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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

"I suppose it would be helpful if we caught a few more with their pants down." Zatanna pulls a face-. "Metaphorically. They don't-"

Funny enough, Renegade had to deal with that particular placement of magical bugs:

I don't rush, or swing my fist or do anything that implies for a moment that I'm not in full possession of my faculties. I simply reach forward with my left hand, grab the chief bugfucker by the neck and hoist him up. This Is Not Your Place

"What are you-?!"

I then tear off the bugfucker's trousers, the elephantine insect which long ago replaced his auto-emasculated genitalia dangling free. It hisses at us.
 
Funny enough, Renegade had to deal with that particular placement of magical bugs:

Yes, but that insect engaged in parasitism, replacing the genitals like certain ticks replace fish tongues. The worms, as avatars of political corruption, would likely draw blood directly from the aforementioned organ, so as to serve as a stand-in for political cartoons regarding sexual acts. I would post some, but the ones I'm aware of all come from the modern day, and are thus disallowed on this site.
 
Not really? We see dragons and breezies living just fine? Its just the ponies were hidden by G5!Twilight's spell
what about griffins, changelings, yaks, buffalos?


Where was their food coming from?
Some Pegasi grew ornamental plants in pots on the clouds—which, of course, was not enough...

Equestria has nationwide weather management. Literally everyone encounters pegasus ponies.
Yes, but in theory, some farming clan could close its borders and withdraw.

To my, very limited, understanding, magic itself isn't gone, just pony (possibly "person") magic.
Nope, all the magic in the world vanished. The old Discord struggled immensely to use his powers in G5 because of the crystals.

at least the Student Six were decent enough characters on their own?
no

G5, despite claiming to be a sequel to G4, was pretty much just using it to artificially gain interest from the G4 fanbase due to it mostly doing its own thing and playing loose with the lore of the previous gen.
but still canon.

I'll take your word for that. I hope not, because if they are then I'd feel bad for them when they try getting a job without any qualifications or skills.
They are children closely connected to the leaders of their respective nations, having acquired a significant number of political ties within this institution. It is the rest of the students who truly deserve hope.

Wait, she told ponies? And they didn't immediately put aside their differences in order to violently stop her?
Apparently not, but Canterlot isn't lying in ruins for nothing.

Edit: Wait a moment, wait a moment. Rainbow Dash was still alive when this was happening? Rainbow 'I live to fly' Dash had the magic that allowed her to do that yanked from her body by Twilight Sparkle, and she was okay with that? While presumably still being friends with the rest of the Mane Six? What? I was assuming that this was happening long after the other five died, and Twilight was already spiralling.
Yes. She was clearly very upset, but she didn't try to stop her. Nah, the others were almost certainly alive.
 
what about griffins, changelings, yaks, buffalos?

The show didn't get far enough to tell us what happened. But just because we don't see them doesn't mean they're extinct or anything.

Although Spike revealed that, like the ponies Unity Crystals, all dragon magic was stored in a 'Dragon Stone', meaning that it wasn't just Twilight who gathered her peoples magic in a crystal. Quite literally, its possible all the rulers went along with it; presumably because they trusted Twilight that it was a way to keep the magic safe from Opaline.

Some Pegasi grew ornamental plants in pots on the clouds—which, of course, was not enough...

Well, if they can't fly or manipulate the weather anymore, they had nothing else better to do but learn how to farm.

Nope, all the magic in the world vanished. The old Discord struggled immensely to use his powers in G5 because of the crystals.

Well, the spell keeping Equestria hidden from Opaline was still up and the ponies still had Cutie Marks. So, more accurate to say that 99% of the magic was gone.


Well, in my opinion they were decent (Gallus was my fav). But I can respect yours.


Unfortunately.

They are children closely connected to the leaders of their respective nations, having acquired a significant number of political ties within this institution. It is the rest of the students who truly deserve hope.

Silverstream was a princess... the rest were pretty much just random civilians. Heck, Gallus was living on the streets prior to the School of Friendship being founded.

Though the fact the Spirit of Harmony seemingly choose them as the next generation of Elements means they probably got a lot of good will.

Yes. She was clearly very upset, but she didn't try to stop her. Nah, the others were almost certainly alive.

When Spike appeared in G5, he actually seemed baffled that the ponies lost magic, implying that either it wasn't apart of the -proposed- plan or somehow every race BUT the isolationist ponies managed to keep their magic... because unlike the ponies, the other races had their magic stored in one crystal instead of three.

Edit:

"Because we don't want you going extinct, Agent Pharynx. Your population needs the capacity to produce grubs, or you don't have a future."

