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Look Again (RWBY SI) (NO POWERS)

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I don't want this to sound discouraging, but while I would say that the current story format is working, it's also very awkward.

The school cast is effectively always stuck rehashing the previous chapter not quite beat for beat, but close enough to make me question why you separate the streams into their own chapters rather than just interspersing the stream with the classroom reactions like in a more-or-less standard reaction fic format.

And then there's the matter of the school cast often being overly praiseworthy of particular bits of phrasings that, ultimately, you wrote. I highly doubt you're deliberately having your characters sing your praises, but that was nonetheless a rather awkward recurring impression I remember having in at least two chapters.
 
Just binged it and this is real fun

I was hoping that when they chatted about the first humanity being gone, SI or someone else would make the theory that since dust interacts with Semblances in a way no other material does, it might be made from the conglomerized Souls of the erased first humanity.

The "angrier" and less angry Dust are coming from more "angry " people it was created from or something like that.

Anyways, anon is probably Salem


Thank you for the chapters!
 
Hey, if you're still in school somewhere, you should look into whether you can get some extra credit for this. You're covering some important but hard-to-teach-well stuff with great humor. I won't say it's the best MOOC I've ever engaged with, but it's certainly the most engaging.

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I said as much in the chat. I stand by it."
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Ha! He finally admits it!
Guess he gave up on denying it as too much effort.


EDIT: Oh, hypothesis I just thought of. Anon 1447 or whatever it is isn't Salem, but one of the Maidens.
 
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Chapter 17: Rockets Without Dust New
[CCT Network — Livestream: "OUTDOOR STREAM: rockets without Dust (please don't call the police again)" — 👁 22,817 viewers]


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(The camera shows an empty field outside Vale's city limits, late afternoon. A folding table, a portable blackboard covered in chalk, a small launch rail staked into the dirt, and a sealed metal cabinet with hazard tape wrapped around it. The SI steps into frame. He has no eyebrows.)

SI: Hi. Before anyone asks: yes, my eyebrows are gone. We'll get there.

So. Last week somebody in chat mentioned that the old space program got shut down because Dust stops working past the atmosphere. And I thought about that for about three days straight, and I kept coming back to one question.

If Dust doesn't work up there... why not use something else?

Everybody on Remnant thinks of energy as "which Dust do I use." But Dust isn't the only thing that burns. Fire existed before anybody mined a crystal. So I ordered a bunch of chemicals. Some of them got flagged. I had a very long conversation with a very polite officer who wanted to know why one person needed that particular list. I explained. She was... skeptical. I'm not in jail, so she eventually believed me.

And then one of the tests went off early, and that's where the eyebrows went. Lesson learned. Everything today is at distance.

I've got two setups. Let me walk you through the board.


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THE PROBLEM
To reach orbit, you need roughly ~9.4 km/s of total velocity change (orbital speed + losses to gravity and air).
Dust fails above the atmosphere, so you need something that carries its own oxidizer. No air in space to burn with.
THE ROCKET EQUATION
Δv = Isp × g₀ × ln(m_full / m_empty). Isp = "specific impulse": how efficient a fuel is. Higher = better.
SETUP 1 — "Hydrazine-injected" (liquid, hypergolic)
Fuel: hydrazine family. Oxidizer: dinitrogen tetroxide (N₂O₄), which carries its own "oxygen." Hypergolic = ignites on contact. No spark needed.
2 N₂H₄ + N₂O₄ → 3 N₂ + 4 H₂O (hot nitrogen + steam → thrust)
Isp ≈ ~300–340 s. Exhaust velocity ≈ 3.2 km/s. Mass ratio to orbit ≈ e^(9.4 / 3.24) ≈ ~18 : 1. Hard. But possible with stages.
SETUP 2 — Sugar motor (solid)
Oxidizer salt + sugar as the fuel, cast solid. Isp ≈ ~120–130 s. Exhaust velocity ≈ 1.3 km/s. Mass ratio to orbit ≈ ~1,600 : 1. Orbit? No. Proof of concept? YES.


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SI: So here's my thought process.

The whole point is that in space, there's no air. Normal fire needs oxygen from the air. Dust, as far as anyone can tell, needs something about the planet. So you need a fuel that brings its own oxygen with it. That's what an oxidizer is. A chemical stand-in for air.

