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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Well, Paul does have a a Demon Lord, a fungoid elemental, and a New Ascendant construct lanterns. That should help against the Citizenry, right?

At least two of those three should... probably...
 
"Your people project their souls outwards, through objects made with New God technology. Orange powers rings
'power rings'

Or his being here may result it Athyns seeming… Lesser."
'in'

Doning the Seeds once more, perhaps?"
This could be a specific term, or perhaps you meant 'donning'.


Well, Paul does have a a Demon Lord, a fungoid elemental, and a New Ascendant construct lanterns. That should help against the Citizenry, right?
Right, he lost the Hellwraith, didn't he?
 
Even with the advantage of Boom Tubes, it's never a tactically smart move to drop right on top of an unknown location.
Enh, sort of depends on the drop. 'Scry and die' is a trope for a reason. That said, it helps if, unlike Boom Tubes, your teleport method is one way so it doesn't expose your staging area to counterattack as readily. And for varying definitions of 'unknown location'.
 
I hope Paul bluntly tells Diana about her aunt after all of this is over. Then he can reveal to Hippolyta what happened to her little sister and the monster she's become.
 
Orange powers rings can consume souls and turn them into constructs.
'power'
"That's terrifying. To deny-. Deny a soul the peace of the grave…"
To be fair, don't souls normally stick around as miserable ghosts unless they die in a thaumosphere or get captured by something like those shrines Paragon built? Not very peaceful, although I suppose as demigods it's pretty likely that Ascendants are an exception.
It does just work best when an Ascendant controls it, it also works better when there is an ultimate authority whose power flows through our civilisation.
'doesn't'?
Doning the Seeds once more, perhaps?
He's giving blood to the Seeds? Or is it meant to be 'donning'? I still don't know what it means in that case.
Well, Paul does have a a Demon Lord, a fungoid elemental, and a New Ascendant construct lanterns. That should help against the Citizenry, right?
I think he still has Nabu-666 somewhere, right? Or did something happen to him that I don't remember?
 
No, wait, that's… That's the Citizenry's mothership. Upgraded with New God technology. Mass-murdering misandrist cannibals.

I guess Grayven was too busy to come himself

Or he didn't want to risk getting Assimilated.

I hope Paul bluntly tells Diana about her aunt after all of this is over. Then he can reveal to Hippolyta what happened to her little sister and the monster she's become.

That may not be the best thing to do when Earth still has Anti-Life.

I imagine the shock and horror vould undermine their resistance.
 
Considering Kevin MacTaggert had it better in the X-Men Animated Series, I wonder if the same could be said of David Haller, aka "Legion", son of Charles Xavier, if he exists.

I honestly wonder what Paul would suggest to help the lad with his Mind Hive issues. Get Doctor Strange involved and induce a Trance Healing, Internal Alchemy process?
 
In part, it comes down to the amount of mystical power at their command, really

Though it may also be connected to how they're structured, so it wouldn't be just power, but how it looks.

Plus, there may be a mental component involved.

If I remember correctly, I think it was mentioned that some of the member from the Renegade Team weren't as strong as others because they didn't embrace the fact that they're gods but just thought they were more powerful.

The question is, how well will his metaphysique fit in with theirs? It seems to work well enough with the New Ascendants he commands, but there might have been some rough edges to smooth out...

That does bring up the question of how New Gods differ from other demigods.

We know New Gods draw their power from the Source, but what about others?

Zoat, where do demigods that aren't New Gods draw power from?

The Dream, or does their Old God parentage allow them to connect to the Source?

Now, who's in charge, though? Astarte? Or her much more aggressive daughter?

Didn't think of that, but she did seem eager to kill her mommy.
 
That may not be the best thing to do when Earth still has Anti-Life.

I imagine the shock and horror vould undermine their resistance.
I know that. I was thinking after the Anti-Life disaster is over, just because Paul thinks they deserve to know after he's fought them personally.
 
That does bring up the question of how New Gods differ from other demigods.

We know New Gods draw their power from the Source, but what about others?

Zoat, where do demigods that aren't New Gods draw power from?

The Dream, or does their Old God parentage allow them to connect to the Source?
'Draw' is probably the wrong term. They exist differently within the material universe.
 
Do Boom Tubes make a sound that propagates in a vacuum? Or is his ring transmitting booms as part of "inform Paul" operating procedures?
You know I wouldn't be surprised if you can hear the boom in space because New God Tech is just that bullshit.

How the hell can I even hear that in space sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.

"My ring is allowing us to hear the boom tubes."

