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Safe For Work Worm Ideas thread

Discussion in 'CW Index' started by Prince Charon, Mar 19, 2014.

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  1. Psyckosama

    Psyckosama Connoisseur.

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    Okay, silly OPM based idea here that actually could work with Worm...

    When Annette died, Danny triggered. His power was based on his own feelings of inadequacy at being unable to protect the people he loves....

    So he gained the ability to become strong. Very strong. He didn't become strong at first, but his natural peek was removed. He basically was blessed with the potential for Infiniate Gainz. Every workout would show strong results, a boost in power and strength that would only become stronger over time... this was coupled with a mild stranger ability that made him, well, generally forgettable and easy to miss.

    Realizing the nature of his power he began an intense daily workout from one of his old fitness books of 100 pushups, 100 sit ups, 100 squats, and 10km run every day...

    In the years since her death he's been actually working as an independent hero on the side... not a very active one, true, but he's basically been doing his best to give the Dockworker's Union some heavy duty backup. When the gangs show up, he shows up and beats the shit out of them, the and because he's making his best effort to really not attract much attention, for fear of the union getting attacked, and a stark terror that he might end up bringing it home and threaten the one thing that really matters to him, his stranger ability kicked in and they never really realize they got their asses kicked by a balding man in a track suit and not one of the other gangs...

    Which leads to him having a second trigger when he finds out that despite his efforts to keep the neighborhood clean... his daughter still was attacked. The shock causes his powers to go haywire and he looses his hair from the emotional stress... his gainz, no longer being a linear progression are now exponential and in addition, he gained a breaker/shaker ability that allows him to use insane degrees of power without destroying himself or those around him...

    With the end result being that by the time Taylor first goes out to fight Lung, he's somewhat on his wits end... while he was very strong before, easily a mid level brute due to the fact that his body seemed to always get stronger and tougher inch by inch... now his strength was starting to hit the business end of the J-curve.

    This of course takes his existing depression and drives it almost to the level of an existential crisis. Despite his power, he couldn't protect that what was most precious to him. He's too strong to use his powers against even the gangs to the point that even the mild thrill he got out of protecting his own. And he can't even just wipe that smile off Alan Barns and Principle Blackwells faces without reducing them to rapidly expanding clouds of vicera... on the low end. It makes him feel weak and impotent.... he keeps trying, keeps pushing, because in the end he really wants to help people but... Being Danny is Suffering.

    Now with that established, the question is...why does Taylor realize her old man is a cape too?

    Before her first run? After? Or hell, when Leviathan shows up?

    I could see it. Realizing that a fucking Kaiju is about to show up, he needs to deal with it in person... so he ends up pulling together a crude costume... a funky yellow Track Suit he still doesn't understand why he bought it, a pair of red rain boots, a pair of red rubber gloves, a belt that honestly used to be one of Annettes, and a cape that to be frank, was off the Alexandria costume Taylor wore for Halloween when she was 12...

    He forgets to use a mask but his stranger ability makes it so people don't really recognize him very well. He's just some bald guy in a crude and stupid costume. Except for one... the one person who'd never forget his face. Taylor.

    She sees her father, dressed like an idiot... stand up to the Endbringer. And then... he punches it... as hard as he can...

    And... well.. this happens.
     
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  2. Psyckosama

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    About the above...

    This could actually explain his failure as a rep too... Passive "who's that guy again" Stranger powers don't work well when you're trying to convince people to do shit. :p

    Who knew? :D

    Would be really funny if about 3/4 of Armsmaster's captures over the past 3 years were him arresting the various villains Danny beat the shit out of during his daily Patrols/Jogs... ;)

    Gotta figure out a way to incorporate the "Hero for Fun" aspect though...
     
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  3. Psyckosama

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    Possible classifications for One Punch Danny

    Brute 12
    (His strength is high enough that it has denied all attempts at measurement. Low end estimates are in the multiple-megatons. He's also able durable to survive his own strength.)
    Breaker 6
    (His powers allow him to limit the collateral damage of his blows to a point. It also introduced a strange Manton limitation with his punches, where individuals he punches are "only" reduced to an explosive font of gore rather than undergoing spontaneous nuclear fusion as could be expected from being hit by a fist moving at relativistic velocities.)
    Mover 10
    (He's able to move and react at speeds that would make it possible for him to dodge his own blows, giving him an estimated high fractional C reaction time. He's able to make at least partial use of his speed due to his Breaker abilities.)
    Shaker 10
    (His stronger punches are powerful enough that missed blows can cause a wide angled force of destruction. Oddly Manton limited, these effects do not do direct damage living beings, but can cause massive damage to the surrounding environment, including geographic rearrangement and modification of global weather patterns.)
    Stranger 4:
    (He projects a field that makes him seem bland and utterly forgettable to the point that he was active as a hero for several years without even being noticed.)
     
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  4. Mr Trickman

    Mr Trickman (Foul Diplomancer)

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    Would there be any other OPM character crosses. I read one worm OPM story on SB where Dragon was a female Genos.
     
  5. Xilph

    Xilph Well worn.

