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Kariya Kwest [Fate/Zero]

Discussion in 'Questing' started by Biigoh, Feb 26, 2013.

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  1. Aranfan

    Aranfan Not too sore, are you?

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    I'm pretty sure "push Iri back in" is losing now.
     
  2. Jiven

    Jiven Most Excellent Lurker

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    What is the tally ? I think I didn't vote.
     
  3. Biigoh

    Biigoh Nothing but Innocent Fluff Moderator

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  4. Jiven

    Jiven Most Excellent Lurker

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    There.


    [X] "For he who fights and runs away
    May live to fight another day;
    But he who is in battle slain
    Can never rise and fight again."

    "Go Saber. Take your Master. Think on what has transpired here tonight, and we will speak once again."
     
  5. minuseven

    minuseven Samsara

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    I knew it.
     
  6. Chibi-Reaper

    Chibi-Reaper D-Donations plz?

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    [X] Time and place, do whatever doesn't set you up as fighting everyone off all at once.

    Honestly I give no shits about Saber Alter. Get her, fine. Don't? Fine. All I wanted was to gank Kerry 'accidentally'.

    Making a note here: Huge success, hard to overstate and all that. Retreat or just letting Iri retreat or whatever is all equally fine.
     
  7. Biigoh

    Biigoh Nothing but Innocent Fluff Moderator

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    Tally update

     
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  8. Scope

    Scope Versed in the lewd.

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    We all know what is going to win. So...

    [X] Plan Biigoh.
     
  9. Biigoh

    Biigoh Nothing but Innocent Fluff Moderator

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    !!!!

    You monster.
     
  10. Fallenblades643

    Fallenblades643 Canned food pls?

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    [X] Plan Biigoh.

    [X]Fishie plan!

    A plan! I don't know!

    [X]Fucking cheese it!
     
  11. iamnuff

    iamnuff Connoisseur.

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    rider could blow up our base?

    could not most other servants do the same?

    Saber is probably too badly wounded to excaliblast right now, but she could probably level our base in a single strike.

    gil definitively could, but he's probably gonna die now.

    I didn't know all these guys knew where we were staying though. i guess it makes sense, we do come from a well-known magus line.

    [X] Focus on killing Gil, if saber and Iri get away, then so be it.

    As long as lancer remains alive then Saber's wounds won't heal, so Team Saber is probably not a huge threat. that said, if we leave them alone too long, they will fuck us up.

    we gave them both ample reason to hate our guts, we need to follow through. Capture or kill, if not now, then soon.
     
  12. Cherry Lover

    Cherry Lover Experienced.

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    Right, so why the hell are we ensuring everyone survives in order to ally against us...?

    "Helped them" by letting Iri go from captivity we put her in? After killing Kiritsugu?

    All we're doing by letting Iri go is making a rod for our own backs. She knows how dangerous Saver is and she has no desire to ally with us after we killed her husband.
     
  13. Vindictus

    Vindictus Experienced.

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    [Sigh]

    We can let Irisvel dig her own grave. Juggling the villain ball serves no purpose beyond getting us ganked for being an asshole, when we could have manipulated our target into filling that role instead.
     
  14. Larekko12

    Larekko12 Connoisseur.

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    Mike!

    Listen to these words!


    WE WERE JUSTIFIED.

    In the Killing of the rotten assassin to do away with the unfair assets in this war that we did not know was a master we were justified in taking out the trash in Riders, Gils, Kayneth's eyes.

    Further we proved ourselves honorable by interdicting to allow the Einzbern to make up for their mistake. We gave them a Mercy.

    Our servant then proceeded to eat Iri, Saber preceeded to get her but kicked due to old injuries and murder hax and now we have choice to continue our act, LET Saber be beaten, or Sabotage and coopt them all the more.

    The latter is dishonorable. It's kidnapping another master and pushing her back into hell after you've killed her husband.

    Stealing Saber is Kill stealing and backstabbing and stealing a servant cause you can do something with them. And dishonorable.

    Lying to Saber to distract her, pushing Iri back into your Servant when you can see her? it is hypocritical to how you have portayed ourselves.

