Starborn Smith [Massive Scifi MultiFusion / Celestial Forge]

[Vanbers]

Hmm seems like a very one sided trade, he is trading all his tech and future knowledge for bargain basement prices.

For what mc has given the only real equal trade would be the entire tech base of Asgard and probably even that is not enough.

Fun moment at the end of the chapter tough, poor Ra lol.

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It's only one-sided when you don't realise that the Asgard are literally the top affixed to a jar holding all of the eldritch horrors from beyond the stars at bay.

The Ancients might do some things to nudge things into place to protect people, but it's the Asgard that are boots on the ground kicking Tyranid's teeth in, and holding off the Goa'uld.

It's also a show of good faith and good will that will cause the Asgard to view them IMMENSELY favorably.

Like, I mean if I lived in a universe where Tyranids, Replicators, and the Ori all existed, and I knew the Asgard were active and trying to fight them, you bet your ass I'd hand them literally everything I have in the hopes of getting all those things either dead or contained.

Hell, if he solves that dying problem the Asgard have, they'd be LUDICROUSLY good allies to have. The Asgard are cool, man.

 

[Trek]

Look at it this way the MC is a person from our time. He is not a strategic genius, but he knows he's in a galaxy with lots of problems.He knows parts of what's going on, which gives him a unique view on all the threats that he knows are out there. The only option which makes sense is to seek out allies which means sharing what he knows. It's all a matter of perspective, but survival trumps everything including the possible risks of his information getting out. Plus, it's not like the information will not be secured in someway.

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Giving reasonable info and giving all your metaknowledge advantages and tech are two very very different things.

It's only one-sided when you don't realise that the Asgard are literally the top affixed to a jar holding all of the eldritch horrors from beyond the stars at bay.

The Ancients might do some things to nudge things into place to protect people, but it's the Asgard that are boots on the ground kicking Tyranid's teeth in, and holding off the Goa'uld.

It's also a show of good faith and good will that will cause the Asgard to view them IMMENSELY favorably.

Like, I mean if I lived in a universe where Tyranids, Replicators, and the Ori all existed, and I knew the Asgard were active and trying to fight them, you bet your ass I'd hand them literally everything I have in the hopes of getting all those things either dead or contained.

Hell, if he solves that dying problem the Asgard have, they'd be LUDICROUSLY good allies to have. The Asgard are cool, man.

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There is something called proportionality, they would already view them very favorably if he gave them limited but critical info.

There also the issue of the time scale, if you want to make rock solid allies you slowly build up trust you dont just dump your entire value in one encounter with nothing gained in return, that only makes you look like a chump who does not understand the value of what you own.

You dont just live in a universe in which Tyranids, Replicators, and the Ori, you live in a universe where you have the future knowledge on a bunch of treasures and key events you can pry and benefit from with a OP long term cheat power.

 

[Vanbers]

There is something called proportionality, they would already view them very favorably if he gave them limited but critical info.

There also the issue of the time scale, if you want to make rock solid allies you slowly build up trust you dont just dump your entire value in one encounter with nothing gained in return, that only makes you look like a chump who does not understand the value of what you own.

You dont just live in a universe in which Tyranids, Replicators, and the Ori, you live in a universe where you have the future knowledge on a bunch of treasures and key events you can pry and benefit from with a OP long term cheat power.

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He already has the Celestial Forge.

Having the Asgard aware and active against universe-ending threats is absurdly more useful than whatever scraps of technology he could potentially scavenge from half-remembered details of the series that he wouldn't even fully remember in the first place without the Asgard's tech bolstering his memories and saving them to be viewed later.

You're so hyperfocused on whatever esoteric potential lore bit that would make him vaguely stronger you forget that none of that matters if he dies. And him dying increases exponentially if the Asgard aren't going around stomping shit and distracting Ra.

 

[Trek]

He already has the Celestial Forge.