This just reminded me of some fics I read where Thorax suddenly gained the ability to produce changeling eggs as a result of his ascension to a Changeling King. Those were funny.
 
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So Umm just curious. Do New Gods need to breathe or not? I remember Grayven saying he doesn't need to breathe but I am uncertain if that is because of being a New God or because he has a power ring.
 
Worms (part 16) New
12th October 2013
14:57 GMT -5

"Sir..? What do you mean by 'useful'?"

"Exactly what I said. We want the Federal Government to start operating again, but we do not want them to get in the way of our work. I'm going to send Mister Miracle to assist you. Do not allow the arrests to become public knowledge."

"Sir..?"

"If it turns out that they were voluntarily associated with some sort of corrupt cult, we can press charges. But until that is confirmed, I see no reason to damage their reputations or risk ours."

"So… Bring the police in by boom tube as well?"

"Or by ring. I'll leave the details up to you."

"Okay, I can manage that. But going back to-"

His face vanishes from above my ring.

"-useful-?"

I could ring him back, but… It's not as if I can't work it out. Arresting a large number of elected officials will remind the rest who's really in charge. And revealing the existence of these worms will show everyone why we're the ultimate authority. Because… He's not wrong about the Federal Government getting in the way being a bad thing.

I just…

BOOM!

I lower my privacy screen construct as Scott Free and Big Barda walk in through a hole in the fabric of spacetime, while across the room, Roy nods at the face on his communicator and closes it down. "They're gunna need a little while to get enough people together, but they're calling in off-duty officers right now."

"Good. Mister Miracle? Barda? Did Batman brief you?"

Barda scowls. "Batman has grown demanding."

Mister Free shrugs. "He's under a lot of pressure. What's-?" He spots the remains of the worm. "Ooh." He pulls out his multi-cube and scans it. "This isn't a magical avatar. This is a physical body."

Zatanna frowns at it. "Are you sure?"

"Pretty much. Since it's physically… You know, sundered, it would be radiating stored magic as it started decaying if it was made of magic."

"But… There's a binding…"

She shows him the drawer. He takes a look, and then shrugs. "I never learned… Whatever notation this is. Are you sure it's not doing something else?"

"I… Maybe? It's binding them to something."

"Is it binding it to Senator Covington?"

"His blood would be enough to do that."

"I'm just wondering if this worm body was made from his tissue, and if the spirit of the worm is back in its host."

"Ahhhhh-. Nruter ot ruoy sniamer!"

The worm-ooze bubbles and undulates-. And then vaporises.

"Zatanna?"

"Some sort of contingency spell. Ecart!"

A light appears for a moment over the Washington map, and then it splutters and catches fire! I extinguish it, and work out where that light appeared.

"That's… June Finch's office. She wasn't on the binding seal list."

Tony's eyes widen. "She's also the chair of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions."

"That's…" Convenient. Suspiciously convenient, but it would explain-. No, because-.

Mr. Free leans over Zatanna to look at the map. "Are we paying her a visit first?"

"We have to, right now, because that spell will almost certainly notified her. Mister Miracle?"

He waves the multi-cube over the map, returns it to his belt and then nods. "Mother Box?"

"Ping."

BOOM!

Heavy armour, construct armour, and walk-.

Barda shoves me aside and walks through first.

I recover and follow her through a moment later-.

Euww…

The Senator has… Uh, worms plural, moving in and out of her body, popping out of patches of exposed skin before sliding back in with only a brief bulge in the flesh to mark their passing. Her natural human eyes have been replaced by worm-eyes, and… My empathic vision isn't so much being blocked as glitching.

"Senator… Are you in there?"

"Yes."

Her voice sounds… Pretty normal. Considering.

"Are you in control, there?"

Zatanna steps through the portal and gasps, quietly.

"I am more in control of my life now than I have been for years."

"Excuse my scepticism."

Mister Miracle comes through next, stares for a moment and then picks up his multi-cube.

"Could you please explain..? This?"

"This is me paying recompense for my sins. All of us paying recompense for all of our sins."

"And what sins would those be?"

"What we did at Mannheim's command. And before that. I had such grand ideas before I was elected, and then I came here and I abandoned every single one in short order."

"Is that when you acquired the worms?"

"One for every abandoned dream, and idea, and betrayal. These are my worms, Orange Lantern, and they are still with me."

"Zatanna?"

"I.. could… Probably get rid of them, but I don't know what that would do to her."

Darn it. "How are the worms supposed to absolve you?"

"I feed them the blood of a traitor. My blood. Once I've fed them enough, then they will leave."

"Okay, that's… Nice. But you'll be feeding them from a cell from now on."
 
