they have a drug mixture that paralysed his skeletal muscles or something?

 

In the comics Subjekt 17 was apparently vulnerable to certain sound frequencies which caused pain and convulsions.

So maybe that is what they used.

 

Something we can't talk about on this website happened in China in 1995.

Thank you, corrected.

Something like that.

 

I'm noticing a distinct lack of using an orange ring...