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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Mr Zoat

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    I wasn't planning to, but I suppose I could if you really wanted.
     
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    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Alright, but when the "REAL" Para-Paul shows up, even though his name is Jim, and it turns out that the Paul we've been watching this entire time was a clone that was swapped in while he was floating around in space, but then Jim-Paul takes a Nabu-glider to the chest and we learn that HE was actually the clone, and.....I don't even remember where I was going with this. The Ben is Peter not Peter, but Peter is still Peter, but Ben is the real Peter even though he's still Ben, no wait its actually Peter....

    Fuck I lost it again.

    Damn you 90's! Must you haunt us you specter of dark regret!?
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    "Here."

    I'm mildly pleased that Dox remembers to both look at the hologram and look me in the eyes. His social skills are definitely improving. In pigeon toes rather than leaps and bounds, but progress is progress. The location he points to…

    "That's well outside of the conflict zone. Yes, I know that it's on a trade route the Reach use, but I don't see why you want me there."

    Other images flick up, and I accelerate my perception to keep up with the information on display. Things seem to be progressing well. Reach fleets are retreating after making token resistance in.. most places, and Grayven's followers and ours are mostly avoiding one another as intended.

    "I know that I'm not essential-."

    "You will be. The Reach are building up for a serious counterattack. We have about three weeks though, and I'd like to have you fully rested and not dead when it happens."

    "I could do a spoiler attack?"

    "That would just make them delay it. I'll send you after one of their fleet concentrations, but only close to the time they plan to begin their attack."

    I raise my eyebrows.

    "We know when that is?"

    "It's a matter of logistics and organisation. They can only do it after a certain time, and if they leave it too long then we'll be able to take advantage of the patrol fleets they've transferred to their offensive fleet. The Reach are… Capable practitioners of information security."

    "They've been doing this for a while. Evolution versus intelligent design."

    "They can't match me. But that doesn't mean that they're going to make it easy." He switches the hologram from fleet deployments and progress reports to an image of planet… Yuna. "This is where I'm sending you. The Reach have a presence here. We've been concerned that otherwise disinterested parties might start to involve themselves if there were an interruption to their existing trade routes. Darkstar intelligence suggests that Yuna's trade league is considering it."

    "Considering military action?"

    "Perhaps. Certainly considering authorising privateers and sanctions against our allies."

    "I thought we'd mostly arranged things so that we could trade within our alliance bloc?"

    "For vital materials, certainly. Some luxury products are imported, and we haven't tried to block our partners trading outside of our bloc."

    I nod.

    "Anything else?"

    "Show the flag. Publically demonstrate that you are still alive. The Reach aren't boasting openly about killing you, but it has been mentioned. And if you can talk them around to supporting us and abandoning their trading relationship with the Reach, that would be beneficial."

    "What do the Reach get out of it? Their industry isn't much more primitive than ours."

    "Information, luxury goods and occasionally pieces of highly advanced technology. Of those, luxury goods are the most essential to their civilisation."

    "They are?"

    "The Reach practises a form of militant capitalism. Their system promises its citizens luxuries in return for service and loyalty. Without external trade their social order cannot function."

    "So we're making plans to unleash our own privateers?"

    "I have a plan, certainly. I won't be authorising its use, because there's no way we could conquer and occupy Reach space before they restabilised into a more rational social model that actually improved their ability in war-fighting."

    "Then-?"

    "In the unlikely event that you are that successful, removing a single trade artery from their system won't have that effect."

    "Rightoh. What am I taking with me?"

    "You formed a rapport with Lantern Drusa, and she is sufficiently cunning to make up for your complete failure in matters of subtlety."

    That's fair.

    "You will also travel with a trade convoy, which will be escorted by a small L.E.G.I.O.N. fleet. The fleet is intended for light anti-piracy work."

    "So don't pick a fight with the Reach."

    "Don't pick a fight with anyone. Yuna isn't Vega; it's a civilised world in a civilised region. You won't win people over by beating people up."

    "Understood. Are meetings with the relevant officials already set up, or should I arrange them myself?"

    "Have Lantern Drusa set it up once you're in system."

    "Why would-?" I sigh. "Harbour pilots?"

    "They are close to a war zone."

    "Please tell me they can use FTL in-system?"

    "At low speeds and at set angles of approach."

    "Okay, I'll bring a long book. Anything else I need to know about?"

    "Lantern Xor has been busy. The Alignment has collapsed into open civil war, much to the pleasure of their neighbours."

    I smile. That is good news.

    "I'll send him a card. Any likely blowback over here?"

    "It might be nice to add them to L.E.G.I.O.N., once the situation stabilises. The fleet assigned to Earth can be there relatively quickly. Do you still need them on station?"