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    That's literally not what Breaker powers are, what you described there was some kind of Shaker power most likely but that's not actually a Breaker. It requires more than just not following normal physics to get a Breaker rating, all powers don't follow normal physics after all. A breaker power requires an altered state of being, which is kinda stupid but the canon explanation for them does have them being closer to Changer powers than anything else, not just ones that blatantly screw with physics, that's all of them really.

    Also, you described something that isn't actually any more impressive than Alexandria for the Brute rating. Multi megaton strength at minimum with no observed upper cap and durability to withstand that? That's Alexandria yeah, the Mover rating is probably accurate, no flight and lowered turning ability limit them a bit but still that's their most impressive attribute.

    Interestingly what's happened done here would have their Brute rating being below their Shaker and Mover ratings most likely, the massive range of the Shaker rating and Worm being significantly more generous on long distance capable Mover powers while fairly harsh on high rated Brute powers would lead to that. Overall, they're basically a much, much faster version of Alexandria that is much more capable of causing collateral damage, but in a direct competition of strength? They're both incalculably strong to anything short of Scion probably, Scion could probably find a power which can do it, also stilling is still broken and naturally leads to them being boned just as much as anyone else, your atoms not being atoms anymore does that. In an arm wrestle or something I'd give it to Saitama most likely, but that's power interaction as Alexandria's seems much worse for immovability and not actually a product of strength so much as Saitama's power just being more versatile and a product of how much mass they can move, although neither really has anything resembling strength at their level, normal physics in how strength should work broke down a long time ago.

    Note all that goes out the window if we count the anti-feats like Saitama being hurt by angry cats or failing to catch an insect, that lowers their mover and brute ratings down to like 3-4 max.

    For the actual idea? The idea is partially self conflicting (if there was no way to exert at all without turning people into clouds they'd be unable to live normally) and the idea of what happens and the premise are just wrong within the rules of Worm which by the premise the power follows.

    The idea of Danny being a cape that doesn't get out much due to being super powerful and basically retired and secret in the first place and Taylor finding out sounds like it could be interesting, although I've only seen it attempted once before and that turned out poorly. It was even more OP than Saitama though, basically had him as Khepri with a range measured in kilometres iirc.
     
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  6. Metallix666

    Metallix666 Versed in the lewd.

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    Honestly, from what I know of OMP, Genos sounds like the more intresting chara.

    But then, if you're going to use his abilities, you might as well go with cyborgs from any other franchise. Ghost in the shell, Deus Ex:HR would make for good crosses.
     
  7. Psyckosama

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    Fair enough.

    Yeah. No. ... Alexandria doesn't do nuclear level punches.

    Alexandria is insanely strong, but she doesn't casually punch with the force of a high yield nuclear weapon.

    They're called gags. Because its a comedy series, and only among vs debating morons does one attempt at comedy outweigh the rest of a fucking series.

    How so? Standard World of Cardboard problems.

    And how does it break the rules of Worm?
     
  8. Psyckosama

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    Genos is easily possible in OPM... just have a Tinker who specializes in cybernetics find a young man who survived, say, the 9 or an Endbringer attack... and he rebuilds him as a combat cyborg so he can become a hero.
     
  9. Xilph

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    And your punches somehow causing explosions isn't a Brute power, touch range explosion inducement is going to be either Striker for the touch range or very possibly Shaker for the giant explosions bit. Alexandria does have literal multi megaton strength, as in the capability to lift multiple megatons of mass or oppose that much force at least. That's a Brute power, explosions are not. Brute is strength/regen/durability type powers, and for you to punch "hard enough" to cause explosions you'll be needing to punch fast with the actual force being mostly secondary pretty much, and it's going to kill tons nearby due to the radiation and whatnot from having nuclear level punches. Saitama doesn't have those side effects, ergo the power is basically the ability to make stuff explode or fly apart by punching them.
    Nah, they're worthless of vs forums and the like for exactly that reason. The primary arguments on those for Saitama are either for or against the infinite power circlejerk that inevitably crops up there, the "one punch anything" one that is contradicted by canon. They did take multiple punches sometimes after all, that's the entire reason why the consecutive punches variants of his attacks exists, when one punch wouldn't cut it. It's more useful when discussing them as a character within a story as it helps establish how they should be treated with the low things.
    No, the World of Cardboard problem ala animated Superman is a problem about not being able to go all out which makes it fundamentally distinct from the uncontrolled strength problem where they break stuff like doors or injure people due to not being able to properly control immense super strength. You described the latter rather than the former, in the former it'd purely be a mental issue as they can perfectly control their strength, "he can't even just wipe that smile off Alan Barns and Principle Blackwells faces without reducing them to rapidly expanding clouds of vicera... on the low end" very heavily implies it's an issue with their ability to control their strength. Otherwise they could do it without those poor effects, as they can't that means they can't lower their strength enough to punch someone with the strength of a normal human which implies serious strength control issues rather than just mental issues over wanting to not hold back.
    A power like that would've never been handed out, totally doesn't fit how powers seem to work in Worm, screws with stuff at too wide a scale too much to be worth the energy upkeep to fake, the stranger addon makes no sense at all really, the scaling aspect is incredibly bizarre for Worm powers.

