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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Mr Zoat, what did Future Renegade do to Luthor after taking over most of the world? And what significant changes has he done within these two months?
 
I'm actually really liking Justice Segu Earth hope this isn't the last time we see it and it's version of the Justice League
 
I was rereading and found a video link that doesn't work anymore; I don't remember what it linked to. Does anyone remember where this quote comes from?
That one I remember.


Mr Zoat, what did Future Renegade do to Luthor after taking over most of the world? And what significant changes has he done within these two months?
Had telepaths destructively read his mind, then publicised his misdeeds before publically executing his technically-living body.
 
Mr Zoat, can anything be done about All-American Boy? Or will he need to stay in a cell for the rest of his life?
 
Mr Zoat, can anything be done about All-American Boy? Or will he need to stay in a cell for the rest of his life?
Putting him in a cell wouldn't work. He needs constant non-violent social interaction to put his human mind back in the driving seat. Turning him back is also a non-starter, as it's pure luck that he survived the first time. He's going to get a re-socialisation process with a g-nome on his shoulder.
 
Putting him in a cell wouldn't work. He needs constant non-violent social interaction to put his human mind back in the driving seat. Turning him back is also a non-starter, as it's pure luck that he survived the first time. He's going to get a re-socialisation process with a g-nome on his shoulder.
How long will it take before he's fit to join whatever organization the Renegade is creating?
 
King Arthur has set up for his experiments with spiritual Mithridatism.
With these two buzz words I was trying to think back to when you conquered a Camelot or interacted with a King Arthur of some kind. Or acquired some Mithril. Took me rereading the chapter and looking up that word to understand.
 
"I never met Superman. You don't need me for that." He paces, staring at the boom tube opening point. "If I'm going to do anything against Darkseid I need to learn to cope with it."

You know, I looked up the DCEU Aquaman's wiki page to see how good he actually is in a fight. I had seen the movies, but there's a lot of stuff I didn't remember well and it was convenient to have it all in one place. The answer is... quite good, actually! Possibly the version of Aquaman that's the toughest combatant we've seen in any universe.

https://dcextendeduniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Aquaman#Powers_and_Abilities

He's definitely fighting in the Apocalyptian Elite weight class. Not top tier, he couldn't beat Steppenwolf, but he can at least make the fight not a joke. Reading through, it seems like Arthur already has training and offense pretty well covered. I think if Renegade wanted to upgrade him, the most useful thing would be to give him some armor that is as good as his magical trident.
 
How long will it take before he's fit to join whatever organization the Renegade is creating?
I don't have a firm figure in mind.
You know, I looked up the DCEU Aquaman's wiki page to see how good he actually is in a fight. I had seen the movies, but there's a lot of stuff I didn't remember well and it was convenient to have it all in one place. The answer is... quite good, actually! Possibly the version of Aquaman that's the toughest combatant we've seen in any universe.

https://dcextendeduniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Aquaman#Powers_and_Abilities

He's definitely fighting in the Apocalyptian Elite weight class. Not top tier, he couldn't beat Steppenwolf, but he can at least make the fight not a joke. Reading through, it seems like Arthur already has training and offense pretty well covered. I think if Renegade wanted to upgrade him, the most useful thing would be to give him some armor that is as good as his magical trident.
Given how advanced Atlantis is, Grayven would probably be better off using them as an industrial centre.
 
You know, I looked up the DCEU Aquaman's wiki page to see how good he actually is in a fight. I had seen the movies, but there's a lot of stuff I didn't remember well and it was convenient to have it all in one place. The answer is... quite good, actually! Possibly the version of Aquaman that's the toughest combatant we've seen in any universe.

No, that's pretty much par for the course, except for the hydrokinesis which he didn't get until after Flashpoint.

In the comics he has the physical power to go toe to toe with Kryptonian level threats and has enough telepathy to defeat Martians and power ring bearers.
 
No, that's pretty much par for the course, except for the hydrokinesis which he didn't get until after Flashpoint.

In the comics he has the physical power to go toe to toe with Kryptonian level threats and has enough telepathy to defeat Martians and power ring bearers.

Sadly, he doesn't get much recognition and is usually mocked as the guy that just talks to fish.

Though I am reminded of Throne of Atlantis Abridged where the Justice League, specifically Batman, were responsible for depicting him as a loser because they were worried that he'd outshine them all and make them look stupid.