    "No, I don't think so. Honestly, once the Sheeda were dealt with I probably didn't really need them to stop King Orin doing something stupid. Having them around is useful and I'm sure they're gathering all sorts of useful data, but it's not a problem if you want to send them somewhere else."

    "I will bear that in mind. You are dismissed, Illustres. Lantern Drusa is awaiting your message."

    I give him a shallow bow, then turn and walk out of his office.

    "How did it go?"

    Ratchet moves his tentacles in a gesture of polite enquiry, the slight tremor suggesting an undercurrent of worry. I glance back for a moment as the door closes.

    "Pretty well. I'm going back to work for the Corps. Is Dox having any problems?"

    "No." Emphatic negation gesture. "His position remains stable. Most Orange Lanterns and ship-captains are happy so long as the Reach continues to lose. His social skills have improved… Somewhat."

    "I noticed. Good work with that."

    "It was really more Brande's work. Though I did help."

    I smile. "Keep helping. I'll speak to you when I get back."
     
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  4. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Aww, it's like getting a scared razor mink to come out of it's shell :3

    And Paul is going to visit a world were blowing shit up won't net you points? Interesting
     
  5. Darko

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    'patrol'

    'there was'

    More than fair.
     
  6. Agent Orange

    Agent Orange Versed in the lewd.

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    Pavlos didn't scratch his head in confusion but it was a close thing. Still, something about that sentence made him think. There was a time, couple of years ago, when he didn't have to be told not to beat people up. When his first instinct to encountering an issue wasn't 'punch it in the face'. Is this what the League felt like when he talked with them? Weird. His past self was a weirdo.
     
  7. gustyeagle

    gustyeagle Know what you're doing yet?

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    You either die a Reed Richards or live long enough to see yourself become a righteous face puncher. F's
     
  8. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
    I think that's okay.
     
  9. Chojin Patriarch

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    Clearly someone made it clear enough, for even Dox to pick up on, that his.. brusque command style was not beneficial to fostering morale. Mayhaps he can avoid the assholery that plagued the canon version in 'L.E.G.I.O.N' comics...

    Good to see the God of Conquest can be sensible. Presumably on the logic that antagonising the enemy of your enemy is a good way to make them your enemy too... And the last thing he'd want is a war on two fronts...

    Eh, he's not due for another bout of flexible mortality for a few months at this rate. Once every six months is an acceptable fatality rate in this universe...

    And keeping him out of the main line of combat will make the Reach more confident that they did permanent harm. Perfect for sweeping the rug out from under them when he solos a fleet or two.

    Wait too long, you open up exploitable gaps. Move too quickly, and you risk being understrength for the fight you face. I suppose Dox's intellect makes it easier for him to gauge when that critical point will come.

    Hmm... And OL is going to politely ask them to keep their noses out of it? While flying the NEMO flag?

    Ah, the 'plausibly deniable' form of military action. That's hardly pleasant for NEMO, but not a game-breaker.

    Might put a few noses out of joint, blocking commercial routes like that. Even if it's a security risk for espionage...

    Might be a tall order. OL's not been the most diplomatic person these days. Too much face-punching of the unrighteous, even if they do end up deserving it.

    Keeping their people happy with color TVs and local sports teams, eh? The more advanced things get, the simpler some things remain...

    Good point. Which is an odd contrast with their almost obsessive need to conquer... I suppose trade just makes it easier to slowly nudge them into 'joining hands in a profitable union'...

    So, let them continue relaxing so as not to wake a potential sleeping giant, eh?

    No poking the bear, then. No pressure to sway the Yunan (Yunian? Yunite?) leaders.

    Well, when all you have is a railgun construct, everything starts looking like a target... Honestly, OL doesn't even realise how much he's changed these days, does he?

    And try not to beat them up too badly when they throw the first punch? Because it's bound to happen sooner or later...

    Don't be silly. That'd be a waste of Dox's valuable thinking time. And with a power ring, that's 99% of his day, after all.

    Great, they're going to have to pay union rates, too. Still, I doubt they could swing a Greediport into the sector. Much too aggressive a move.

    As if...

    Wonder if that applies to their own system defence craft or not?

    Always nice to see a friend doing well in their endeavours.

    Hmm... Nothing happening in system to be concerned about. Might affect global politics a little...

    And the more data Dox has on Earth the better, because it's only a matter of time until some damn fool thing in the galactic Balkans sets off a powderkeg somewhere...

    Better than expected, really. No yelling, for a start. Not even a 'try not to die again.'

    Ah, has Ratchet been giving Dox social advice through the power of Hugz?