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"I feed them the blood of a traitor. My blood. Once I've fed them enough, then they will leave."

"Okay, that's… Nice. But you'll be feeding them from a cell from now on."

Or, hear me out…we can gather them up, give them all guns, and then:

Worms_3D_cover.jpg
 
She's a moron for thinking the worms are trustworthy. Or at least, MORE trustworthy than the divinely-gifted superhero organization which is allied with the angel Zuriel. The teleporting group of magic users, not the Justice League.

Surely someone in the league sent a memo around that a FAKE Uncle Sam was defeated last year. Right? So an intelligent adult could just... Talk about making blood donations with their magical safety advisors, rather than... Whatever this was.

Arsenal's involvement here seems unnecessary so far. I DO like the guy. But this level of control didn't have any violence to enforce the blood-drinking.

Also, is June related to the Mr Finch working for renegade!Lex? Is Paragon June Finch married to someone in Lex's security forces (rather than a non-existent space force)?
 
12th October 2013
14:57 GMT -5


"Sir..? What do you mean by 'useful'?"

"Exactly what I said. We want the Federal Government to start operating again, but we do not want them to get in the way of our work. I'm going to send Mister Miracle to assist you. Do not allow the arrests to become public knowledge."
Bats, that sounds a lot like you want the League to stay in charge of Earth. This is and always has been a temporary arrangement, and extending it past the point the world can manage itself is not a good plan.

"Sir..?"

"If it turns out that they were voluntarily associated with some sort of corrupt cult, we can press charges. But until that is confirmed, I see no reason to damage their reputations or risk ours."
Sensible, but unsatisfying.

"So… Bring the police in by boom tube as well?"

"Or by ring. I'll leave the details up to you."
Hoo-boy. Batman seeming super-suspicious now.

"Okay, I can manage that. But going back to-"

His face vanishes from above my ring.

"-useful-?"
Let's hope that's just Bat-speak for 'Until everything is safely working without us' that does not sound good.

I could ring him back, but… It's not as if I can't work it out. Arresting a large number of elected officials will remind the rest who's really in charge. And revealing the existence of these worms will show everyone why we're the ultimate authority. Because… He's not wrong about the Federal Government getting in the way being a bad thing.
That's the insidious part of this. It all seems reasonable until you look back and wonder when you became Kings of the Earth...

That'll be his backup.

I lower my privacy screen construct as Scott Free and Big Barda walk in through a hole in the fabric of spacetime, while across the room, Roy nods at the face on his communicator and closes it down. "They're gunna need a little while to get enough people together, but they're calling in off-duty officers right now."
Let's hope they can be discreet about all this. Especially the cops called back on-duty on their days off...

"Good. Mister Miracle? Barda? Did Batman brief you?"

Barda scowls. "Batman has grown demanding."
That happens when he and Mister Atom are about the only things keeping things stable and directed at the top level.

Mister Free shrugs. "He's under a lot of pressure. What's-?" He spots the remains of the worm. "Ooh." He pulls out his multi-cube and scans it. "This isn't a magical avatar. This is a physical body."

Zatanna frowns at it. "Are you sure?"
So... Not summoned, but a fully physically manifested creature. That almost makes it worse.

"Pretty much. Since it's physically… You know, sundered, it would be radiating stored magic as it started decaying if it was made of magic."

"But… There's a binding…"
Hard to gainsay someone who's mystically tied to the Source of all things.

She shows him the drawer. He takes a look, and then shrugs. "I never learned… Whatever notation this is. Are you sure it's not doing something else?"

"I… Maybe? It's binding them to something."
Well, at least he doesn't know everything magical.

"Is it binding it to Senator Covington?"

"His blood would be enough to do that."
So, then... Where did it come from and how was it persuadign peopel to donate blood to it?

"I'm just wondering if this worm body was made from his tissue, and if the spirit of the worm is back in its host."

"Ahhhhh-. Nruter ot ruoy sniamer!"

The worm-ooze bubbles and undulates-. And then vaporises.
...And apparently it didn't like that.

"Zatanna?"

"Some sort of contingency spell. Ecart!"

A light appears for a moment over the Washington map, and then it splutters and catches fire! I extinguish it, and work out where that light appeared.
No juking this pursuit with simple tricks like that.

"That's… June Finch's office. She wasn't on the binding seal list."

Tony's eyes widen. "She's also the chair of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions."
'HELP'? Gee, governmental naming conventions...

"That's…" Convenient. Suspiciously convenient, but it would explain-. No, because-.

Mr. Free leans over Zatanna to look at the map. "Are we paying her a visit first?"

