Is anti LGBTQ+ allowed here? Rule 9 violation

[OceanN]

My thread is about these posts:
Post in thread 'Systematic Shinobi (Naruto Gamer Insert)' https://forum.questionablequesting....inobi-naruto-gamer-insert.18222/post-11079069

In this thread the OP and other users used slurs and hate speech against LGBTQ+ people.
I know that in the context of stories, quests, and games it is allowed because of Rule 9. But repeating them yourself outside of the story against others crosses a line for me.

If the OP left the matter alone about this, it would have been fine. But instead kept saying things like this: https://forum.questionablequesting....inobi-naruto-gamer-insert.18222/post-11072656

and similar stuff in different posts. This is clear hate against the entire trans community.
There are also other instances of homophobia like saying "keep that faggy shit out of my threads".

OP didn't just use a slur and hateful rhetorik in their story. They repeated it outside of it with and with more hateful rhetoric.

Many LGBTQ+ people experience hate in real life and other online spaces. I thought that QQ would be different, since there are LGBTQ+ stories here too and because Rule 9 states:"Using them to refer to RL groups of people is also forbidden on the grounds that at least one of our users will be a part of just about any group, making it a Rule 1 violation."

The moderator just banned everyone for a week and moved on. The author got a slap on the wrist and nothing more. This tells me that hate speech is allowed here.

I am disappointed. I really like QQ and don't want to leave, but after this, I don't feel welcome here.

Is this a Rule 9 violation?

 

[ThedudeManBro]

Haaaah, classic Jordinio. Man has Toxically insecure masculinity down to a Tate.

Happily enough and by my experience, people like him and his Jordlings are rare to be bothered, and are mostly stuck in their own bubble... Mostly because when ppl like that slip out they get banned in other threads.

You don't need to feel threatened or unwelcome here friend, they are the minority Best to put him on ignore and you'll find that a huge chunk of toxic anti-lgbt will magically... Disappear.

 

[BoredKing98]

My thread is about these posts:
Post in thread 'Systematic Shinobi (Naruto Gamer Insert)' https://forum.questionablequesting....inobi-naruto-gamer-insert.18222/post-11079069

In this thread the OP and other users used slurs and hate speech against LGBTQ+ people.
I know that in the context of stories, quests, and games it is allowed because of Rule 9. But repeating them yourself outside of the story against others crosses a line for me.

If the OP left the matter alone about this, it would have been fine. But instead kept saying things like this: https://forum.questionablequesting....inobi-naruto-gamer-insert.18222/post-11072656

and similar stuff in different posts. This is clear hate against the entire trans community.
There are also other instances of homophobia like saying "keep that faggy shit out of my threads".

OP didn't just use a slur and hateful rhetorik in their story. They repeated it outside of it with and with more hateful rhetoric.

Many LGBTQ+ people experience hate in real life and other online spaces. I thought that QQ would be different, since there are LGBTQ+ stories here too and because Rule 9 states:"Using them to refer to RL groups of people is also forbidden on the grounds that at least one of our users will be a part of just about any group, making it a Rule 1 violation."

The moderator just banned everyone for a week and moved on. The author got a slap on the wrist and nothing more. This tells me that hate speech is allowed here.

I am disappointed. I really like QQ and don't want to leave, but after this, I don't feel welcome here.

Is this a Rule 9 violation?

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Seriously? Look, like every single person on here, Ao3, Spacebattles, etc. says "If you don't like it then don't read it." Jordino has his views and it's his thread and story, you don't have to engage with him. Stop trying to get someone in trouble just because you don't like their views.

 

[Vanbers]

Is this a Rule 9 violation?

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No, it's a difference in political opinion by someone who, while absolutely caustic, does not share your political beliefs. Not everyone is going to believe what you do, especially in regards to things as divisive as identity politics, which is partially why things like Rule 8 exist.

What you should do is just put him on ignore and move on with your life.

What you shouldn't do is make a thread not-so-subtly accusing the mods of being bigots because one person out of the swathe of bans on both sides of the issue from that thread didn't get punished 'enough' for you while effectively demanding they make a stand and take a hard political stance 'or else'. Which is what your 'oh I don't feel safe here because you're not punishing him hard enough I'd sure hate to leave hint hint' thing feels like.

Honestly, at most this seems like a thing that could have been an appeal. Rather than a big dramatic post calling out the mods.

 

[Aureus]

The problem in that thread was people making personal attacks on other users, ignoring mod warnings and the topic being relevant to modern politics. The forum itself does not care for advocating a political stance, since QQ is for porn.

 

[0Jordinio0]

Thanks for the chuckle.

 

[1eyed1]

This feels like standard crybullying.

 

[Savinkov]

The guy been here since 2021 and has only 6 posts on this forum. 4 of the 6 are on jordinio's story.

 

[Dabronyakumadznts]

Thanks for the chuckle.

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Hey it's the star of the show

Anyways
Just ignore the guy
Though for me I don't do that cause for me locking my mind to those who challenge my worldview is detrimental
Even those ideas in the extremes
There still knowledge in there

About LGBTQ
I don't mind them
But i like to just gloss over them
It's just not to my taste (menxmen) (especially furry!menxfurry!men)
Yuri is a go!!!
I'll admit and I abhor gays If they are gaying in my LOS
But I know for a fact gays can throw a punch
Even if they're gays they are still have that ability to throw hands

 

[Bogsmi]

I mean... grow the fuck up is what Id say... there is a lot of stuff I also don't enjoy, but like trying to make others get in trouble for others cause you didn't feel comfortable with something personally? Totally idiotic.

Just stop reading if you don't like it, and don't interact! Oh and none of that 'I like his works so I wanna be comfortable bullshit', since no one cares about that and they shouldn't. There is no responsibility on the author to carter to your likes and dislikes.

Also just to note, in fictional works you see slavery, rape, killings and what not nearly every single time, and you have no complain at all, but when somebody says a 'bad word' that's hateful and not ok? Wtf, get a life!

Finally I also saw the initial argument, and you provoked Jord to repeat that stuff out of the story cause you couldn't disengage and just stop, so don't pretend to be a victim since it just feels like you're an entitled jerk that thinks everything should carter to his tastes.

 

[maidenoforleones]

Uhhh, may god save this site from becoming SB/SV. Anyway slurs only have as much power as you give them, if you dislike the word "fag" just ignore Jord.

 

[Idkusername]

As I understand it, Rule 8 was implemented ostensibly because QQ does not have the staff to handle the reports that would have been generated otherwise. As a natural consequence of no-politics rules, marginalised people are often the ones who get the shorter end of the stick because micro-aggressions aren't visibly rule-breaking enough to be flagged and the people defending themselves tend to get hit, and in the case of QQ in particular the mods have to rely on Rule 1 (personal attacks) to deal with such matters. Being polite is not the same as being nice.

Speaking of your topic specifically, while I do agree that he said some while stuff and should have been hit with a thread-ban irregardless of whether he was the OP or not, making an appeal or contacting a mod would be a better way to do it, or wading into High Noon if you've got thick enough skin for it.

QQ might not allow hostile language or the like, but you're right that it's not a safe space either.

 

[Megaolix]

With a thread title like that, there is no way this is going anywhere good. Locked.

@OceanN
If you wanted to protest a mod action, that is what appeal is for. But expect more from us later for what you did.