Potential Rule 8 Question: Regarding the Recent Anti-NSFW Content Bans...

[NumberSix]

I've always thought the idea of using a VPS for a VPN odd. In a way it makes sense business customers expect more privacy, but still I find hard to to believe they won't log your every connection. If only to make sure they don't get in trouble or comply with some random law.

With reputable VPN in a privacy friendly jurisdiction like proton or mullvad you can at least breath somewhat easy, I'm not so sure about VPS though. Their reputations don't hinge on being privacy friendly ether.

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VPS literally just means Virtual Private Server, aka any and all Iaas, you just need a VM you have root access to, preferably not an LXC or other container since you might need to install kernel modules or mess with network config in ways that might not work properly with a container type setup.
The VM can run on any hyperscaler(like AWS) it can run on the infra of some shitty Latin American hosting company.

 

[humon]

Well, this is depressing. Any chance that thing will get better in the future?

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You may remember that in the Terminator movies, there was a message that John Connor made Kyle Reese memorize, so he could relay it to Sarah Connor after traveling back into the past.

The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.

Or as the coach in Miracle put it:

Now go out there and take it.

Yeah the self-censorship and control governments get is probably the biggest problem.

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I'm not particularly religious, but I've been getting more and more interested in the Bible in recent years, looking for ancient wisdom that might help make sense of things, and there was something Jesus said about not hiding your light under a bushel but being like a city on a hill, visible to everyone. I'm convinced that this is the antidote to self-censorship and control through fear. The antidote is to say what must be said, regardless of what punishment is going to come to you for it. That's not to say be inflammatory or slanderous, as that would be pointless and foolish, and the very thing that rule 8 is designed to prevent. The goal is not to simply punish your enemies in a game of 5th generation warfare, but rather... the goal is truth. I advise everyone to tell the truth when your conscience demands it of you, to always test what you believe and make certain that what you speak is actually truth and not just propaganda or the voice of your own base appetites, but the thing that actually needs to be said to improve the situation... and to then speak it without fear... and be prepared to be crucified for it. The world needs people like that right now, and it might be the only way for the average person to make a real difference.

Most people will self-censor and hide their light out of fear of being punished. Those people don't matter, because they've willingly taken themselves out of the game. The people who matter are the ones who don't just go away when threatened.

 

[XF Factor]

Most people will self-censor and hide their light out of fear of being punished. Those people don't matter, because they've willingly taken themselves out of the game. The people who matter are the ones who don't just go away when threatened.

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I have but one rebuttal. The option to "delete all posts by member" in the click of a button as is standard in most moderation control panels.

Doesn't matter how empowered by the grace of god you are. Bad moderation and petty cliques are going to censor and silence you no matter what. Persistence just leads to a thing called "ban evasion".
The only thing you can do is go elsewhere or build the temple yourself. Its not a matter of personal failings or faith when its a systemic problem.

 

[Laath-]

Edit: seems like this information is wrong? Sorry if its incorrect, relaying what people on reddit have been posting.

By the way, apparently they banned Wikipedia and some VPN sites.

...And some platforms like Spotify are also adopting new policies in the name of "protection."

I feel safer already

Please someone wake me up

 

[NumberSix]

By the way, apparently they banned Wikipedia and some VPN sites.

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And this is why I suggested rolling your own or at least learning how to.
The skills are a good building block that would let you do other things like set up your own blog or forum outside of the big aggregstors and social media junk.

Please someone wake me up

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It will get worse before it gets better.
Adapt, learn, fight.
Do not get desperate, get angry and get smart.

 

[Flux Casey]

By the way, apparently they banned Wikipedia and some VPN sites.

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In the spirit of Wikipedia. [citation needed]

I can reach Wikipedia. I'm not going to check every VPN site but I definitely checked the two everyone has probably heard of. No problem.

 

[NumberSix]

In the spirit of Wikipedia. [citation needed]

I can reach Wikipedia. I'm not going to check every VPN site but I definitely checked the two everyone has probably heard of. No problem.

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I thought you were American.

 

[Flux Casey]

I thought you were American.

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Welsh. Though lived just on the wrong side of the border all my life.

 

[NumberSix]

Welsh. Though lived just on the wrong side of the border all my life.

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Interesting, maybe your ISP just hasn't gotten around to implementing the block yet or does that whole devolved parliament thing you and the Scots have require thet it ratifies and implements this stuff after the UK one does?

 

[Flux Casey]

Interesting, maybe your ISP just hasn't gotten around to implementing the block yet or does that whole devolved parliament thing you and the Scots have require thet it ratifies and implements this stuff after the UK one does?

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Wrong side of the border. I live in England. And I'm going to repeat this again for the people in the back because it was never addressed? [citation needed] All I've got is some guy saying "apparently this happened" and absolutely nothing backing it up despite doing a search. If this was happening, people'd sure as hell be talking about it elsewhere.

 

[Cherry Lover]

I've always thought the idea of using a VPS for a VPN odd. In a way it makes sense business customers expect more privacy, but still I find hard to to believe they won't log your every connection. If only to make sure they don't get in trouble or comply with some random law.

With reputable VPN in a privacy friendly jurisdiction like proton or mullvad you can at least breath somewhat easy, I'm not so sure about VPS though. Their reputations don't hinge on being privacy friendly ether.

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Depends who owns the server and who has access to it.

 

[NumberSix]

Depends who owns the server and who has access to it.

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That is valid for VPN providers, too, and I am pretty sure that some of them probably use other cloud providers to scale their infra.

And a bunch of them have somewhat nebulous ownership and can be honey pots.

 

[Count Nebula]

Depends who owns the server and who has access to it.

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Yeah, but VPS hosting provider are in the business of hosting, not privacy. It's in the best interest to keep logs, for optimization, compliance, troubleshooting/debugging, etc.

You can do a lot with a VPS but I'm not sure if a a private VPN is one of them.

 

[Count Nebula]

And a bunch of them have somewhat nebulous ownership and can be honey pots

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Yep, privacy sometimes seems like a far fetched dream...

 

[Cherry Lover]

Interesting, maybe your ISP just hasn't gotten around to implementing the block yet or does that whole devolved parliament thing you and the Scots have require thet it ratifies and implements this stuff after the UK one does?

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Wikipedia isn't blocked, and it's unlikely it will be, simply because the government knows (from past experience) how bad it would look. They did take the government to court over the laws, though.

 

[AussieWriterGuy]

I live in a country where I can literally go to jail because I've written about underage girls being fucked, so I have no plans to give anybody my identity. We'll see how the Australian government implements all their stupid boomer bullshit. I know their last attempt at blocking sites was a hilarious joke. They blocked a bunch of torrent and porn sites, but all you have to do is change your DNS to a public one (like Google's) to completely circumvent it. That's the level of competence we're dealing with here, so I'm not going to worry before I have to, but either way the scale is tilting in a really bad way.