Having the Asgard aware and active against universe-ending threats is absurdly more useful than whatever scraps of technology he could potentially scavenge from half-remembered details of the series that he wouldn't even fully remember in the first place without the Asgard's tech bolstering his memories and saving them to be viewed later.

You're so hyperfocused on whatever esoteric potential lore bit that would make him vaguely stronger you forget that none of that matters if he dies. And him dying increases exponentially if the Asgard aren't going around stomping shit and distracting Ra.

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Its difficult to weight the potentials like that as this world is a mishmash so there are plenty of opportunities you can get with foreknowledge that may be even stronger than Asgard. For example stellaris relics, The Destiny database, etc etc.

If you actually watch any series with a mindset of looking for opportunities you find time and time again so many things that are awesome that are never seen again or destroyed for plot reasons. But if you intercept them at the right time they can be game changing.

His perk gains are slow enough that he actually has to consider his other advantages one of which is foreknowledge. Foreknowledge can give him faster and maybe even better gains seeing as CF is random in its nature.

All that is moot now as he has spread around his future knowledge so much and reduced its value by giving other factions those opportunities instead of taking them himself.

Not to mention he could have shared info about key threats rather than just dumping the entire future knowledge and his tech base.

 

[BlazingHyperion]

Hmm seems like a very one sided trade, he is trading all his tech and future knowledge for bargain basement prices.

For what mc has given the only real equal trade would be the entire tech base of Asgard and probably even that is not enough.

Fun moment at the end of the chapter tough, poor Ra lol.

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It very much is one sided, but the possibility of actually getting much of that technology, rather than it just sitting in the recesses of Arthur's brain is pretty worth it.

Without the help of the Asgard, they'd never have a chance to get most of that stuff to begin with. Sure, Arthur knows the broad strokes, but there are a lot of opportunities that can be missed when you only have access to the broad strokes.

It seems that way until one notices Thor saying they're holding back the Tyranids.

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Yup. That about covers it. Or they will be in the near future.

I am not even sure why mc wants copies of these memories it seems way to dangerous and risky to have these things outside of his skull.

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As stated above, he knew the broad strokes of most plot lines but not the specifics. He knew that Cimmeria has the Hall of Thor's might and that Atlantis exists, but not the specific gate address or even whats inside the halls.

The details can be the important pieces of information, and he doesn't know a LOT of them.

As far as he is aware, the Asgard are the best possible group to have that information.

Look at it this way the MC is a person from our time. He is not a strategic genius, but he knows he's in a galaxy with lots of problems.He knows parts of what's going on, which gives him a unique view on all the threats that he knows are out there. The only option which makes sense is to seek out allies which means sharing what he knows. It's all a matter of perspective, but survival trumps everything including the possible risks of his information getting out. Plus, it's not like the information will not be secured in someway.

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Exactly. The information is secure while in Asgard hands. The information being in his head is meaningless if they can't actually use it. Using it to make allies with the Asgard i

It's only one-sided when you don't realise that the Asgard are literally the top affixed to a jar holding all of the eldritch horrors from beyond the stars at bay.

The Ancients might do some things to nudge things into place to protect people, but it's the Asgard that are boots on the ground kicking Tyranid's teeth in, and holding off the Goa'uld.

It's also a show of good faith and good will that will cause the Asgard to view them IMMENSELY favorably.

Like, I mean if I lived in a universe where Tyranids, Replicators, and the Ori all existed, and I knew the Asgard were active and trying to fight them, you bet your ass I'd hand them literally everything I have in the hopes of getting all those things either dead or contained.

Hell, if he solves that dying problem the Asgard have, they'd be LUDICROUSLY good allies to have. The Asgard are cool, man.

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Very much agreed.

Though I would have spent more time getting to know them, which is why the Asgard basically just shower up.

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The main reason he shared knowledge with the asgard is that:
a) they have tech for memory transfer, so he can actually get copies of all his meta knowledge. As stated, he knows the broadstrokes and without some sort of memory transfer tech, thats all he has.

b) the Asgard are pretty trustworthy, as far as Arthur knows.