And here I thought it was using the same mechanism that Batman uses to breath in space.

"Batman can't breath in space."

Supes and Diana claim he does and she was holding her lasso of truth when she repeated that claim.

"How would he even be able to do that?"

He's Batman.

"What?"
 
um i thought all us government was hostile to mutants. what army base is this? i didnt know the us gov was training mutants....

X-Factor is a team funded by the US military because superpowers are usually a massive force multiplier. The 90's show was also written better than most comics interested in taking a slightly more... nuanced, let's call it, take on how people with an active X-Gene would interact with a, still largely Marvel-like, society.

Which is to say that, as with all things large and small, The United States Of America's Armed Forces tried to see if they could make it kill someone. Been a hot minute since I watched the show though, so I have no idea if it went better than the Nerf football plan did.
 
people's

Do Boom Tubes make a sound that propagates in a vacuum? Or is his ring transmitting booms as part of "inform Paul" operating procedures?
How the hell can I even hear that in space sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.
I had assumed that the boom was the result of the spatial distortion inducing a shockwave in nearby matter.
 
Fleet Traction (part 21)
1st January 2013
21:59 GMT


"That doesn't match the description of Grayven's ship-."

"No, that's one of his allies. They call themselves the Citizenry. Sending file now."

"I have it-. Grandmother!"

"Yes. I suggest a dispersed formation. In the event of an attack, I'll try and intercept the 'providers' at the source, but if they head for the planet you're going to need all the point defences you can get."

"Why would Grayven send… Her?"

"My guess would be 'pressure'. He wants compliance but can't come himself. Therefore, he sends his most godly subordinate."

"Then he has no intention of allying with us honourably."

"Probably not. But on the plus side, we only need to keep her busy until-"

"Uh."

"-Athyns completes his ritual."

"She is attempting to communicate with me. Their… Leader, Astarte."

"My records don't suggest that she has any sort of speech impediment. She's usually quite good at announcing her-."

"Her speech is clear. But from the sound of it, she is unused to speaking to people who aren't her subjects. Or chattels."

"Oh, it gets better. They give sufficiently bloodthirsty women the chance to become citizens. If men they capture are lucky then they might get raped before they're eaten. They really are the worst of the worst, and I speak with some expertise on the subject."

"Why has-? She's confirming what you just said. I didn't ask her, she's… Volunteering the information."

"At least she's honest. 'Why has' what?"

"Why has no one hunted them down and exterminated them?"

"Ah, that's a simple one. There isn't any sort of universal army of righteousness that might be inclined to take that job on. Generally, they pick fights with polities they can beat, and don't leave any survivors. At this point that includes all but the strongest stellar nations. Any allies their target might have are cowed into neutrality, and no one who could is prepared to send the sort of military force that would be required outside of their own territory."

"What about the Green Lantern Corps?"

"Don't have the numbers or the doctrine. They're police. Law enforcers. Not executioners. They're the sort of thing I'd like the Orange Lantern Corps to deal with once the war with the Reach is finished."

"She is demanding that Athyns come and pay obeisance."

And he can't even speak to her without disrupting the ritual. And alright, she probably doesn't know what Athyns looks like so we could send someone else…

"Okay. How can I help?"

"I… Was hoping that you would take the lead."

"I'm not a member of your society and you aren't allied to N.E.M.O.. I'm happy to advise you, but it's not really my place to take the lead."

"I fear we need you to."

"Alright. Illustres to Citizenry. May I ask what you're doing-?"

"Are these 'gods' so craven that they cannot answer a simple message?"

Not Themysciran Greek. I've never heard Astarte's voice, but that's not how I thought she'd sound. Could be a subordinate, of course. I'm not a New God or a woman, so she may see no reason to speak with me.

"What do you think I'm doing? Athyns is a busy man. You can't just turn up and expect him to drop everything to tend to you. Am I speaking with Astarte?"

"She would not deign to speak with you."

"Then imagine how Athyns feels about the idea of talking to her. Why are you here?"

"We are here to see if there is anything of this world worth preserving, or if it will all be fed to the providers. The captain had great hopes for Sparta. I assume that she is dead."

"No, she's being held in a secure hospital. It turns out that constantly lying to your subordinates doesn't exactly endear you to them."

"That is disappointing. Citizens have no need for deceit."

"That's a shame. At least people who are being lied to can claim that they didn't know what was happening, whereas you Citizens all know that you're uncultured raiders who subsist on murder and cannibalism. You have no excuse for your inadequacy."