The guy is almost as strong as Superman, has a magic trident that made the League its bitches, rules his own country, had a terrific rockstar on his side, has the voice of an angel, is incredibly nice and doesn't have any daddy issues.
 
Avatar: Legend of Azula (part 3) New
Third Year, Reign of Fire Lord Izumi, Midwinter

I frown as I consider the date. No, they don't do it like that anymore, do they? It should be '170 After Genocide', but that makes me quite uncomfortable. Planning a calendar after a brutal extermination campaign conducted by one still extant group against another? Even dating it from the start of the Great War has that problem, even if the phrasing would be a little more neutral.

I pull the oars again, while on the bench across from me Azula sniffs as she considers the map. And if I was more invested in the events of this world I might well sniff as well.

Firelord Zuko gave up every gain the Fire Nation made in the Great War, regardless of how long the region in question had been integrated into the Fire Nation, the ethnicity or disposition of the people living there and whether or not anyone living there wanted to go back to being ruled by whatever Earth Kingdom royal family used to rule them. An actual revolt in the oldest settlements resulted in one city and its surrounding rural region gaining theoretical independence as Republic City, but it only got actual independence after some sort of mass revolt by a non-bender paramilitary led to the council made up of appointees of the four nations being disbanded.

It beggars belief that the system lasted as long as it did.

Azula rolls the map up. "This isn't helping."

"Oh?"

"I thought that Zuzu might have grown into being Firelord."

"He made the decision to decolonise almost immediately after Aang defeated Ozai. There wasn't much time for him to gain more experience."

"Then he should have given the throne to Uncle Iroh." She reties the cord around the map and returns it to her satchel as we come up to the beach. "I don't think this is helping."

"On the contrary. I think this is exactly what you need."

She takes hold of the mooring rope and jumps, easily passing over the intervening patch of water and landing on the dark volcanic sand of the beach. I give the oars two more strokes before stowing them, then I stand up and jump into the knee-deep water besides the boat. The water feels entirely too warm for this latitude and time of year, which is the main reason that I wanted to come here once I heard about it.

Azula pulls on the rope and I push the hull, and between us we get the boat up past the high tide line before the guards reach us.

"Hey! You can't be here!"

Azula's eyes narrow immediately, but she calms herself a moment later. She's come a very long way in the last seventy years, but I must admit that I'm a little worried that reinstating the earlier context might cause her to relapse. Which is essentially why I suggested this journey: she is as well. That and the obvious.

The guards are wearing red and black leathers, and carry shields and cudgels rather than spears or swords. Armed for dealing with street criminals rather than a serious fight. It's rather nice that someone issued that order.

I smile broadly, walking past Azula to greet them. "Hello!"

The leader of the trio sighs. "Look, sir, this island is off-limits for as long as the volcano is acting up. It's for your own safety. So it's really best if you and your…" He considers Azula for a moment, presumably attempting to divine the nature of our relationship. "Girlfriend, try another island."

Azula takes another calming breath.

Azula has similar attitudes towards personal decay that I do, her eighty-five year old body looking perhaps half of that. She only started allowing her hair to grey in places when people assuming that she was a lot younger than her true age began to irritate her. I on the other hand have far more experience with looking like the old man I have allowed myself to become; a slightly more withered version of the face I wore when I first met her.

"Yes, that's why I'm here."

"Sir-."

"To commune with the spirit of the island and try to calm it." I point my right thumb at Azula. "She's my assistant, not… That. Hah! Not at my time of life."

"Oh! Ah, sorry, sir. Ma'am."

Azula makes a show of rolling her eyes and shaking her head, before turning away to pick up our bag from the boat.

"Ah, you're a Fire Sage?" The lead guard looks me over sceptically, no doubt noting my plain dress. "Lord Bao did send for one, but we weren't expecting a reply for a few weeks."

Radios, they have. Radios with good reception in isolated areas next to- I look up at the ash column. -powerful sources of electromagnetic interference, they don't have. And a traditionalist like Lord Bao would probably feel a little off about expecting the Fire Sages to respond to a radio call anyway.

"No, merely a humble wandering shaman. But I've been talking to spirits most of my life-" Certainly true by now. "-and I was closer."

The lead guard looks up at the volcano, sucking in air through his teeth.