    Letting them go however leaves them tanked to come back on Iri's vendetta for a loss she acquired for being underhanded. It would ultimately stay between us

    Iskander wouldn't break up an alliance when all we've done is get rid of a craven assassin and rescue her.

    Kayneth won't move for our familiars and said alliance. Gil won't get the break he needs to kill Saver, and he could stil do it with a break even with the kill command if Rider decides to go fuck you.


    No one has any overarching blocks to form around any more than are already made and we get a king and the chance fo kill another.

    Oh and we helped them when we allowed her to bind Saber in the first place. As well as 'protected' her from Gil's barrage.


    Of course Iri's gonna sick saber on us later. Saber If fucking ruined right now. And Rider would interdict on our behalf if she strikes first.
     
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  15. Lilithium

    Lilithium born in 1900

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    I knew that killing Kerry would bite us in the ass.
     
  16. Vindictus

    Vindictus Experienced.

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    Leaving hm alive would have been worse, I'm sure.
     
  17. Chibi-Reaper

    Chibi-Reaper D-Donations plz?

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    If he was alive, I don't doubt we would wake up one day to find our mansion burning down around us and an RPG round two inches from our left eye.

    We might or might not be able to survive that by transforming into worms and escaping into the sewers or something, dunno, but I don't want to.
     
  18. Larekko12

    Larekko12 Connoisseur.

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    If he was alive we could have gotten his name or seen him on somebody that's not us and then stole him.

    We could have done that by making others targets by blowing the assassin plan.
    Hell seeing him rip apart the Hyatt would give our not disconnected from mortal vewi the time to Comprehensively ward our shit, our leylines, and our tunnels.

    And do we even need to sleep anymore?
     
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  19. GoC

    GoC Know what you're doing yet?

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    Saving Sabre was massively counter-productive and completely screwed you guys over.
    Just because you like a character doesn't mean it's a good idea to be nice to them.
     
  20. Liam-don

    Liam-don Fondly Regard Creation.

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    Isn't Saver's whole backstory about how she singlehandedly defeated the entire Counter Force? One or two (or Six) Servants shouldn't be much of a challenge to her.
     
  21. Cherry Lover

    Cherry Lover Experienced.

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    But, we don't have an alliance with Rider. And, even if we did, Rider is not stronger than Saber, and he's certainly not stronger than Gil. Plus, allying against us is the smart move at this point, given how powerful we are.

    And, how justified we were to kill Kiritsugu is irrelevant. Iri is still going to hate us. Further, she is an entirely legitimate target, since she's a master, so why the hell is capturing her "dishonourable"?

    The problem here is that we're flip-flopping. We took an approach that was designed to target Iri and Saber, pulled it off and, then, when we're on the brink of winning, we're completely backing out of it without anything to show for it aside from Saber being more powerful and possessing a grudge against us. We've totally wasted our time here, we shouldn't have even touched Iri in the first place if we were just going to let her go.

    Yeah, this. Why the hell did we help Saber out here? All we've done is leave a dangerous enemy alive. If we'd just done nothing, then Rider could have ended up fighting Lancer, and we'd have been fine, instead of flip-flopping and therefore pissing everyone off.
     
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  22. useless101

    useless101 Doing Nothing, Nothing Doing.

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    She did do that, but at the time she had already eaten the grail, all the servants, and however much of the world she managed to get at before the Counter Force acted.

    Given the crazy way the Nasuverse works, we might be able to make the case that the grail summoned something that had more power than it could ever have, but it seems counter intuitive that this would be the way it works.

    More likely we got Dark Sakura with all of her crazy devouring abilities and some sort of external power source, but not being backed up by a collection of corrupted heroic spirits and a super powered artifact. The fact that she's currently being pressed by Gil enough that she can't properly contain Iri supports this hypothesis.

    All of this is, of course, tinted by my bias leaking in, as it seems like it'd be a rather short story if we managed to summon something that can kill all of our enemies at once during character creation.
     