    But really as I said? While technically yes a shard should be able to grant that power it never would, too many issues and the power should run out of energy far too quickly to be effective for any type of long term data collecting.
     
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  10. Biigoh

    Biigoh Primordial Tanuki Moderator

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    To be honest... there is also the fact that Endbringer aren't "living things".... they just play at it... so erm... Null Lance would kind of fail.
     
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  11. Psyckosama

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    Well, Null Lance does damage robots for some reason... it just doesn't damage statics.
     
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  12. SwiftRosenthal

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    You're doing that thing again, where you jump down the throat of someone who wants to treat Worm's canon as a suggestion rather than an ironclad ruleset. You did it to CoaDS, you're doing it here, and you'd probably do it to the great Worm 1621 the moment you finish reading. Stop that.
     
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  13. Psyckosama

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    So I mixed up on the classifications.

    Now you're just being obtuse. Saitama/One Punch Danny would have strength that would be on the low end multi-megaton as in multiple megatons of TNT. As in Nuclear Weapon. As in his fist is a relativistic Kinetic Kill Vehicle.

    Get a strong enough brute and his fists would cause explosions. It's how Physics works. The oddity with Saitama/OPD would be the fact that he doesn't vaporize a city every time he swings his fist with feeling.

    He's a Brute. Deal with it.

    Saitama vaporizes mountains when he punches them and is from a comic book universe... and his collateral damage when he swings his fist is extreme.

    Except its not. The limitation is effort.

    consecutive punches exist when he wants to reduce something into paint without hitting any harder due to collateral damage.


    That wasn't a control issue. That was a satisfaction issue.

    He'd basically have to gently and carefully love tap both of them to the point that the control he'd have to exert to not kill them would cancel out the momentary satisfaction of decking them. Controlling that level of strength in a fight isn't easy.

    Why you hate fun?

    He basically likes to chose one series and ignore all else. Fuck, he loves to shit on OPM canon whenever possible.
     
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  14. kamenhero25

    kamenhero25 The Masked Writer

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    So I have a sort of outline for We're All Mad Here worked out. At least for the first part. Then some general ideas for the story to move on from there. Would people be down to help with so critiquing and the like?
     
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  15. Master of Squirrel-fu

    Master of Squirrel-fu The Original

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    Cross posting some Omake since I'm fairly proud of them and they can be considered standalone from the story to an extent.

    The original premise was Taylor is Yog Sothoth, Omake is of an After The End Scenario where reality got nuked and Taylor only kept Lisa around after the end while she tries to remake reality after she accidentally the omniniverse.

     
  16. TanaNari

    TanaNari Verified Dick

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    So... this is a crossover with Darkest Dungeon, right?
     
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  17. kamenhero25

    kamenhero25 The Masked Writer

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    What the actual fuck?!
     
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  18. Necrovore

    Necrovore Not too sore, are you?

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    Heh, I remember these, and the fic they were posted for, good times. I think that was one of the few stories were Coil was technically a good guy toward the end wasn't it?
     
  19. Snake/Eater

    Snake/Eater Myth Maker of the North

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    Crossposted on SB and SV, What if the ancient Gods and Goddesses of classical mythology were discovered to be the first Parahumans?
     
  20. Master of Squirrel-fu

    Master of Squirrel-fu The Original

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    Such a thing would only come into play if parahumans had been around for a very long time. So either they will just shrug and think it makes sense or there will be a wave at discovery parahumans are not a thing that popped up in the last 30 years from nowhere. But unless it actually brings to light either meta knowledge about the series or some story revolves around it with new twists being thrown in that aren't in canon it will change nothing.
     
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    TanaNari Verified Dick

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    It wouldn't really add anything to Worm given the setting's premise.

    But if you want a supers setting where mythological creatures and gods were (more or less) real people... I know where to look.
     
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    RangersteveP Versed in the lewd.

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    Taylor can 'play' MtG cards and the effects/creatures come into being.
     
  23. Thread Necromancer

    Thread Necromancer Creator of "mean" and/or "excessive" things

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    Too OP plz nerf
     
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    RangersteveP Versed in the lewd.

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    Let's refine this a bit then. Taylor has to have and maintain an actual deck and powers malfunction or fizzle when high level cards are played.
     
  25. vyor

    vyor Oh that's cute

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    Taylor: Meh. *plays Murder, Boomerang, or Exile*
     
  26. Psyckosama

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    How about the cards are actually consumed when she uses them?
     
  27. RangersteveP

    RangersteveP Versed in the lewd.

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    This works too.
     
  28. Psyckosama

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    Basically she has a trump ability that manifests itself in the form of playing a CCG...

    "She watched way too much fucking Yu-Gi-Oh as a kid..."
     
  29. Snake/Eater

    Snake/Eater Myth Maker of the North

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    What about Tarot Cards?
     
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    Tarot cards can't:
    Lotus Bloom, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Seething Song, Seething Song, Dragonstorm
     
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