With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[boo600]

Huh. I mean, partial transubstantiation is useful (and a nice way for Paul to resist even bullshit that bypasses all reasonable defenses), but honestly, given how much of an Octopus is neuron (their tentacles are brains!), I would think that human consciousnesses could exist in some form - if you stripped away all motor function and coordination. Which would harm their mind a fair bit, but still allow a normal octo-lantern to use their ring and try to fight back.
Although it probably wouldn't be good for their sanity, meaning it would be more of a Kog Maw-you-can-fight-back-after-you-shouldn't thing. (Karthus?)

Also, it's nice to see Assimilation put to use. Subtle uses of the orange light (and benefits of mastery and ascension) are lovely, but asset denial+repurposing is the Point of Orange Light, and Apocalyptians are an excellent example of sapient, powerful, and morally understandable assimilation fodder. Will he keep the nigh-indestructible skin, I wonder? It's weak to x-ionised blades, but a construct with krytponian base surface durability should still be useful (and a sapient construct can both fly and generate weapon-constructs as if it was a lesser lantern, making Shaligo much more useful than Paul's recent arsenal...)

...why doesn't he use his New God minions more? The shipmaster is weak, but he could have helped against the OMACs. Streamlined heuristics to avoid choice paralysis explains a lot, but he should really train himself to think of throwing minions at more problems. Especially since the general public doesn't understand constructs, and his constructs aren't mostly demons now!

Edit: And there's no chance of Assimilating S'ivaa, but given that he's apparently immune to the Omega Effect (and probably resistant to the Anti-Life, as long as its only a piece or two), I really wish there was a way to aim him at Darkseid instead of the universe at large.

 

[mastermenthe]

Flying fishman looks down at his increasingly orange body with an expression of resigned acceptance. "Back to the spawning pits again."

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You know, I think Deep Six is going to be very confused when Shaligo doesn't come back when they return to the spawning pits.

 

[Lord Ernest]

Assimilation is back on the menu, boys!

 

[Frozen20XX]

You know, I think Deep Six is going to be very confused when Shaligo doesn't come back when they return to the spawning pits.

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Shaligo will probably be confused when he gets summoned back before his new master gets him to work.

And you're assuming OL will let them leave New Genesis without turning them orange.

 

[Mr Zoat]

...why doesn't he use his New God minions more? The shipmaster is weak, but he could have helped against the OMACs. Streamlined heuristics to avoid choice paralysis explains a lot, but he should really train himself to think of throwing minions at more problems. Especially since the general public doesn't understand constructs, and his constructs aren't mostly demons now!

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Partially because it's ghoulish, and partially because I usually forget what he's got in there.

 

[BartlettMagic]

excellent chapter, and thanks Zoat for delivering on some assimilation.

i had completely forgotten about that Shipmaster guy.

apologies if this has been asked already, but are any other members of the OLC able to assimilate?

 

[Mr Zoat]

but are any other members of the OLC able to assimilate?

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Almost all. There's probably one or two whose objection to the practice is so profound and deep rooted that they can't, but other than that they all can.

 

[CrazyNoVa]

Henceforth, this new transformation shall be known as...OCTOPAUL!

 

[Lord Ernest]

Is someone able to do a proper recap of Construct Lanterns that the Illustres has at his disposal? Would be helpful and it could be added to the FAQ page as well.

I think I remember the Hydra Heads, the fungus guy and the Shipmaster (now that he's been mentioned). Does he still have the fish people and the shade demon?

 

[Frozen20XX]

Construct Lanterns for Paragon (+other orange lanterns)

Paragon: T.O. Morrow, Saremite, Reach Thralls, Demon Nabu, Gary, Karrakanian Shipmaster, Hydra Heads, and Shaligo. He also had control over Larfleeze's constructs post-defeating him.

Paragon Onik: An ex-Yellow Lantern and a nondescript crew.

Paragon Komamd'r: Gard.

Renegade: Vandal, Ra's, Brain, Estrogina, von Daggle.
—Future Renegade: Unamed eldritch monster.

Common Sense: Wotan.

Warhammer: Several beastmen, goblins, skaven, daemons, plaguebearers and steed-mounted daemonettes plus a mammoth.

Warhammer 40K: A genestealer and several orks.

X-Man: Sublime.

Stargate G1: Goa'uld Am-heh.

Invincible: Angstrom Levy.

Paragon! Teekl, the Praexis Demons, Hellwraith, and Renegade! Sportsmaster, Bane, Nabu, and Klarion were destroyed permanently. The TV Tropes also lists Paragon and Renegade's lanterns.

These are all the Orange Lanterns shown or mentioned to have performed identity thefts.

 

[Steelplaza]

"The SI finds it ghoulish" is probably a pretty strong reason why he doesn't do it more often. Orange rings have a lot of advantages over green rings, but in return their big whopping disadvantage is that orange users have a hard time doing the most optimal thing if a part of them doesn't want to do the most optimal thing. A green ring user can go, "Like it or not I gotta do this" and use their willpower to "do this".

The SI can only do that if he can determine that a higher order desire can be filled by violating a lower order desire (not to do this). But the SI typically thinks he can handle most problems without summoning up assimilated constructs... and he's typically right. So if he emotionally doesn't want to do it and doesn't think he has to do it to achieve his goals, then he doesn't.

 

[Neruz]

Yeah, the big flaw of the Orange light is that you can't do anything that you don't genuinely truly want to do, regardless of how much logical sense it makes.