Setup one is the serious one. Two liquids: a hydrazine-type fuel and dinitrogen tetroxide. The wild thing is they're hypergolic. You don't light them. The instant they touch, they react violently, turn into hot nitrogen gas and water vapor, and that expanding gas shoves out the back of the engine. No spark. No Dust. Works in a vacuum because both halves are in the tanks.

Efficiency-wise, it's good enough that with staging — dropping empty tanks as you climb — you could actually reach orbit. It's not theory. The math works.

Setup two is the fun one. Sugar. Literally sugar, plus an oxidizer salt, cast into a solid fuel. Way less efficient. You're never getting to orbit on sugar; look at that mass ratio. Sixteen hundred to one. But it proves the point: you can make a rocket fly with zero Dust.

SI: Now. The hazard cabinet is the hydrazine setup. And I'm going to be honest with you all: I am not firing it today.


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LIVE CHAT

grimm_bait_420: HIS EYEBROWS

HunterWannabe_Tom: bro looks like a boiled egg

ValeCommuter_22: it's a rocket

SI: @ValeCommuter_22 it IS a rocket, thank you

MistralMom_Jenna: Why aren't you firing it? Not that I WANT you to

SI: Because hydrazine is extremely poisonous. Like, "breathing it is bad for your whole life" poisonous. And N₂O₄ turns into a toxic brown gas. I did the reading after I bought it, which, yes, was backwards. Real engineers handle this stuff in full protective suits with ventilation and trained crews. I'm one guy in a field with no eyebrows.

AtlasTechStudent: THANK YOU. I was about to type a paragraph.

AtlasTechStudent: Seriously, everyone watching: do not buy hydrazine. It's toxic, it's a carcinogen, and hypergolic mixtures do not forgive mistakes.

SI: Agreed. It's getting handed over to someone qualified. The officer from earlier actually gave me a contact at a university lab.

VPD_Officer_Reyes: That would be me. Confirming. Sir, the lab pickup is Thursday. Please do not open that cabinet before then.

grimm_bait_420: THE COP IS IN THE CHAT

HunterWannabe_Tom: the cop is WATCHING

SI: Hi, Officer Reyes! Not opening it. Promise.

VPD_Officer_Reyes: I'm off duty. I'm just curious now. Launch the sugar one.

HistoryIsNotBoring_BO: I would like it on the record that I strongly disapprove of civilians ordering hazardous chemicals, and I am also extremely interested in the outcome.

GreatHunterPPort: LAUNCH IT, YOUNG MAN! In my youth I lit a firework in a Beowolf's mouth and I have NO regrets!

HistoryIsNotBoring_BO: Peter, you have many regrets. I have heard them all.


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(The SI walks to the launch rail. A slim cardboard-and-plastic rocket, about the length of his arm, sits on it. A long wire runs back to a switch box on the table, well over a hundred paces away. He jogs back to the table.)

SI: Okay. Launch safety. Everybody's behind me, nobody within range, wind is low, we're way outside the city, and I have a bucket of water and a fire blanket. Last time I skipped the distance part. You can see how that went.

SI: There's no Dust anywhere in that rocket. Not in the fuel, not in the igniter, nothing. It's sugar, an oxidizer, a cardboard tube, and a nozzle.

grimm_bait_420: COUNTDOWN COUNTDOWN COUNTDOWN

SI: Three.

SI: Two.

SI: One.

(He flips the switch.)

(A sharp hiss, a burst of thick white smoke, and the rocket leaps off the rail and screams upward, trailing a column of smoke into the orange evening sky, climbing and climbing until it's just a dot. A few seconds later, a tiny parachute pops open far overhead.)

(The SI stares upward, mouth open.)

SI: ...it worked. IT WORKED. NO DUST! NO DUST AT ALL!


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grimm_bait_420: HE DID IT

HunterWannabe_Tom: WHAT

MistralMom_Jenna: Oh my gods it went so HIGH

GreatHunterPPort: MAGNIFICENT! A TRIUMPH OF BRAVERY!

ValeCommuter_22: it's a rocket

SI: IT'S A ROCKET, VALE GUY!!

VacuoVeteran: I've seen Dust fireworks my whole life and that's somehow the most impressive thing I've ever watched

DustTrader_Mo: as a Dust trader I feel professionally threatened

AtlasTechStudent: Okay. I need to say something, and I want everyone to understand it's not a joke.

