Amelia, Worm AU [Complete]

No idea what this means.

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So my two cents on what kicked Scion off: Edward Norton died, still in obscurity as pan-dimensional organizations tried to figure out how to stop Scion from starting the Apocalypse.

 

You have a Seed AI that has a power that lets it understand tinker tech. With your power tinker OC, you have a tinker that works on powers. With Colin, you have a canonical tinker that was able to build tech that mimics powers after sufficiently studying another parahuman. At some point, that Seed AI will be able to upgrade its own bog standard technology using that whole... recursive self improvement thing that makes it a Seed AI into something that exceeds the abilities of the shards themselves.

I'll grant that within the timeframe of the story, Dragon wouldn't be able to improve herself enough to be a threat to Scion, but left alone, a Seed AI, especially a Seed AI with the leg up that Dragon has, could and would become a threat to an Entity. And to all the Entities if given even more time... Especially given that she already has access to a technology that solves any energy crisis that the Entities would run into.

 

Hmm. But they're not, presumably?

Also, newlines.

As I understand it, Entities evolved from normal, three dimensional creatures. So the idea that a Seed AI could threaten them doesn't seem unreasonable. If nothing else it could spam copies of itself until they can disrupt the Cycle on every planet the Entities are active on.

Doesn't she still look like a child?

 

There's no way in hell that Eidolon doesn't have a power that could "alleviate" such a problem.

Or if not, he could lie back and think of England.

 

So no honeymoon or other light-hearted transitional chapter.

Instead, we jump back into the story with things about to hit the fan, as Scion's about to flip his shit early and the multiverse stands on the brink or Armageddon.

Good luck Amelia, Taylor, & everyone else (you're going to need it.) Hope that when it's over, you're still there when the smoke clears.

 

He is the High Priest, after all.

*badum-tish*

 

She's been shown to have aged herself up at least once already.

Same one from canon?

 

I do not recall this.

What? Four chapters of wedding fluff (that were a pain in the dicknozzle to plan, thank you very much) INCLUDING the honeymoon wasn't enough for you?

 

They want to run through a couple more times before you knock down this house of cards.

 

You'll have to write a fanfic based on my fanfic for that.

http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/too-many-alternates-worm-fanfiction-crossover.334618/

This guy's doing fun things.

 

It really depends on the timeframe. Given enough time, there is no reason to think that an unchained Seed AI couldn't accomplish everything the Entities have done and then some, especially with all of the advantages Dragon has as demonstrated below.

Just so. I doubt Dragon has had enough time to upgrade enough to solo things, but she can make a huge difference.

All this discussion really makes me want to do an Exsurgent!Dragon story...

 

Do it.

The only problem with that kind of problem is that after a certain point, most issues become trivial. You could either focus on the very beginning, where infrastructure is only just getting put in place, or focus on problems so big as to alienate the human point of view.

Although a Dragon vs Entities via a proxy war could be cool. You'd need a contrived reason why there are proxies, though, since anything a proxy could do, a copy of Dragon could do, better.

 

Maybe primacy isn't removable without removing her ability to understand tinker tech and power interactions she hasn't yet deduced back down to first principles. That and the fact that most tinker tech uses bullshit higher dimensional/quantum effects that dragon hasn't and won't figure out until she generates a unified field theory forces her to send elements that won't be thwarted by primacy (i.e. damaged Eden shards and humans) against Scion

 

As far as I know, the idea of primacy is something that is introduced in this fic, and is only valid to anything based off Amelia. I assumed that MGS was talking about doing an unrelated fic...

Even in an Amelia based fic, unshackling Dragon earlier in the narrative, after she's gotten access to interdimensional tech still gives her anywhere from two to ten years to ramp up. I think a Seed AI with tinkertech understanding would be more than capable of working down to first principles and then working back up to Shard Crushing levels. The only way to make it a fair fight is to assume that the unshackling happened relatively close to the wedding, and write the divergent fic from there. Personally, I wouldn't be interested in that story, because it'd be functionally identical to Amelia in a lot of ways.

 

Dragon was unshackled well before the wedding.

 

So she's had a year of recursive self improvement with the access to the resources of countless uninhabited Earths and running multiple copies of herself, each capable of analyzing tinker tech at god only knows how many times faster than human thought, and she's not a viable threat to Scion unto herself?

 

Goddamn, lots of shit in this update. I shall ignore most of it except to d'awww at Libecca and Glaidolon!

This sort of implies she deliberately tried to drive them to suicide. Taken as just failing them, we've got Taylor's Butchering, Taylor getting EB'd, and having to ditch Pantheon? Or maybe one of those is her pre-pantheon failure to keep her out of villainy instead of using her?

 

Self recursive isn't exponential improvement. It's linear and it has a plateau. She's still beholden to the laws of physics. Or, at least, more beholden to them than Entities are.

And Entities are functionally ALREADY self recursive AI that have had countless cycles to improve themselves. They're not creative, but that doesn't mean they're not proactive. And if they thought AI tech was useful for improving themselves, they'd have used it when they got it. So either they started better than an AI can be. Or they upgraded themselves to the best an AI can be in a previous cycle.

Either way, no. Not without a complete supply of Entity!Knowledge in its uncensored form. With that, then maybe.

 

This sounds like a dinosaur with glaives tied to its head. I approve whole-heartedly.

 

Disagree, but it's your fic and I'm not about to argue the premise with the author, especially not so close to the endgame.

 

Also, everyone remember that it was WOG'ed that Dragon could not be a threat to Scion due to Eden messing with the shard that makes ai.

 

Sorry but this just isn't happening. Entities are bullshit OP. Essentially Scion at even a fraction of his full power can do a very good impression of God. Clairvoyant exists so it seems reasonable to assume that Scion has a similar ability. So Scion is omniscient and can attack across dimensions and ranges that make everything trivial. Essentially if Scion actually wanted to win he could simply use his clairvoyant ability to see everything a thinker ability like Number mans to choose his targets and then obliterate everyone that is fighting him instantly. I want to believe that heroes can beat their foe properly in a glorious battle but this is a situation where it just isn't an option. Scion is not an enemy that can be overcome with force.

 

I have to admit to spending the last half an hour trying to come up with characters from other series who could manage to fight Scion. Zelretch from Type-Moon and Simon from Gurren Lagann are the only ones I'd say could do it, and even that's only because they'd be able to pursue him through alternate dimensions.

 

Simon from Gurren Lagann wouldn't even need to fight them. They'd just show up and offer to be nice for access to infinite goddamn energy.

[ASSIST]
[EVOLVE]
[SOLUTION]
[WORSHIP]

 

I was talking about writing a story where Dragon gets unchained, maybe even fairly early on, starts exponentially expanding her capabilities in a hard takeoff singularity and encounters the Exsurgent Virus from Eclipse Phase.

Then everybody loses.

So... Not a Seed AI the way I thought she was then. Fair enough.

These people don't deserve to become The Culture anyway.

 

I had never thought that Scion might find a way to remake her, and even worse, use the PtV to do so. That is probably the worst possible outcome. Not only will any dialogue not work, but that means they can't bully him to death either. This may actually be the battle for the ages.
So Glassaig may be dead, which means Eidolon is gonna go nuclear. Now is the time for all horrific shard based weaponry to come to the aid of their hosts.

 

Hold up.

Yup. Checks out.

Yay, Glaidolon WAFF.

I guess there's some kind of big thing going on, too?

 

Exsurgant virus vs. Dragon with no Prometheans? Yes everybody looses, well except for the Xenos driving the Fermi paradox, they won.

Edit to prevent double posting.

Oh Shit.