    Interesting that OL's personal recruits seem more loyal to him than to Dox despite the chain of command. To be expected, really. He did pull most of them out of bad situations...

    So, a diplomatic assignment? Looks like Drusa's going to have their hands full keeping Hurricane Pavlos from upsetting any locals. :p But, really, OL's off-world actions always do seem to end up involving violence, don't they? Usually to bad people, true, but compared to how easygoing things on Earth usually turn out... :sneaky: I would not be surprised if there are betting pools in the ranks about how long the Illustres' missions will run before shots are fired.
     
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    Nope.

    I'm now picturing a member of N.E.M.O. walking into Dox's office and seeing Ratchet hugging him.

    Said member then just slowly walks out with a blank expression on their face.

    I'm also picturing one that just watches them and when it looks like they're stopping, he tells them to keep doing it in a commanding voice.

    A more difficult mission there has never been.
     
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    Time to bake another cake?
     
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    Only if it's larger than the last one.
     
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    Nobody is that cunning, he's an utter trainwreck when it comes to subtly.
     
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  14. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    I can only hope that someone with a better memory than me (and/or more patience) will update the list of Orange Lanterns on the wiki, and maybe even give more of them articles. Like, I recognize Drusa's name, but I'm blanking on details. I do know who Ratchet is, though, and at least he's on the list, but Drusa doesn't even have that, and neither does Xor (though I do recall reading the chapters he was in, just not the names of the episodes).


    EDIT: In reference to Paul's increased tendency to get into fights: To be fair, he's very powerful, quite skilled, and very hard to kill, he's fond of efficiency, and he's in a violent profession, so even without whatever Boss Smiley did to him, he isn't forced to maintain the skills and habits of talking things out with people, and thus those skills and habits could fade.
     
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  15. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    You can also check the TV Tropes page. That has a few more members in it.
     
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    Drusa's the one who hacked Aya in the Green Lantern animated series.
     
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  17. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    That's less helpful than you probably think.

    EDIT:
    I'd rather not give TVTropes more page views than absolutely necessary.
     
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    I think it's more that he has more people that he cares about on Earth. As such, he wants to improve it with as little chance of people he cares about being hurt as possible. When he's on other planets, he wants to improve them, but he's more willing to do things like mass murder.
     
  19. moralrelativity

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    beneficially -> beneficial
     
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    Thank you, corrected.
    First seen back here.
     
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    I feel like that’s a loaded way of saying it

    A more neutral way of putting it would be that OL can only dedicate time to so many projects at once so it’s better for him to take the more hands off route to helping people on other planets, even if that includes violence
     
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    "So?"

    Lantern Drusa looks at me a little cautiously.

    "So?"

    "How have you been? How do you feel about our mission? Are there any developments in your skills regarding which you need to apprise me?"

    "Well enough. It's a job. I'm… Not a god..?"

    "Me neither."

    I take a seat on the opposite side of the refectory table, the various L.E.G.I.O.N.-affiliated personnel around us suddenly taking a great deal more interest. At least, those who aren't heading for what they imagine to be minimum safe distance.

    Come on. Becoming a god's not that hard. Have these people even met a god?

    "And I wasn't expecting you to be a god. I was wondering how much progress you'd made in finding out what it is that you most value?"

    Her eyes drop to… Her copy of 'The Grace of Aulier'? A religious book from her homeworld.

    "I'm not finding it here." She stares into my eyes. "How did you become immortal?"

    "Did you try reading my book?"

    She nods. "You abhor decay."

    I extend my right forefinger and point to a worn section of her book at it is restored back to prime condition. Then a scuff on the table, a faint stain…

    "I abhor decay. My environmental shield undoes it without me even really thinking about it."

    "How do you get like that?"

    "I don't know, exactly. I didn't grow up in a-" I point to her book again. "-religious household. But I did go to a religious primary school. And I wasn't really… I'm not naturally inclined to question things that I'm told-."

    She blinks, her mouth falling open slightly for a moment before she closes it again, trying to make it look like she wasn't astonished.

    "I grew up surrounded by trustworthy people. I know, I was lucky. But when the local vicar gave weekly sermons I just… Accepted that was how the universe worked. And then… When I learned a little more about the world around me, I couldn't relate the fantastical stuff that he was saying with.. practical reality. That was when I first came to believe that death was permanent."

    "It still is for most people."

    I shake my head.

    "No. Lantern Corps policy involves shipping our corpses back to our homeworlds where possible, or a friendly world where it's not. Your soul will end up somewhere. Did you see my tattoos?"

    "… Yes."