AtlasTechStudent: Chemical propulsion was studied, early on. It's in the old Atlas archives. It was dropped because Dust was cheaper, more powerful per kilo in the atmosphere, and way easier to handle. When the space program failed, everyone blamed Dust not working up there, and just... stopped. Nobody went back to the old research, because everyone had already decided rockets = Dust.

SI: Wait. So people knew?

AtlasTechStudent: People knew chemical rockets were possible. Nobody connected "Dust fails in space" with "use the thing that doesn't need Dust." Or if they did, it never got funding.

SI: That's the Semblance thing AGAIN. Everyone's so used to Dust that nobody thinks outside it.

HistoryIsNotBoring_BO: This is a genuinely fascinating historical point. A technology abandoned not because it failed, but because a more convenient one existed. And then forgotten when the convenient one hit a wall. This happens far more often than people realize.

VPD_Officer_Reyes: For the record, that was the coolest thing I've seen on a CCT stream. Also you're getting a noise complaint.

SI: Worth it.


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(The parachute drifts down. The SI jogs out to retrieve it and holds up the scorched but intact rocket to the camera, grinning.)

SI: Okay. Summary, and then I'm going home to cry about my eyebrows.

The question: If Dust doesn't work in space, why not use something else?

The answer: You can. You need a fuel that carries its own oxidizer, because there's no air up there.

Hydrazine-type engines: Efficient enough to reach orbit with staging. Hypergolic, no spark. Also horribly toxic. Professionals only. Mine's going to a lab on Thursday.

Sugar motors: Can't reach orbit, not even close. But they fly. With zero Dust. You just watched it.

The big one: Humanity didn't stop going to space because it was impossible. It stopped because everyone assumed Dust was the only way, and when Dust failed, nobody looked at the alternatives.

grimm_bait_420: we're going to space boys

HunterWannabe_Tom: stream guy space program when

AtlasTechStudent: Please do not start a space program in a field.

SI: No promises.

AtlasTechStudent: PLEASE.

anon_viewer_4471: Many have looked up at the sky and wanted to reach it. Few have asked what might be waiting there.

grimm_bait_420: ANON NO

HunterWannabe_Tom: anon we were having a GOOD time

FaunusRights_Now: anon is determined to make every stream a horror movie

SI: ...rocks, probably. Moon pieces. Very big rocks.

anon_viewer_4471: Probably. Congratulations on your launch.

SI: Uh. Thanks.

HistoryIsNotBoring_BO: An excellent demonstration. Sound reasoning. Genuinely responsible handling of the dangerous material, eventually. I cannot grade this, because I do not grade chemistry, and because I would have to deduct heavily for the eyebrows.

SI: Fair.

ValeCommuter_22: it's a rocket

SI: It's a rocket, Vale guy. And it went up. Goodnight, everyone.

[STREAM ENDED — Peak viewers: 31,406]
 
Chapter 18: Path Dependence New
Beacon Academy — Lecture Hall 3B, History of Remnant, 8:40 AM

Twenty minutes early. The hall was so packed that Oobleck had to step over two first-years sitting against the podium.

He set his thermos down, looked out at the crowd, and before he could say a single word, Nora shot to her feet.

"ROCKETS!"

The room cheered.

"Miss Valkyrie, sit down."

"But ROCKETS, Doctor!"

"I am aware of the rockets. The entire kingdom is aware of the rockets. Sit down."

She sat. She was still vibrating.


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"Before we begin," Oobleck said, "there is someone who would like a word."

The side door opened, and Glynda Goodwitch walked in.

The room went instantly silent. Twenty-some students who had been loudly discussing sugar a moment ago suddenly found their desks fascinating.

Glynda stood at the front, riding crop tucked under one arm, and surveyed them over her glasses.

"I am aware," she said crisply, "that many of you watched a livestream this week in which a civilian launched a homemade rocket. I am also aware that some of you," her gaze passed over Nora, over Yang, and lingered meaningfully on Team CRDL, "have been heard discussing ordering chemicals."

Cardin slid slightly lower in his seat.

"Let me be perfectly clear. The young man in that video lost his eyebrows. He was fortunate. Hydrazine is a poison. Oxidizers are dangerous. Improvised propellants have killed people who were far more careful than a student with a scroll and an idea." She paused. "Any student found attempting to replicate that stream on Beacon grounds, or anywhere else, will be dealt with by me personally. Is that understood?"

