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Censorship by Payment Processors

The_Fenestrated said:
They just clamped down on subscribestar...
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To further elaborate on the situation...

X said:
BREAKING NEWS:
SubscribeStar just changed their TOS making them as restricitve as Patreon.
Things that can't be on SubscribeStar now (in fictional media):
-Incest
-Rape
-Some types of furries
-Gore

They added a big section about compliance with payment processors, so we know who's behind it... again...

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source: https://x.com/incontinentcell/status/2031542875096309998
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Otokonoko Culture said:
Characters that are canonically underaged are treated as violating the policy regardless of an 18+ disclaimer, being aged up, or being AU'd to be over 18.
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I get what you said, It's just unhinged.

and how do you even handle characters that are underaged for some of a series, but become adults.
 
The_Fenestrated said:
how do you even handle characters that are underaged for some of a series, but become adults
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Obviously theyre always underage. Sure your doujin of Sakura Haruno at age 40 in her Boruto design might look like an adult, but because a depiction of her at 11 canonically exists, tough luck friend.
 
I don't think anyone is really going to go to war over the right to make smutty adaptations of underaged waifus, and that's the point. It's just a new way to kick people in the face, knowing you're not going to do anything about it, because you can't, you don't have the numbers, or access to any levers of power. The best you can do is just try to disconnect from that system as much as possible, so you are at least not feeding the beast.

15 ​And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 ​And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 ​And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 ​Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

*This is where Iron Maiden starts rocking out*
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Sol Mark-1 said:
VISA, and Mastercard CEO can't die soon enough. Fucking shitheads.
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It cant be them, dontcha know, they investigated and there was no direction from the executive office to do this, dontcha know. And if its not coming from the executive office theres no accountability for it. :)
 
seeing_octarine said:
I think there are plenty of people who very much would go to war over that. They just don't have the opportunity.
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That's what I said. The people who would want to go to war over it don't have the numbers or access to levers of power. If one of them tried something, he would just be laughed at as some wacko terrorist. If a group of them coordinated together and started something, they'd be crushed, and then that would be used as a reason to crack down harder on everyone else who didn't do anything wrong. So these people are just going to curl up and take their beatings until the eye of Sauron finds something else to dwell on.
 
Sol Mark-1 said:
VISA, and Mastercard CEO can't die soon enough. Fucking shitheads.
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Die? Naaah, what they really deserve is so many rival businesses, they are forced to lower their so-called standards while firing everyone in their ranks (mostly HR department personel, weird that) that protests this course of action to remain competitive in the face of their precious monopol dissolving faster than a snowball on the surface of the sun.
 
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So what are the best ways right now to avoid giving more money to the wretched hive of criminals and assholes that call themselves Visa, Mastercard, Paypal, and so forth? Using cash for anything in-person is easy enough, but online seems... difficult. Even when you have a choice it's hard to tell who has fingers in who behind the scenes.
 
Otokonoko Culture said:
Obviously theyre always underage. Sure your doujin of Sakura Haruno at age 40 in her Boruto design might look like an adult, but because a depiction of her at 11 canonically exists, tough luck friend.
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These people who can't see the difference between reality, fiction, an 11 year old and a 40 year old need to be on some kind of watchlist.
 
seeing_octarine said:
So what are the best ways right now to avoid giving more money to the wretched hive of criminals and assholes that call themselves Visa, Mastercard, Paypal, and so forth? Using cash for anything in-person is easy enough, but online seems... difficult. Even when you have a choice it's hard to tell who has fingers in who behind the scenes.
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Depends on where you live. Here in Poland for in-country online payments purchases its easy to use alternatives, there are several services that will allow you to buy stuff through them, and just about every bank has their own widely accepted method of online transfers. There's no problem with, say, recharging your Steam Wallet this way also. Or use the payment app on your mobile (even the podunk grocery store near me accepts those now).

For more involved things like international orders I'm afraid we are shit out of luck. Most stores accept only the major globally-accepted payment methods like Visa or Paypal and leave it at that. Some may offer some alternative payment methods, but it really depends on the store, you'd need to read into their FAQ's or contact them directly on a case-to-case basis.
 
I'm reminded of when I tried to pay an artist in North Macedonia for a commission. Our banks apparently do not communicate at all, no PayPal, no nothing. We used a Russian payment processor for the first one and got charged a 12.5% fee, then wound up using crypto transfers that cost me an extra $60 to get my taxes filed. I feel bad I haven't commissioned them since since they don't seem to get much business, but it's so annoying getting them paid.
 
I just want my damn fictional porn! Like, I'm weird in that I don't care for 'real' porn due to how ethically messed up it can be.

There is always a layer of 'are these actors actually consenting or is the some degree coercion.'

And I was always worried about the actors safety and if they were being compensated properly.

Just… too much room for abuse so I stuck with the medium where consent was baked in.

If these payment processors and puritans cared so much… why not help put systems in place to allow ethical and safe creation of porn? Or lobby for social programs to provide education and opportunities to allow the adult actors to change careers?

Just stop messing with my tentacles and my futas!
 
Rivan9000 said:
I just want my damn fictional porn! Like, I'm weird in that I don't care for 'real' porn due to how ethically messed up it can be.

There is always a layer of 'are these actors actually consenting or is the some degree coercion.'

And I was always worried about the actors safety and if they were being compensated properly.

Just… too much room for abuse so I stuck with the medium where consent was baked in.

If these payment processors and puritans cared so much… why not help put systems in place to allow ethical and safe creation of porn? Or lobby for social programs to provide education and opportunities to allow the adult actors to change careers?

Just stop messing with my tentacles and my futas!
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They don't care about real ethical issues they care that "sex is icky"
 
seeing_octarine said:
That would be a clear cut case of monopoly abuse, y'know.
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Yeah, but unfortunately monopolies and pseudomonopolies don't really get punished, otherwise Apple/Microsoft would have been taken out behind a shed years ago. It's just infinitely more convenient for governments to be able to plan around a mostly stable market where they can reliably work with only 2-3 major actors in the industry tops so they're massively incentivized to allow it so long as they don't rock the boat, make the appropriate offerings, and at least create a fig-leaf of not being a iron grip on the market.
 
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