    "That's what I had to do to even get a soul. Well before I developed my current level of pain resistance, I volunteered to have my flesh branded so I could benefit from something that you've had your entire life at no cost." I lean back slightly. "Once I stopped believing in God, I stopped believing in souls. And if souls didn't exist, death was inevitable oblivion."

    "Yes?"

    "I can only assume that it was more of a shock to me than it is to you because I had previously believed that it wasn't the case."

    "That was it?"

    "There was an encounter with a dead chicken as well, but… Yes. I don't like me decaying. I don't like the things around me decaying. The first thing-."

    "The first thing you did with your ring was improve your body."

    "I can heal myself very easily, too."

    "So without having gone through those experiences, I can't make myself immortal."

    "No, you probably can. Just not in the same way. Is there really no long-term goal that you're working towards? I-" I shake my head and shrug. "-mean, anything."

    She thinks for a moment.

    "Which god?"

    "Ah… In my home parallel, we haven't had contact with other intelligent species. I don't know if there's anything like the Source Wall. But it was a monotheistic religion worshipping an all-powerful creator deity."

    "My peo-. My homeworld had several religions. All they were for me was a source of curse words."

    "You didn't grow up with one in-" I point to the book again. "-particular?"

    "I'm going through them in alphabetical order. No."

    "Okay, so you don't specifically want to be immortal."

    "I want to be immortal. I just don't want it as hard as you do. I'm so used to things decaying that it doesn't seem wrong to me."

    "If you're interested in taking that route, I know a few telepaths-."

    "No."

    "Ah, progress! You-."

    "I value my mental integrity over becoming a better Lantern."

    "'Better' is a loaded term. There's no one right way to be an Orange Lantern. Though-. Have you ever visited Larfleeze?" I get a shallow nod. "That's the wrong way."

    "Because he has no desires that are actually his own, he just acts on pure desire."

    "That's not a terrible answer. I honestly hadn't thought of it like that." I nod. "But I think you're right. So… Okay, you're having a problem with a visceral drive. Working on pure intellectual desire. Where do you want to end up? If given a choice of jobs, which do you opt for, all other things being equal?"

    "I like working with technology. But now I have-" She raises her left hand, ring shimmering. "-the most advanced piece of technology in the universe on my finger."

    "Do you want to learn to create them?"

    "I could, but then I'd just have the ability to create something I've already got."

    "Only machines it has a record of. Have you read the files on my homeworld's scientists?"

    "I picked up machines because it made me useful but not threatening. I don't have some great underlying love for technology."

    "Okay. Maybe we're taking the wrong approach, here."

    "What do you mean?"

    "You don't know of anything you really really want? So maybe you just need to try completely new things. How do you feel about model wargaming?"
     
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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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    Diraniola Not too sore, are you?

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    Paul would take that opening to recommend his game.
     
  26. Handlewithcare

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    "LET THE EMPEROR...LITTLE PLASTIC FIGURINES FILL THAT GAPING MAW IN YOUR SOUL!"

    Hm. Slaneesh would actually be a good cautionary tale for OLs. Excessive want without satisfaction.
     
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    Canis has called you a New God, and others have called you a demigod.

    No Paul, they haven't.

    Well there are the Controllers.

    Also, not everyone finds things as easy as you do.

    This does not match up with what we've seen him do when he's told something by someone.

    Assuming her world has an afterlife.

    If not, then she may just be a ghost, and that may not be so good, or she could be absorbed in her worlds mystic fields and potentially lose her identity and sense of self, so just another form if death.

    Still not all that connected to them.

    'homeworlds'

    If the second 'really' is not intentional then it's just 'you really want'

    Hmm, so he may ask her for help in the Vega game.
     
  28. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  29. FreeGod

    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    I assume that it was a changing experience in more than one way.
     
  30. DrThoth

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    Is this the Lantern who really valued wealth/material resources because they were rare on her planet? I forget if we got a detailed explanation of how she was chosen.

    Paragon could use his empathic vision to figure out her desires, but without some even more metaphysical shenanigans that probably wouldn't lead to identifying potential new desires.

    If she values mental integrity so much, I think that could extend to a general desire for stability of consciousness, which is basically what a soul is. She could turn that into an abhorrence of specifically mental deterioration and thus have a perpetually unaging brain (a Lantern equivalent to the Brain on Earth, I suppose). Cloning or brain transplantation tech seems feasible with the levels of technology in play here, especially with having medically oriented Orange Lanterns who would be really driven to heal others. It wouldn't be the pseudo-immortality the Paragon has, but it seems functional enough.

    Another suggestion is just throwing her into a life-or-death situation to trigger primal survival instincts or something, though that could go any number of ways.
     
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