"Yes, Professor Goodwitch," the room chorused.

"Good." She turned to leave, then paused at the door. "For what it's worth, his reasoning was sound. His safety was not. Learn from the correct half." And she was gone.

The room let out a collective breath.

"She watched it," Yang whispered. "Goodwitch watched the stream."

"Everyone watched the stream," Oobleck said. "Thirty-one thousand people watched the stream. Now. Let us watch it again."


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When the SI stepped into frame with no eyebrows, the room collapsed.

"HIS EYEBROWS," Yang wheezed, gripping the desk.

"He looks like a boiled egg," Jaune gasped, quoting the chat.

"That's not funny," Weiss said. Then, a second later, with a strangled noise: "...It's a little funny."

When he explained that he'd nearly been arrested, Ren nodded slowly. "That seems appropriate."


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Then the camera zoomed into the blackboard, and the room changed.

Weiss leaned forward, eyes narrowing, pen already moving.

"The rocket equation," she murmured. "Delta-v equals specific impulse times gravitational acceleration times the natural log of the mass ratio." She scribbled. "Exhaust velocity of three point two... nine point four divided by three point two four... e to the two point nine..." She stopped. "Eighteen. He's right. Eighteen to one."

"Is that bad?" Ruby asked.

"It means for every eighteen kilos of rocket on the launch pad, only one kilo reaches orbit. The rest is fuel." Weiss looked up. "That's hard. But he's right that it's possible, if you drop empty stages as you go." She went back to scribbling. "And the sugar one... sixteen hundred to one. Completely impossible for orbit. He said so himself."

"You're checking his math again," Blake said.

"Someone has to," Weiss said, not looking up.


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When the SI explained why he wasn't firing the hydrazine setup, and that it was going to a university lab, Oobleck paused the video.

"Note this," he said. "A person who made a series of reckless decisions, then stopped, did the reading, recognized the danger, and handed the dangerous material to qualified professionals. On camera. With twenty thousand people urging him to press the button." He tapped the screen. "That is harder than launching a rocket. Most people cannot admit a mistake with an audience watching. Remember that."

"And Officer Reyes!" Nora added.

"And Officer Reyes, yes," Oobleck said, resuming play. "Who I suspect has become a fan."


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The countdown.

The room went silent. Even students who had already seen it leaned forward.

Three. Two. One.

The rocket leapt off the rail and screamed into the evening sky.

The lecture hall erupted as if it were the first time. Ruby was on her feet. Nora was standing on her chair. Jaune was clapping. Even Weiss, still clutching her pen, let out a small, involuntary "oh."

"NO DUST," Ruby shouted. "It went up with NO DUST!"

"I know," Weiss said, a little dazed. "I know. I did the math. But seeing it..."

"Ruby, you're standing on the desk," Yang said.

"I'm aware!"


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When the Atlas student explained that chemical propulsion had been studied early, then abandoned because Dust was cheaper, and then forgotten when the space program failed, Oobleck paused the video one final time and turned to face the room.

"This," he said, "is the most important part of the entire stream. Far more important than the rocket."

The room quieted.

"A technology abandoned not because it failed," Oobleck said, "but because something more convenient existed. And then, when the convenient thing hit a wall, no one went back to the older path. Because by then, no one remembered it was a path." He zipped to the board and wrote a phrase in large letters.

PATH DEPENDENCE.

"Historians call this path dependence. Once a society commits to one way of doing something, every later decision is shaped by that commitment. The alternatives don't vanish. They simply stop being seen." He tapped the board. "Remnant built everything around Dust. Weapons, lighting, transportation, industry, the space program. When Dust stopped working in space, the entire kingdom concluded that space was impossible. Not that Dust was the limitation."

"The Semblance thing," Jaune said. "Again."

"The Semblance thing again, Mister Arc. The streamer keeps finding the same pattern, in a different place, every single week. Familiarity blinds. It is the single most common failure in human reasoning."


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"Discuss," Oobleck said.

Weiss raised her hand, slower than usual.

"Miss Schnee."

She hesitated, looking down at her calculations.

"My family's company," she said carefully, "is built on the idea that Dust is essential. For everything. The whole kingdom runs on it. And I've always believed that." She paused. "I still mostly believe that. But I didn't know chemical rockets were studied and dropped. I didn't know Atlas had archives on it. And I've grown up surrounded by Atlas scientists." She looked up. "Why didn't anyone ever mention it?"