"We have to, right now, because that spell will almost certainly notified her. Mister Miracle?"
Clock's ticking. Good thing they have fast travel capabilities.

He waves the multi-cube over the map, returns it to his belt and then nods. "Mother Box?"

"Ping."

BOOM!
"Making the magic happen, baby." Not the quietest route, but efficient.

Heavy armour, construct armour, and walk-.

Barda shoves me aside and walks through first.
She's probably having a moment of 'How cute, trying to play the Tank.'

I recover and follow her through a moment later-.

Euww…
Oh god, how bad is it?

The Senator has… Uh, worms plural, moving in and out of her body, popping out of patches of exposed skin before sliding back in with only a brief bulge in the flesh to mark their passing. Her natural human eyes have been replaced by worm-eyes, and… My empathic vision isn't so much being blocked as glitching.
...Bad. Oh, that's got to be horrifying to look at.

"Senator… Are you in there?"

"Yes."

Her voice sounds… Pretty normal. Considering.
Gee, you think? I'm amazed she's even vocal.

"Are you in control, there?"

Zatanna steps through the portal and gasps, quietly.
Another thing for her therapist to deal with.

"I am more in control of my life now than I have been for years."

"Excuse my scepticism."
Now, is she the brains behind this, or merely a catspaw?

Mister Miracle comes through next, stares for a moment and then picks up his multi-cube.

"Could you please explain..? This?"
I bet even he and Mother Box are slightly disgusted by what they're seeing.

"This is me paying recompense for my sins. All of us paying recompense for all of our sins."

"And what sins would those be?"
I would assume... Anti-Life actions.

"What we did at Mannheim's command. And before that. I had such grand ideas before I was elected, and then I came here and I abandoned every single one in short order."

"Is that when you acquired the worms?"
So, deep regret. But she's still in office, so she has to appear normal part of the time, surely?

"One for every abandoned dream, and idea, and betrayal. These are my worms, Orange Lantern, and they are still with me."

"Zatanna?"
Good luck getting any useful advice, OL, this is too gross.

"I.. could… Probably get rid of them, but I don't know what that would do to her."

Darn it. "How are the worms supposed to absolve you?"
Take one guess, OL.

"I feed them the blood of a traitor. My blood. Once I've fed them enough, then they will leave."

"Okay, that's… Nice. But you'll be feeding them from a cell from now on."
Mostly to prevent them draining her dry, I suppose.

I can't imagine she's the only one acting as a source of these things, or that she's the sole responsible party. It's going to take some interrogation to determine how and why these things showed up, when, who and where they first made contact and what they're doing with the blood. It can't all be going to Uncle Sam, can it?
 
So Red Tornado's appearances in this fic have dropped over the years. The effects of the Sidhe invasion, Anti-Life, and society's downturn from his point of view weren't discussed. So far his comic counterpart's connection to magic hasn't come up in any of Dr Mist's scenes.

He hasn't been blasted to pieces in the whole story, as far as I can tell, which is a better fate than most DC comics. He turned down almost every chance to upgrade his abilities. His relationship with Alan is as weak as it was decades ago, but I think Alan is blameless there.

I don't think anyone from the original Team kept in contact with him or formed a notable bond, right? There hasn't been any indication that he has kept in contact with the Genomorphs since the legislation hearing/ceremony Luthor assisted with; he's probably blameless on that, communication barrier and all.

I don't THINK he has assisted any AI's reform efforts, like Paul did human criminals. He hasn't showed an interest in developing his soul, like Paul did with his tattoos. His technology was used for weather control testing, but I don't think he was present for any of the testing. He's obviously not assisting in Zeus's reeducation in weather, since Zeus was probably kidnapped while barred from Olympus. Red Tornado hasn't found a sidekick nor built a child.

I feel bad for him. Kaldur at least has some stuff going on, but the stoic robot... I dunno. It feels like any alternate universe version of him, meeting them, would be unsatisfying. His relationship with his siblings exists, but they haven't exactly leaned on his League resources or insights. The interesting members of his nemesis list are down to "Dr. Impossible," though I can't confirm that is canon for this series. Could have just been from Paul's memories.

I want to joke and say "he is lex luthor's favorite superhero," but it is just strange, the longer I think about it. I sort of hope he takes a break from work and goes to visit the Flash. Or I sort of hope Superwoman destroys him, as a sticking point in a series of anomalies related to her long term WTR plotline- "why do we care more about how bad she feels than fear/protectiveness for our League colleague?"

Dr Morrow isn't important enough for Paul to request Highfather cure him. Red Tornado would have read about that mission report of Paul's.
 

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