With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Thank you, corrected.

No, 'of' is correct. They're members of the Jovial Marauders, they're not reminding the Jovial Marauders who they're members of.

Thank you, corrected.

 

Possible death or slavery versus guaranteed death. Given what just happened, them trying to flee makes perfect sense.

 

Doesn't really matter... the effect is the same in the end.

 

That's what she said!
No, no that's a terrible joke. Let me try again.

Sadly, English grammar is a bit more picky than the spider queen...
No, too lowbrow.

It's like linguistic hokey pokey!
No, that sucks too.

Fuck it.

 

I guess some of them thought he wouldn't agree with killing the Psions. He's actually miffed about how they did it. Hopefully this will cause them to let him know the next time they do something this massive and important so that he could help and offer his advice.

Komand'r is probably happy that someone she respects agrees with this while Blake might be thinking that more lives could have been saved if they let Paul in the loop earlier. Hope the Guardians don't blame Paul for this mess and only lay it on the Crown Imperium.

 

All of them save a handful... Did you miss the update?

The fleet killed everyone.

 

Messy...

If you've got Time Scoop tech this seems a good situation to consider using it... Any slip-ups will be neatly hidden in the magma... Just need replacement biomass for any slaves 'saved', and plenty of data storage for all the info acquired. Or, if you (just) want to be humanitarian, just use the scoop process to acquire the souls of the slaves as they die, so they can be relocated to somewhere without psions.

 

Kori and Koma were there. Komand'r hung on the command bridge while Koriand'r was getting shot at by friendly fire. Not cool.

 

Maaan. This is...suboptimal.

I fully expect Paul to punish Kori and Komand’r for this. Maybe even take away their rings for a time.

I get that the Psions were 95% dickbags that no one is going to miss...but Lanterns under Paul’s nominal command just aided in the commitment of total genocide, and couldn’t be bothered to give him so much as a phone call.

Genocide is the kind of thing you pass up the chain of command.

Edit: Also, while I might be getting those numbers wrong, there were a considerable amount of children who could have yet been raised to not be evil little alien Mengeles. But instead of taking any amount of care of planning, they went straight for the brutish planet-melting option. Yeah, fuck everyone involved in making this decision.

 

So the culprits were... everyone and their dog! I must admit, I wasn't expecting for Adam Blake (and Komand'r as well, I guess) to be so proactive; I mean, wanting to destroy the Psions and the Citadel's allies, of course, but managing to get almost everyone together playing ball to attack the Psions?

I assumed Blake would be recuperating first, trying to catch up second and then being a space hero for Tamaran and some other people. Building a grand alliance to destroy the Psions and the Gordanians (because I think that operation should be part of all of this as well), never crossed my mind that he would think of that.

I do feel sorry for the collateral damage victims, plus the information lost, and I get why the Illustres is (and I myself would be) pissed, but at the same time... he did stop paying any kind of attention to the Vega Systems, no "report to me anything significant" to Kom and Kori, no "I should check, even from afar, the Psions and Gordanians", no "here's a special communicator, Amalak, Jarko, Queen, if you would like my opinion or to say something", nothing at all. No wonder he got all blindsided by this.

 

Perhaps, but can’t really say it’s not in-character, even with SI-based character development.

I’d just like to echo several posters’ disbelief about no one getting in contact with Paragon about this, Koriand’r being the most egregious (and the princesses should also be reporting to Vril Dox ll); plus his inability to sense this happening sooner- the Vega forces conceivably know about his empathy and could block it with Kallista’s magic but I’d assume that would be apparent. I’m also confused as to what was going on with all the fires in Emana if an inter-planetary peace had been reached (unless individual planets’ sovereignty is always upheld and no one else intervenes)- how much of everything this episode was a sham, and how were they pulling it off? Any decently intelligent plan would have involved postponing the attack till Paragon left again- though misleading the man who saved half of you from death or worse and who almost single-handedly destroyed the Citadel (and this before he has a Lantern Corps) doesn’t suggest much intelligence or integrity- I’m more irritated by the lack of the former than the latter though, since this course of action is quite plausible in a situation like Vega (perhaps Paragon should have revisited Vega sooner instead of hanging around commissioning an Earth video game about it).


I’d also expect the Psions to have some last-ditch attempt to contact the Green Lantern Corps, or some last-resort mad scientist WMD that would make attacking them like this a really bad idea- I believe they were involved in trapping Adam Blake in the first place so I’d imagine they should be able to counter him (which may conceivably still happen, since the elite and thus maddest-scientist Psions are still alive for now). Though the lack of such options in Renegade’s final attack on the Wombworld means they don’t have such things for some reason. I believe most slaves and civilians also died in Renegade’s attack on the Wombworld, since I can’t recall any mention of rescue operations, so the material situations seem roughly similar- it’s the lack of intention, knowledge and possibly competence that separates the Paragon from the Renegade in this instance (It's similar to my earlier observations about Paragon having a wider scope of more diffuse positive effect than Renegade’s area-focused intense impact, likely due to the former’s enlightenment and the latter’s lack of such enlightenment coupled with his metaphysical nature as a god of conquest).