The island is usually inhabited, but the villages have already been evacuated. The locals wouldn't be happy about having to rebuild from scratch, but they could do it and the Fire Nation is well accustomed to the idea that sometimes volcanoes erupt. The problem Lord Bao is more worried about are the neighbouring islands, where the falling ash and obscured sunlight is killing off the tourism from people trying to get away from the colder weather in other parts of the world, and the damage it will do to the next tourist season.

That actual problem is a good deal more serious, but he doesn't know that.

He doesn't want to let me up there. He has orders, and he knows how dangerous active volcanoes are and he doesn't want me to come to harm. But he also doesn't want to pass up on an opportunity to get this problem fixed. So 'we'll take you to our officer' in two, one-.

He turns back to me. "I'll take you to our Captain. He can decide if it's alright for you to go up the slope."

"Splendid!" Azula passes me my pack and I shrug it over my shoulders. "Lead the way."

The guard nods, then turns to his more slender compatriot. "Jin, take them back to base camp. Bo and me will keep watching the shore."

Jin nods with a smile, while Bo slumps slightly. "Aww…"

"You can do the next escort." The two of them start to walk off. "Seriously, you're getting paid to go to the beach, how do you..?"

"This way back to camp." Jin leads us in the opposite direction, towards the evacuated settlement. "So what's got the volcano spirit riled up? This island hasn't gone up for centuries."

"I don't know yet. Was the shrine at the peak in good repair?"

"I have no idea. Is that it?"

"Some spirits can be fairly sensitive about that sort of thing. Or traditional festivals being abandoned. Or made more touristy."

He winces. For the most part, spirits don't actually care much about how the humans who live near their holy places live. The issue is when there was some pact or other than requires that the humans do certain things at certain times, and then the humans forget about it. Most spirits do not handle that well, and just about everyone is raised on stories of why traditions are important...

And then the tourist money starts coming in, and that goes right out of the window.

"But I imagine that between us, we can sort this out. A quick refresh of the shrine, a few candles, a little chanting…" I smile reassuringly, while Azula remains po-faced. "We should be able to calm things down within a day."

Within A Day

And I didn't do any of those things. But things are a good deal calmer now nonetheless.
 
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Third Year, Reign of Fire Lord Izumi, Midwinter
I've been waiting for this since you first said what Paul and Azula would do here.

"But I imagine that between us, we can sort this out. A quick refresh of the shine, a few candle, a little chanting…" I smile reassuringly, while Azula remains po-faced. "We should be able to calm things down within a day."

Within A Day

And I didn't do any of those things. But things are a good deal calmer now nonetheless.
I'm honestly a little disappointed that this is just a set up chapter more than anything else, but I still enjoyed it. I also wish we got to see what Paul did with the volcano spirit.
 
Mr Zoat, that comment about Azula not being his girlfriend has me wondering if Paul has decided to be celibate due to his longevity. Was he able to find a similarly long lived life partner the way the Renegade did with Luna?
 
Thank you, corrected.
Mr Zoat, that comment about Azula not being his girlfriend has me wondering if Paul has decided to be celibate due to his longevity.
Dating patients is a no-no for therapists.
Was he able to find a similarly long lived life partner the way the Renegade did with Luna?
I haven't decided.
So, this is part 3, but I can't find parts 1 and 2. Did I miss something, or are they just in another place?
First Year, Reign of Fire Lord Zuko, Mid afternoon
Avatar: Legend of Azula (part 1)
First Year, Reign of Fire Lord Zuko, Morning the following day
Avatar: Legend of Azula (part 2)
 
Third Year, Reign of Fire Lord Izumi, Midwinter

I frown as I consider the date. No, they don't do it like that anymore, do they? It should be '170 After Genocide', but that makes me quite uncomfortable. Planning a calendar after a brutal extermination campaign conducted by one still extant group against another? Even dating it from the start of the Great War has that problem, even if the phrasing would be a little more neutral.

I pull the oars again, while to the bench across from me Azula sniffs as she considers the map. And if I was more invested in the events of this world I might well sniff as well.
Oh-ho, a return to the world of 'Avatar', with Orange Lantern Azula in tow? (First part here, with second below it.) I'm guessing this is sometime just before the beginning of 'Legend of Korra'. Which makes me wonder what sort of butterflies could be set in motion with two near-deity heroes poking around.