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  23. Threadmarks: Night 3 / Mercy
    Biigoh

    Biigoh Nothing but Innocent Fluff Moderator

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    [X] Mercy is a quality that the virtuous should strive for.

    You gaze down upon the noble figure, wounded but not dead, at your feet as she attempted to struggle to her feet. Wounded as she was, it would be... easy for you to deal with both Saber and the Einzbern.

    Easy and simple.

    Easy enough to paralyze the Einzbern and push her back into the shadows with a foot to her face. You silence the whispering from Zouken for his Justeaze, you did not need distractions in the here and now.

    Killing or even capturing Saber would be easy, as wounded as she was, and you even had her master to harvest the command seals from.

    To be sure, you hadn't secured an alliance with Rider yet. But with Saver keeping Archer busy, there wasn't anyone who could stop you.

    You could even expand a single command seal to deal with Archer.

    It was all laid out before you... it wouldn't take much to secure yourself as the primary contender for the grail.

    And as you ponder this, not yet ready to make your thoughts into actions, you find yourself standing mentally before the doors of a dojo.

    "The Einzbern Dojo?" You blinked... the fuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuing laughter from within as the dojo doors opened to revealed shadows... that didn't inspire confidence at all.

    You shake your head, certain that doom only awaited you, and that mental image of the dojo doors faded.

    What were you thinking? Going after either Archer or Saber at this point was a sure method to get the others to agree that you were the true danger of the grail war and had to be dealt with immediately.

    No, much better to let a weakened Saber run. It wasn't as if the other masters or servants wouldn't smell blood and go after her and the Einzbern themselves.

    "Saber, take your master and go," You eventually speak up with a sigh. While you could do things now, it wasn't truly advantageous. Not when it was out in the open, and as it was you and Saver had revealed some of the tricks you could do.

    That Saver was able to match Archer pound for pound, shot for shot... that wasn't going to end well.

    Still, as the blonde king of knights staggered to where her master struggled, you quietly requested Sakura to release the Einzbern master. It wasn't much of a sign, but the homunculus did seem to escape easier with that request...

    "So... so dark, S... saber..." It's clear from the way that the Einzbern clung to her servant that she wouldn't be an issue at this point. And with the way the two stumbled, they had come out for the worse this night.

    There was a flare of prana from where Gilgamesh stood upon the containers, gazing down upon the shambling horde of shadow giants that flickered and died to his rain of noble phantasms.

    A rain of stars that hammered the earth.

    Careless.

    Ceaseless.

    And yet, what hadn't been dealt with by Saver faded into motes of golden prana.

    "Consider yourself lucky, thieving worm and mongrels," You can see the rage upon his face, being forced down.

    With that, the golden king of heroes vanished. Clearly, Tohsaka had recalled his servant rather than continue a pointless battle.

    At a cost of a command seal.

    You would have to take that as a win here and now. While, you had revealed some of your secrets, it could be said that the other two of the founding families were much worse off.

    That just left you and Waver Velvet, with your respective servants Saver and Rider standing amidst the ruined wharf, the soft roaring of the sea as it surged against concrete the only sound now.

    A silence from the roar of explosions, of noble phantasms launched as rockets, of the clashing of blades. Shattered tarmac, destroyed metal containers formed the backdrop as the cool breeze came in from the sea.

    "Master of Saver, we will have to continue our conversation later," Rider nodded at you from within his chariot. "Perhaps our negotiations might work out, perhaps we might have to face each other on opposite sides of the battlefield. But there will be no regrets, will there?"

    He laughed, and you find yourself smiling. There is a certain something to being present at the heart of a conflict, where death awaited you, uncaring of your pedigree. Or the camera you carried.

    It hadn't been that long ago when you were a young fool who roamed battlefields for photos.

    And you had enjoyed it. Living life one step at a time, savoring its every moment.

    That Rider could see that in you, he might play the part of a fool, but there was wisdom and perceptive skills there too.

    "I hope to enjoy our next meeting as much as I did this one. It was invigorating," He smiled and turned to look down at his master. "Hey boy, don't you have anything nice to say?"