I’m fine with the general thrust of this storyline- horrible, wasteful things can and do happen in a power vacuum to ex-oppressors, and bystander/civilian casualties will generally still happen or even increase. Paragon’s actions in Vega mirror those of the DCAU Justice League in the Crime Syndicate (the episode demonstrating the poor aftermath happened soon before this, so that’s good narrative set-up) and his own League- righteous face-punching of the bad guys and not really dealing with the fallout. Though I’m more lenient on him since he did leave apparently loyal and moral (at least with Koriand’r) subordinate Lanterns in the area (which also makes me wonder if King My’andr or the Blades of Alstair knew about this). I anticipate an expulsion of them from the Corps (his smiles and positive treatment of Koriand’r’s small-scale actions- which apparently would have been suicidal without Paragon’s intervention- would make a punishment for their large-scale actions have more emotional impact).

I just have logical issues about how this plan continued unchanged when Paragon was in the system, and as mentioned the lack of contacting him in prior months from anybody.

 

Incoming Green Lantern task force - possibly even a Guardian - in 3, 2, 1...

 

Blackfire was on one of the ships that was firing at her sister as she attempted rescue efforts?
I know Starfire can be a bit dumb, and I can see her trying to mount a last minute rescue and maybe getting herself killed, but Blackfire seems remarkably unconcerned.

Given her canon characterisation, i hope Paul takes a good long look at her desires, to see if 'murder my sister' is anywhere on the list.
It wouldn't suprise me at all if she was the one who suggested not telling Paul, and then that starfire fly into the line of fire.

 

They still have the technology, but it only became practical to deploy it during the attack on Citadel Complex as the Tamaranian fleet withdrew. Now that he knows about it using it is much harder.

Psion civilians, yes. Slaves, no. Not only did he make a point of rescuing at least one detention centre's worth himself, but he deployed hundreds of Lanterns whose duties included freeing the psions' victims.

 

What I was thinking was how many were knowing shots directly at area’s they knew contained captives, and how many were just within splash radius of other targets- it’s mostly a semantic question, but it does help build a picture of what the commanders/gunners were thinking/planning

 

Is like DC got turned into Worm.

 

unlikely, Mr Zoat usually has at least a half dozen chapters ready to go as buffer. This chapter had probably been ready to go for a week or more.

If we can recall that a character exists, Zoat certainly can and plan for them.

 

Eh... While I've got quite a few chapters stored up... When I get a bit stuck for what to do next, I write something for the 1st of April episode. And I wrote three parts that ended up not fitting in and so will be the start of the episode after next. My actual now-buffer isn't all that long.

 

By leaving for 4+ months and not even bothering to follow up once via coms Paul, an outsider to begin with, effectively removed himself from the chain of consideration and command.

 

Except the sisters are literally in his chain of command as long as they have rings, and genocide should be something you should mention to your boss beforehand

 

Sort of. The Green Lantern Corps has a very loose chain of command. Lanterns are expected to deal with things in their Sector without referring it upwards all that much. The Orange Lanterns on Maltus don't work like that, but there isn't an established tradition for the ones the SI recruits.

 

I assume OL is gonna make rules in the corps. Especially rules that go "CONSULT HIGHEST COMMAND IF GENOCIDE BIENG PLANNED OR UNDERWAY"

 

Ah yes. the space police have come to check the disturbance. The open market is going to re-learn that it lives by the sufferance of the green men upstairs.

Incoming back hand of Justice!

 

I can get OL being irritated from the simple fact that they planned this whole operation to intentionally exclude him rather than just a consequence of it being so small potatoes it got overlooked. There should be some form of consequence atleast for the two sisters cause while he may allow his Lanterns freedom to focus on what they truly want I think its common sense that glassing a planet with the aid of a fleet and TK FTL is a detail upper management needs to know. The GLC coming to Vega territory seems like a nice logical consequence that an ambitious admiral probable did not consider.

 

Wrong sister.

 

Is he talking to Kori'ander, or Korm'andr?

 

I doubt anyone will care to call it anything, now it's a burnt cinder.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

That's about the best you could expect, after all this...

Should that 'least' have a capital?

Yeah, not in the mood.

...Seriously, a planet actually had that happen? <facepalm> This is why you code limits on programmed routines.

Single-Hat races. yay, DC.

Well, Vega's getting cleaned up one way or the other now.

Given they could still easily be prosecuted by the Guardians for Genocide...

Man, this is the kind of things that get religions started...

Yeah, she could sense his last nerve vibrating like a violin string...

Searching large groups for what, determination? Resolve?

At least on Earth, things make sense.

And vice-versa, if necessary... I don't doubt a few Gordanians are chafing at the situation.

...Gee, you think?

Ah, Kory... Full of the positive Lights...

Selflessness amidst avarice. An unusual concept.

So much for a minute or two?

So many colored quotes... I bet writing chapters with Guy and OL can get annoying, eh? Even if you have a macro for the quotes...

 

I guess you could make this past tense? *was evil, but it was
Don't really see anything else wrong.

Well Paul sure is feeling down about the whole thing. And it looks like the episode isn't over quite yet, my bad.

 

I understood that reference.