Firelord Zuko gave up every gain the Fire Nation made in the Great War, regardless of how long the region in question had been integrated into the Fire Nation, the ethnicity or disposition of the people living there and whether or not anyone living there wanted to go back to being ruled by whatever Earth Kingdom royal family used to rule them. An actual revolt in the oldest settlements resulted in one city and its surrounding rural region gaining theoretical independence as Republic City, but it only got actual independence after some sort of mass revolt by a non-bender paramilitary led to the council made up of appointees of the four nations being disbanded.
As depicted in a sequel comic series. One that made a lot of fans annoyed by the events and character relationships laid out.

It beggars belief that the system lasted as long as it did.

Azula rolls the map up. "This isn't helping."
To be fair, the old 'Elemental nation' system was a bit loose anyway. While they largely stuck to their own territory, there were travellers.

"Oh?"

"I thought that Zuzu might have grown into being Firelord."
Well, he's still kicking around, isn't he? Why not track him down and ask him about it? :p

"He made the decision to decolonise almost immediately after Aang defeated Ozai. There wasn't much time for him to gain more experience."

"Then he should have given the throne to Uncle Iroh." She reties the cord around the map and returns it to her satchel as we come up to the beach. "I don't think this is helping."
I have the feeling Iroh didn't want the throne. Even if Zuko had offered it to him, he'd have begged off with 'I'm too old for a crown. The world needs youth now.'

"On the contrary. I think this is exactly what you need."

She takes hold of the mooring rope and jumps, easily passing over the intervening patch of water and landing on the dark volcanic sand of the beach. I give the oars two more strokes before stowing them, then I stand up and jump into the knee-deep water besides the boat. The water feels entirely too warm for this latitude and time of year, which is the main reason that I wanted to come here once I heard about it.
Hmm... Not using their Rings openly. Presumably OL learned his lesson about throwing around his Light in unfamiliar worlds after the incident with the realm from Gate.

Azula pulls on the rope and I push the hull, and between us we get the boat up past the high tide line before the guards reach us.

"Hey! You can't be here!"
Tough luck, they are now. And you aren't going to be getting them to leave. :p

Azula's eyes narrow immediately, but she calms herself a moment later. She's come a very long way in the last seventy years, but I must admit that I'm a little worried that reinstating the earlier context might cause her to relapse. Which is essentially why she suggested this journey: she is as well. That and the obvious.

The guards red and black leathers, and carry shields and cudgels rather than spears or swords. Armed for dealing with street criminals rather than a serious fight. It's rather nice that someone issued that order.
Though they're probably firebenders, which gives them a decent amount of ability to punch above their weight class.

I smile broadly, walking past Azula to greet them. "Hello!"

The leader of the trio sighs. "Look, sir, this island is off-limits for as long as the volcano is acting up. It's for your own safety. So it's really best if you and your…" He considers Azula for a moment, presumably attempting to divine the nature of our relationship. "Girlfriend, try another island."

Azula takes another claming breath.
Heh. I suppose there was a time he'd already be knocked on his ass before he finished speaking. She has improved.

Azula has similar attitudes towards personal decay that I do, her eighty-five year old body looking perhaps a third of that. She only started allowing her hair to grey in places when people assuming that she was a lot younger than her true age began to irritate her. I on the other hand have far more experience with looking like an old man I have allowed myself to become; a slightly more withered version of the face I wore when I first met her.
But not too old, in her case. After all, old men look wise, old women look... Well, it takes a certain character to look grandmotherly, rather than witchy.

"Yes, that's why I'm here."

"Sir-."
If he was free to use his Ring, he'd probably already be probing the volcano's geology, looking for blockages and options for safe release of pressure.

"To commune with the spirit of the island and try to calm it." I point my right thumb at Azula. "She's my assistant, not… That. Hah! Not at my time of life."

"Oh! Ah, sorry, sir. Ma'am."
Interesting. OL's given up the desire for long-term companionship, or has he got someone waiting back in Earth Sixteen...

Azula makes a show of rolling her eyes and shaking her head, before turning away to pick up our bag from the boat.

"Ah, you're a Fire Sage?" The lead guard looks me over sceptically, no doubt noting my plain dress. "Lord Bao did send for one, but we weren't expecting a reply for a few weeks."
Ah, the joy of a world barely growing past Industrial Revolution levels of communications.