"Why do you think, Miss Schnee?"

Weiss was quiet for a long moment.

"Because nobody made money from it," she said finally. "And because everyone had already decided Dust was the answer." Her jaw tightened slightly. "That's uncomfortable."

"Most important thoughts are," Oobleck said gently.

Blake glanced at Weiss. Weiss didn't look back, but she didn't look away from her notes, either.


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"I want to talk about the officer," Ruby said. "Officer Reyes. She stopped him from being arrested, then gave him a lab contact so the dangerous stuff went somewhere safe, then stayed and watched." Ruby grinned. "That's so cool. That's what the police should be like."

"A good point, Miss Rose," Oobleck said. "Authority that redirects rather than simply punishes. Rarer than it ought to be."

"I want to talk about the ROCKET," Nora said.

"We have talked about the rocket, Miss Valkyrie."

"I want to talk about it MORE."

"You may talk about it more after class. Quietly. Away from any chemical supplier."

Ren patted her arm. "I'll make sure."


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Blake raised her hand. The room collectively sighed, because everyone knew what was coming.

"Miss Belladonna. Anon."

"Anon," Blake agreed. "'Many have looked up at the sky and wanted to reach it. Few have asked what might be waiting there.'" She shook her head. "It keeps getting more specific. First it was 'where did you grow up.' Then 'lost knowledge.' Then 'least safely out loud.' Then 'something's been watching.' And now 'what's waiting up there.'"

"The streamer said rocks," Yang said. "Moon rocks."

"And anon said 'probably,'" Blake said. "Not 'yes.' Probably."

"You're reading a lot into one word," Cardin said, surprisingly.

"Maybe," Blake said. "But I don't think anon uses words carelessly."

The room was quiet.

"I will say again what I have said before," Oobleck said. "A pattern in a stranger's messages is not evidence of anything sinister. But—" He paused. "You are right that this individual chooses words with unusual care. Keep noticing. Keep not concluding."

Pyrrha, near the front, said nothing. But she had written the anon's line down in the margin of her notebook, and she was looking at it.


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"No assignment," Oobleck announced. "Instead, a question. The same pattern the streamer found, but you must find it yourselves."

He wrote on the board, beneath PATH DEPENDENCE:

Find another technology Remnant abandoned because Dust was easier.

"It does not have to be rockets. It can be anything. Lighting. Heating. Medicine. Weapons. Transport. Find something that existed before Dust dominated, or alongside it, that was dropped not because it failed but because Dust was more convenient." He capped the chalk. "Bring it next week. And under no circumstances," he added, glancing at Team CRDL, "should your research involve building anything."

"Wasn't gonna," Cardin said.

"You absolutely were."


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The students poured out of the hall, noisier than they'd been in weeks.

"I'm doing weapons," Ruby announced. "There's gotta be old non-Dust guns. Mechanical stuff. Springs, compressed air..."

"Of course you're doing weapons," Yang said.

"I'm doing lighting," Weiss said. "There were oil lamps before Dust lamps. And gas lighting. I want to know why they disappeared." She hesitated. "And whether my family had anything to do with it."

Blake looked at her, a little surprised. Weiss kept walking.

"I'm doing ROCKETS," Nora said.

"Nora, he already did rockets," Ren said.

"I'm doing them AGAIN. In HISTORY."

"...That's actually allowed," Ren admitted.


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When the hall was empty, Oobleck opened the locked drawer and took out his notebook.

He turned to the page where he kept the list and added two new lines beneath the last entry.

Space program abandoned when Dust failed. Chemical alternatives existed, known, forgotten.

anon: "Few have asked what might be waiting there."

He looked at the list for a long while. It was getting longer.

Then, almost without deciding to, he flipped to a fresh page, and at the top he wrote a single question, one he had never written down before in all his years of teaching.

What else have we stopped looking at?

He sat with it for a moment, the empty hall silent around him. Then he closed the notebook, locked it away, and went to find Peter, who he suspected had already ordered a rocket kit.
 
If anything I would not be surprised if his streams reignited previously abandoned avenues of research, I mean sure Dust is currently the most commonly used resource for a lot of things (e.g: Power Grids, Fuel, Coolants, Explosives/Ammunitions and Weapons/Equipment.) but considering places like Menagerie and Vacuo, not to mention the hundreds if not thousands of Settlements that span the more wilderness areas of Remnant, imagine how much the quality of life would improve if people developed Solar Powered Technology and Biodegradable Materials or Biofuels?