"I will take pleasure in-"

"Not available."

"-gelding you before killing you."

"I'd threaten your ovaries, but you're not worth the time it would take. What does a man have to do to get challenged to single combat around here?"

"Be a woman."

Ah, now isn't the time for a discussion on the discontinuation of the word 'wereman' in Modern English.

"Fine, that'll take me a few seconds. Anything else?"

"What?"

"I can change my body's structure. I've never used it to become a woman, but if that's one of your requirements I think I'll survive. Is there anything else?"

"As a.. woman, you could challenge a citizen for their place."

She doesn't sound certain. I shake my head inside my helmet. She just stated the official default position of the Citizenry, rather than focus on the mission Grayven's set of them. Astarte's an authority-hog, isn't she?

"In case my scathing contempt wasn't obvious, I wouldn't lower myself to join you. I just want you to leave this system and never come back."

"That is not up for negotiation."

"Says you. All I have to do is challenge everyone on your ship to single combat and beat them."

"We won't stop our mission to entertain you, caitiff."

"I speak for Minosyss in Athyns' absence because I have proven my capability as a warrior. Which you would know if Grayven mentioned the fact that I stopped his ship single-handedly during the one confrontation between N.E.M.O. and… Whatever you're calling yourselves. You might well be able to bypass me, but no one here would have any respect for you if you did. Astarte-."

Ugh. I… Do have a design for this. Alright, best fit. Widen hips, narrow shoulders, restructure face… And the rest. It's more weird than uncomfortable, though I'm going to need to rely on my armour's motion AI until I adapt.

"Astarte, I'm a citizen of Themyscira. I serve Queen Hippolyta, and was apprenticed to her daughter, Princess Diana. So I speak with some authority when I say that they would be horrified and disgusted by how far you've fallen and that I'm confident that there's a special place in Tartarus reserved for you."

"Fight me."
 
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"I speak for Minosyss in Athyns' absence because I have proven my capability as a warrior. Which you would know if Grayven mentioned the fact that I stopped his ship single-handedly during the one confrontation between N.E.M.O. and… Whatever you're calling yourselves. You might well be able to bypass me, but no one here would have any respect for you if you did. Astarte-."

Ugh. I… Do have a design for this. Alright, best fit. Widen hips, narrow shoulders, restructure face… And the rest. It's more weird than uncomfortable, though I'm going to need to rely on my armour's motion AI until I adapt.

"Astarte, I'm a citizen of Themyscira. I serve Queen Hippolyta, and was apprenticed to her daughter, Princess Diana. So I speak with some authority when I say that they would be horrified and disgusted by how far you've fallen and that I'm confident that there's a special place in Tartarus reserved for you."

"Fight me."
Okay, this is still a good challenge even if he's gender flipping in the middle of it. Though I hope he won't lose access to his ring or the orange light completely in this fight.
 
She confirming what you just said. I didn't ask her, she's…
'She's'
There's isn't any sort of universal army of righteousness that might be inclined to take that job on.
'There'
Any allies their target might have are cowed into neutrality, and no one who could is prepared to send that sort of military force that would be required outside of their own territory.
'the sort of'
whereas you Citizens all know that you're uncultured raiders who subsist on murder and cannibalism.
Other times that citizens are mentioned in this chapter it isn't capitalised (except at the start of sentences). Not sure if this should be uncapitalised or others should be capitalised, or if there's different context that justifies this.
 
If men the capture are lucky
they

Well. This is a somewhat odd turn, but the New Gods are pretty much universally nuts among the Apocalypse side. Not that the New Genesis side is a bastion of sanity either.

Also, wow, if you hadn't of been kicked off SV before...
 
the -> they
hunter -> hunted
want to -> want you to
"My guess would be 'pressure'.
'She's'
'There'
'the sort of'
Thank you, corrected.
Other times that citizens are mentioned in this chapter it isn't capitalised (except at the start of sentences). Not sure if this should be uncapitalised or others should be capitalised, or if there's different context that justifies this.
Citizen can be a title (a member of the Citizenry) and a regular description (a citizen of the Citizenry).
Also, wow, if you hadn't of been kicked off SV before...
*Main character changes sex and no one treats it as a big deal.*

SV: And I objected to that.
 
Ugh. I… Do have a design for this. Alright, best fit. Widen hips, narrow shoulders, restructure face… And the rest. It's more weird than uncomfortable, though I'm going to need to rely on my armour's motion AI until I adapt.
Bah da! Bah da! Dude looks like a lady!
 

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