Radios, they have. Radios with good reception in isolated areas next to- I look up at the ash column. -powerful sources of electromagnetic interference, they don't have. And a traditionalist like Lord Bao would probably feel a little off about expecting the Fire Sages to respond to a radio call anyway.
No doubt a little wary of this newfangled 'wireless' stuff. :p Give him a good fast steamship any day.

"No, merely a humble wandering shaman. But I've been talking to spirits most of my life-" Certainly true by now. "-and I was closer."

The lead guard looks up at the volcano, sucking in air through his teeth.
Heck, he's even been one, a few times. Wonder what the local spirits make of him?

The island is usually inhabited, but the villages have already been evacuated. The locals wouldn't be happy about having to rebuild from scratch, but they could do it and the Fire Nation is well accustomed to the idea that sometimes volcanoes erupt. The problem Lord Bao is more worried about are the neighbouring islands, where the falling ash and obscured sunlight is killing off the tourism from people trying to get away from the colder weather in other parts of the world, and the damage it will do to the next tourist season.
Not illogical. A nasty volcanic eruption can change weather patterns globally. Especially if there's a spirit involved.

That actual problem is a good deal more serious, but he doesn't know that.

He doesn't want to let me up there. He has orders, and he knows how dangerous active volcanoes are and he doesn't want me to come to harm. But he also doesn't want to pass up on an opportunity to get this problem fixed. So 'we'll take you to our officer' in two, one-.
Impressive, reading his desires without any effort. OL certainly has come a long way in, what, a millennium or so?

He turns back to me. "I'll take you to our Captain. He can decide if it's alright for you to go up the slope."

"Splendid!" Azula passes me my pack and I shrug it over my shoulders. "Lead the way."
Pity two glowing orange people would probably get some attention, or they could have snuck about.

The guard nods, then turns to his more slender compatriot. "Jin, take them back to base camp. Bo and me will keep watching the shore."

Jin nods with a smile, while Bo slumps slightly. "Aww…"
Well, someone was hoping for an easy job, I see.

"You can do the next escort." The two of them start to walk off. "Seriously, you're getting paid to go to the beach, how do you..?"

"This way back to camp." Jin leads us in the opposite direction, towards the evacuated settlement. "So what's got the volcano spirit riled up? This island hasn't gone up for centuries."
Beach isn't any fun without the pretty folks to look at.

"I don't know yet. Was the shrine at the peak in good repair?"

"I have no idea. Is that it?"
If it's anything like Exalted, it might well be. Kami not given their arranged due can result in trouble in Creation...

"Some spirits can be fairly sensitive about that sort of thing. Or traditional festivals being abandoned. Or made more touristy."

He winces. For the most part, spirits don't actually care much about how the humans who live near their holy places live. The issue is when there was some pact or other than requires that the humans do certain things at certain times, and then the humans forget about it. Most spirits do not handle that well, and just about everyone is raised on stories of why traditions are important...
Of course, traditions can get disrupted by thing like, say, a century-long war and its cultural fallout. Makes me wonder how many Air Nomad-adjacent spirits got narked off by their genocide.

And then the tourist money starts coming in, and that goes right out of the window.

"But I imagine that between us, we can sort this out. A quick refresh of the shine, a few candles, a little chanting…" I smile reassuringly, while Azula remains po-faced. "We should be able to calm things down within a day."
And, if it comes down to it, punching an angry mountain kami in the face (or equivalent) until they decide to play nice. :cool:

Within A Day

And I didn't do any of those things. But things are a good deal calmer now nonetheless.
Better than 'The mountain was on fire, and it totally wasn't my fault...'

Well, this is a bit of a trip down memory lane. About one hundred episodes (and about 7 real years) to get a follow up on one of the more interesting future Orange Lantern recruits from alternate universes. Wonder if we'll see any other future OL segments revisited in future. Meanwhile, giving Azula a chance to visit home and see what's changed in seventy-odd years will be fun to watch.


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I pull the oars again, while to the bench across from me...
I pull the oars again, while on the bench across from me...
The guards red and black leathers...
The guards wear red and black leathers...
Azula takes another claming breath.
Azula takes another calming breath.
...experience with looking like an old man I have allowed myself to become...
...experience with looking like the old man I have allowed myself to become...
A quick refresh of the shine...
A quick refresh of the shrine...
 

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