Although considering a certain white haired Jackass, I wouldn't be surprised if various Dust Corps tried to pushback against such research if not outright attempted to blackmail the Kingdom's by withholding Dust Supplies or use Sabotage, all just to protect their Monopolies and investments.

Edit: Then again if Jackass so much as even tried to threaten Atlas with such a possibility he'd likely be given a shallow grave before the evening was out…
 
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If anything I would not be surprised if his streams reignited previously abandoned avenues of research, I mean sure Dust is currently the most commonly used resource for a lot of things (e.g: Power Grids, Fuel, Coolants, Explosives/Ammunitions and Weapons/Equipment.) but considering places like Menagerie and Vacuo, not to mention the hundreds if not thousands of Settlements that span the more wilderness areas of Remnant, imagine how much the quality of life would improve if people developed Solar Powered Technology and Biodegradable Materials or Biofuels?

Although considering a certain white haired Jackass, I wouldn't be surprised if various Dust Corps tried to pushback against such research if not outright attempted to blackmail the Kingdom's by withholding Dust Supplies or use Sabotage, all just to protect their Monopolies and investments.
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Or he buys it all and expands on the monopoly.
 
Moon_Shroom said:
If anything I would not be surprised if his streams reignited previously abandoned avenues of research, I mean sure Dust is currently the most commonly used resource for a lot of things (e.g: Power Grids, Fuel, Coolants, Explosives/Ammunitions and Weapons/Equipment.) but considering places like Menagerie and Vacuo, not to mention the hundreds if not thousands of Settlements that span the more wilderness areas of Remnant, imagine how much the quality of life would improve if people developed Solar Powered Technology and Biodegradable Materials or Biofuels?

Although considering a certain white haired Jackass, I wouldn't be surprised if various Dust Corps tried to pushback against such research if not outright attempted to blackmail the Kingdom's by withholding Dust Supplies or use Sabotage, all just to protect their Monopolies and investments.
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They are poor kingdoms,they don't have the money to make reasearch to create new technology,the best would be take old stuff that probably cost less but still probably would be less efficient,see Weiss talking about Oil lamps
 
I think you also have to remember that Vale is currently in a severe dust shortage so market prices are through the roof. The "dust is more convenient" or economical argument only holds true if your supply line of dust is reliable. It isn't due to Grimm, the White Fang, and Salem's goons. Probably more expensive and unreliable the further out you go too.

There's also another issue. The kingdoms are currently heavily reliant on Atlas for dust. General Ironwood's enbargo had a severe negative impact on the other kingdoms because of their dependence on imports and lack of energy diversification.
 
I wonder if perhaps the high atmosphere balloon experiment could be done? Though retrieval of the camera or recording equipment may be much more difficult in Remnent then on Earth, due to a majority of land being actively hostile and hazardous.
 
DuckaBoo385 said:
I wonder if perhaps the high atmosphere balloon experiment could be done? Though retrieval of the camera or recording equipment may be much more difficult in Remnent then on Earth, due to a majority of land being actively hostile and hazardous.
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Not to mention the possibility of the experiment being interfered with by High Altitude flying Grimm (if they are even a thing, considering that the only flying Grimm we know are Nevermores, the Winged horse Grimm where one ate Torchwick and that Flying Whale Grimm behemoth or whatever. Granted they never really showed how high those things could reach).
 
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him was saying experiment can be messed up by Grimm...
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Yes? I was talking about theoretical extreme high altitude grimm either don't exist or are rare enough to be a non factor. Given that grimm focus on humanity it makes sense that there aren't any or at least not that many above the clouds.
 
Just binged from start to chapter 18, so will probably repeat someone or other.

Grimm flakes; Nora's jar came pretty close, but has anyone tried capturing a grimm and killing it in a sealed container. No path from the inside to the outside. Measurements of weight, mass, air density and composition, etc.

Dust stops working at some point on the way up; Testing dust in a vacuum chamber, to test if air composition (or pressure) has an effect. On the other end, send a sealed container with dust and testing mechanisms up on a balloon, to test the distance theory.

Love the story so far, including how 'anon' is a master class troll. I would suggest updating the synopsis about this being a SI who does streams talking about stuff that everyone just does not see, causing everyone to Look Again.
 
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