    There was a blink, a look down before Waver Velvet was lifted up. Shocked beyond words, mentally stunned by the battle that had raged around him. "Ahhh... I wish he'd man up a bit."

    The smile directed at you and Saver was friendly. You had known men like Rider in your youth... bros, as some called them. This was a bro who looked at you now with a smile.

    You find yourself smiling back at him.

    "Farewell." With a crack of his reins, and the cries of his bulls, the King of Conquerors rode off into the night skies.

    You can only gaze at the sight of the flying chariot and sigh at yet another of your common sense notions being attacked.

    Looking about at the wreckage and ruins of the wharf, you sigh. "So, this is the grail war."

    "Yes... and it's only the first night of the battles that will come," Sav... no Sakura sighed and leaned on your back, her soft mounts pressing into your back, as her arms encircled over your shoulders.

    "It won't get easier," you enjoy the sensation transmitted by the puppet body of her warmth.

    "No, but as long as you stay true and lead, I will follow," There is a scent of Sakura redolent around you as you close your eyes. The soft roar of the surf and coupled with the soft breeze, it makes you want to just go out for a walk with her.

    But you can't...

    To go out in your true body, especially at night, would be to place yourself at risk. After all, witness what had happened to the assassin master of Saber.

    But for now, you just enjoy the sensations transmitted by your puppet body.


    - - -
    Kariya Kwest : Night 3 / Mercy
    - - -

    As a fyi, next post will be day 4 or night 4 depending on what is chosen or written in.

    What Do?
    [X] Spend the day and try to upgrade the defenses of your home. You are, however, near the point of diminishing returns.
    [X] Spend the day in the Fuyuki library, you've got research to do on Gilgamesh, Iskander and King Arthur.
    [X] Spend the day out with Saver/Sakura, it's scouting and not a date!
    [X] Spend the day on breeding more familiar worms, and designing new specialized breeds [Write In].
    [X] Spend the day on working on a mystic code [Write In].
    [X] Write In
     
  24. Biigoh

    Biigoh Nothing but Innocent Fluff Moderator

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    Master : Irisviel Von Einzbern
    Name : King Arthur
    Class : Saber
    Also Known as : King of Knights
    Alignment : Lawful Good N. Phantasm : A++
    Strength : A Agility : B
    Mana : A Luck : A+
    Endurance : A

    Class Skills:
    Magic Resistance : A
    Riding : B

    Personal Skills:
    Charisma : B
    Instinct : A
    Prana Burst : A

    Noble Phantasms:
    Excalibur A++
    Anti-Fortress
    Description on Excalibur

    Invisible Air C
    Anti-Unit
    Description on Invisible Air
     
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  25. Jiven

    Jiven Most Excellent Lurker

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    Pleasing update.

    [X] Spend the day in the Fuyuki library, you've got research to do on Gilgamesh, Iskander and King Arthur.
     
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    Redon the baka nerbie

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    [X] Spend the day in the Fuyuki library, you've got research to do on Gilgamesh, Iskander and King Arthur.
     
  27. EnderofWorlds

    EnderofWorlds Versed in the lewd.

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    Question: How much damage was inflicted on Saber by Gae Buhide? I'm curious as to how fucked over Saber is due to permanent injuries...
     
  28. Biigoh

    Biigoh Nothing but Innocent Fluff Moderator

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    You are uncertain which wounds are inflicted by which spear... she is, however, very fucked over if 1/2 of the wounds spotted are caused by Gae Buhide just due to "thousand small cuts". The major issue is her hand.
     
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    EnderofWorlds Versed in the lewd.

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    Glad to know that the hand injury from canon was inflicted; that means no Excaliblast. Definitely far more manageable; not to mention Iri's going to be keeping Avalon, Saber isn't going to let her give it back cause lolchivalry. Though I don't think that'd work cause of how Gae Buhide works, not to mention that they didn't try that in canon either so I think it's safe to assume those injuries are permanent until Lancer does something really fucking stupid.
     
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    Biigoh Nothing but Innocent Fluff Moderator

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    Indeed... the hand injury was done prior to Sakura/Saver showing up on the wharf.
     
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